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VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.215f] [Lust & Passion]

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Notretsam

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I don't mind the Bennett stuff being cut, as wasn't to big a fan of him. I don't mind blackmail stories, just didn't care to see him with Sophia.

L & P has committed to much time to the tasks now that I doubt he will cut anything from plans with Aiden, he better not, it's the best part of AWAM.

As I said many times now and sure people get sick of me saying this, "the side stories are the main story", it's all designed to corrupt Sophia enough to have sex with someone who is not her husband.

The real question is, what one of the 4 options below will the filthy route end up being.

  1. will it lead to just be one person only (aka Dylan only but choices on who that 1 person is)
  2. will it be multiple people separately (aka Dylan, Sam, Ellie, Zach, Aiden, Patricia, Alyssa)
  3. will it be multiple people together(aka Dylan, Sam, Ellie, Zach, Aiden + friends, Patricia, Alyssa)
  4. will it be everyone and all
clearly, it will be 1 person, to begin with, but I mean after, where does L&P go, its either of the 4 options I would think.

I personally think it be 2 but hoping for 3 (and secretly 4 but highly doubt it will be 4)
 
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XaGnard

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Old dog said:
L&P has already said that he will not drop the side jobs,I guess this could change in the future but for now they stay.
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I just said what I think is needed to make this game work and succeed (as in not get abandoned). My line of thought is simple: The way things are going now, this game would take way more than 10 years to finish, which may be possible for an AAA, but is totally absurd for a one man development.

With the game going to fail, there will also be no side jobs any more. So why not just drop the side jobs (or some other side stories) to at least finish the main story.

BTW, the side jobs are so well suited as deletion candidates, since they are not currently associated with any of the other story lines. In this game there are also a lot of other side stories that could be deleted without any problems. Some stories are even completely redundant (e.g. high number of blackmail stories).

Old dog said:
... As for the janitor we have little information on him and only know that he will not play a large part in the game. ...
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This is one of those typical examples of a side story that could have been dropped without much trouble. My goodness, the game has been in development for years now and almost none of the stories have really started to develop. Why introduce a charater in such a cumbersome way if he does not play a real role?!?
 
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Notretsam said:
I don't mind the Bennett stuff being cut, as wasn't to big a fan of him. I don't mind blackmail stories, just didn't care to see him with Sophia.

L & P has committed to much time to the tasks now that I doubt he will cut anything from plans with Aiden, he better not, it's the best part of AWAM.

As I said many times now and sure people get sick of me saying this, "the side stories are the main story", it's all designed to corrupt Sophia enough to have sex with someone who is not her husband.

The real question is, what one of the 4 options below will the filthy route end up being.

  1. will it lead to just be one person only (aka Dylan only but choices on who that 1 person is)
  2. will it be multiple people separately (aka Dylan, Sam, Ellie, Zach, Aiden, Patricia, Alyssa)
  3. will it be multiple people together(aka Dylan, Sam, Ellie, Zach, Aiden + friends, Patricia, Alyssa)
  4. will it be everyone and all
clearly, it will be 1 person, to begin with, but I mean after, where does L&P go, its either of the 4 options I would think.

I personally think it be 2 but hoping for 3 (and secretly 4 but highly doubt it will be 4)
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I have my doubts that Sophia will have sexual intercourse,maybe some foreplay with Aiden .As for Bennet Sophia already has the means,3 or 4 options open to her, to stop Bennet and get Dylan's history grade improved without sleeping with him.
Dylan,Sam,Ellie are main ,important,characters,I am not so sure about Patricia,Alyssa and Zac though.
All of this will of course depend on players choice,but L&P may take that choice away in some cases.
 
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Creeping Death

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Old dog said:
Talking and paying for dinner didn't seem to help bennet much concerning Sophia:ROFLMAO:
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Dude, in a perfect world those two things would be enough to get me any woman I want (on the other hand, some talking, a dinner, wouldn't this be Planet Slut?!). But, one moment, doing some reality check... oh bloody hell... the success rate is very, very shitty. This makes me sad. :cry::sick::cry:
 
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The janitor, museum guys, Vicky and etc are not what’s taking the most time. Some of them have not been in the game for years and won’t be for years. The number of renders is the main problem . And the number of branches, specifically Dylan and Ellie. Just take Dylan : Cuckold or not, take martial arts lessons or not, pair him with Ellie or not, with Emma or not, boarding school or not, etc . And that’s without taking into account where you’re at with Ellie. As for Bennet, why would L&p take that out of the hands of the people who follow that route. To satisfy those who don’t like him ? You can already refuse him in the game. So you just want to remove the fun for those who enjoy that route ? I don’t like bdsm . What if that happens in one of the route ? Should I start lobbying so that he removes it from the game ? On the topic of the numbers of renders, L&p said that we should wait after the update is out to judge if it was worth it. That’s nice and all but in that case it’s never enough. He could take five years for one update, make it all animated and fully voice acted if he wants to . But if it’s just one 1/2 ingame days out of the 38 or 39 that are still missing has taken 5 months, that game will never be finished. Look at the number of events for the next update. 9 events. Maybe some will be short, but even if none of them goes beyond 250-300 renders, I’m pretty sure it will be one of the biggest update again and that we won’t see it before February at best.
 
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Holy Bacchus said:
A better comparison would have been the first part of Day 11 which has just 515 renders. Comparing this update to their first version creates a false impression about the scope of the update because it misses out the fact that these 1327 are just for a half-day update for Day 11 of a game that has 30 planned playable days. If this was 1327 renders for 3 full days of progress, then that number would be more impressive because not only is it a high render count, but the progression of days is also better.

Of course, patrons and folks here know it's just a half-day update, but it's still an omission of important context about the update in a way that seem designed to fool people.
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1327 renders,how that works?
Probably 180 renders between Julia/Ellie or Alyssa and yoga are actually counting in yoga event?
Otherwise we will have like 100 renders for 4 events-Max/Emma,Max self defense course,Liam/Sophia,Liam/Sophia/Morello.
Holy Bacchus said:
and they were able to do the 0.095 update with 515 renders in 2 months so we know they can do that amount in a short space of time and I, for one, was perfectly satisified with the content of that update.
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It was actually almost 100 days,not 2 months.
XaGnard said:
I just said what I think is needed to make this game work and succeed (as in not get abandoned). My line of thought is simple: The way things are going now, this game would take way more than 10 years to finish, which may be possible for an AAA, but is totally absurd for a one man development.

With the game going to fail, there will also be no side jobs any more. So why not just drop the side jobs (or some other side stories) to at least finish the main story.

BTW, the side jobs are so well suited as deletion candidates, since they are not currently associated with any of the other story lines. In this game there are also a lot of other side stories that could be deleted without any problems. Some stories are even completely redundant (e.g. high number of blackmail stories).



This is one of those typical examples of a side story that could have been dropped without much trouble. My goodness, the game has been in development for years now and almost none of the stories have really started to develop. Why introduce a charater in such a cumbersome way if he does not play a real role?!?
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Which AAA games you are talking about,that are taking 10+ years to be completed?All that I can think can be at best caled B games.
 
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kevin.a

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Old dog said:
The museum boys will be back on playable day 14.
As for the janitor we have little information on him and only know that he will not play a large part in the game.
Sophia has said that they may meet again on a Friday/Saturday,at the end of the club scene,but it could happen even though Sophia has a low opinion of Tyler and knows that he is only after 1 things.
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