VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.215f] [Lust & Passion]

[Kale2222]

I think a lot of people don't want L&P to make over 1000 renders per half day, not just me.

Don't get me wrong, I love this game and these characters and think that the slowburn progression and the relationship building is great, but it's just too much of a slowburn with lots of superflous moments, dialogue and characters, and I guarantee that L&P could easily achieve the same results with half the renders of each event and limiting themselves to at least 1000 renders per playable day.
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I think a lot of people don't want L&P to make over 1000 renders per half day, not just me.

Don't get me wrong, I love this game and these characters and think that the slowburn progression and the relationship building is great, but it's just too much of a slowburn with lots of superflous moments, dialogue and characters, and I guarantee that L&P could easily achieve the same results with half the renders of each event and limiting themselves to at least 1000 renders per playable day.

I said the same thing game has so many unncey stuff in it like why have chcacters like the two boys at the museum

 

[Davewatch]

I think a lot of people don't want L&P to make over 1000 renders per half day, not just me.

Don't get me wrong, I love this game and these characters and think that the slowburn progression and the relationship building is great, but it's just too much of a slowburn with lots of superflous moments, dialogue and characters, and I guarantee that L&P could easily achieve the same results with half the renders of each event and limiting themselves to at least 1000 renders per playable day.

So slow that it and interest fizzles out it can not call itself a slow burn it is evolution (will take decades to get anywhere) it IS that slow and after all this time still no real sex

 

[snof]

Snof, I'm not happy with the situation at all. In fact, I expressed my opinion on the matter several times on this board and his member page. I am vocal about L&P work and have praised and criticized his work. Now, In my opinion, He is taking too long between updates, which I believe is the result of too many cutscenes and renders. Also, Made comments in the past and didn't' really address the issue when it became a problem, which is causing a PR issue for letting it fester. Also, L&P has too many side characters with too many plots which consist of the side stories and the continued character additions. In fact, the game is already too big for him to handle, which he needs to reevaluate his process to help him bring it down to a manageable level if he continues to fly solo on his project to avoid getting burned out or hire people to help him with development.

Now with that said, I believe you missed the point of my comment. The point was L&P, although he taking too long to make updates and he can be argumentive, has yet to stop producing his novel which takes roughly six months to complete for one gameday whereas Isctor started off well with his updates, only taking a couple of months to produce. Then in March of 2019, he started to slow down and came to a stop, which resulted in a health issue for 2 months for April and May then extended it in June, but started back up on the game in mid or end of June slowly. From that point, he released Milfy City 6c around October and it was incomplete missing animations. Isctor stated that he would bring out the completed version in November and it turned out it went into December. From there, after he released Milfy City 6e and stated he would release updates every couple of months. And now it's July after he made that statement from December of last year, where he admitted he lost interest, reneged on his statement for updates in a couple of months, ban or global mute members (Patreon included) from discord if they ask questions about the update timeframe, and he has a team helping him with his work. Also; there is no update as of yet.

So the point to my comment is there are other developers who have a larger membership base and making more money but are doing as far worst in terms of production, from my example above in this statement.

my statements are true for every slow milking games. stop being patreon . and when they realized they can't milk their fans so easily , they will be better

btw i hate icstor too. you can see my post in milfycity.

 

[RoadGork]

Thanks for letting me know i will give it a try then

Np, hope that you will enjoy it as I did.

 

[RoadGork]

my statements are true for every slow milking games. stop being patreon . and when they realized they can't milk their fans so easily , they will be better

btw i hate icstor too. you can see my post in milfycity.

ICSTOR is way worse in my opinion, considering his story and how many times he gets away with his actions towards his own games.

 

[Pens955]

the game wont start it crash at the very beginning. what should i do ?

 

[lockerxx]

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Intermediate information: The Alyssa event has already 160 renders and it's sure that it will have more than 200! But it will definitely have less than 300. I'm at the final part of its development now.

can someone ask L&P on patreon what we can expect for the sophie/alyssa event.maybe L&P said something like the yoga class.

 

[Old Dog]

can someone ask L&P on patreon what we can expect for the sophie/alyssa event.maybe L&P said something like the yoga class.

No you will get the same response as you got for the yoga event,erotic,sexy but no sex.

 

[lockerxx]

No you will get the same response as you got for the yoga event,erotic,sexy but no sex.

nudity too?

 

[raj raj]

When next update? Or abodaned

 

[jonnybravo11]

progress is 80, 70, 0, 0 --------------> waiting for 100, 100, 100, 100.
kinda slow this time .... translation and programming will take 25-30 days I suppose.
my prediction for next update around mid to late September.

 

[loli13]

Or maybe in December... Just kdding. Anytime tomorrow would be great

Did LP wrote something about the 1st job? Thinking of some groping and touching from the old guys or some nip/thong slip

 

[Old Dog]

Or maybe in December... Just kdding. Anytime tomorrow would be great

Did LP wrote something about the 1st job? Thinking of some groping and touching from the old guys or some nip/thong slip

no

 

[armion82]

Or maybe in December... Just kdding. Anytime tomorrow would be great

Did LP wrote something about the 1st job? Thinking of some groping and touching from the old guys or some nip/thong slip

In December we are expecting 0.105.Not sure if he really can make it if 0.100 come out really middle of September like some are saying.There is still some chance for August,but he must finish Alyssa this month otherwise-yes September release.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

ICSTOR is way worse in my opinion, considering his story and how many times he gets away with his actions towards his own games.

ICSTOR at least has sex scenes in their games, and top quality ones at that. Their problem is that they seem to get bored and burned out easily, probably owing to the fact that their games never really seem to have a clear endgame in mind; it's all about the seduction of various women, mostly family members, but once that's done they don't know how to tie everything together and create a satisfying ending so they give up.

ICSTOR's not much on creating compelling narrative, but L&P is. L&P's issue that they simply do too much. They could easily achieve the same results from all the previous events and the ones yet to come if they halved the number of renders for each of them. This game could be done in 5 years (still a long time, I know) if they did this and released a full playable day update every 3-4 months and the quality of the game would not diminish if they did.

 

[magaclaawe]

ICSTOR at least has sex scenes in their games, and top quality ones at that. Their problem is that they seem to get bored and burned out easily, probably owing to the fact that their games never really seem to have a clear endgame in mind; it's all about the seduction of various women, mostly family members, but once that's done they don't know how to tie everything together and create a satisfying ending so they give up.

ICSTOR's not much on creating compelling narrative, but L&P is. L&P's issue that they simply do too much. They could easily achieve the same results from all the previous events and the ones yet to come if they halved the number of renders for each of them. This game could be done in 5 years (still a long time, I know) if they did this and released a full playable day update every 3-4 months and the quality of the game would not diminish if they did.

He did really great game.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

He did really great game.

In terms of the renders and animations, sure, but there was no real story there to connect everything together and it needed an underlying narrative to drive the events. Take a game like Being A DIK, for example. There's a lot of pursuable LIs in that game and a lot of sex, but there's also a narrative both for the MC and one running in the background that will eventually draw the MC into it. Milfy City had no story and no narrative, it was just a series of separate stories with different female characters with no underlying narrative for the MC, and without that it's hard to find a way to tie everything together.

AWAM is also a great game because it has great quality renders, compelling characters, and a compelling narrative, but it's the opposite of Milfy City in that it has too much narrative and not enough sex. Milfy City, for all its faults, managed to make the relationship with Caroline very emotional and moving, and they did it with a lot fewer renders and a lot less dialogue. This is what L&P has to do and I believe they can IF they are able to be more concise and recognise that they don't have to do so much to achieve their end results.

In fact, if they haven't already I'd recommend that L&P plays Milfy City, specifically the Caroline storyline, to see how a relationship, specifically an incestuous one, with a deep, emotional connection can be done with less renders and dialogue.

 

[hax]

4 months... pretty sure we will have more 2 updates this year this one month 8 and next one christmas..

 

[Calyps0]

Any idea when the next mac update to this will be coming down the pike? I had really hoped that during the corona-times many devs would have nothing but time to spend working on these games (in between TP runs).

 

[Old Dog]

Any idea when the next mac update to this will be coming down the pike? I had really hoped that during the corona-times many devs would have nothing but time to spend working on these games (in between TP runs).

A lot of us here think August is a good bet for the next update to drop.We should know more sometime next week,hopefully.