VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.215f] [Lust & Passion]

[nexer]

But, I don't know, something .... Ellie catches her mother masturbating and watching porn, maybe she intends to help Sophia a little, as Dylan has done.
I don't think that Brayden has forgotten about Sophia and that he was about to fuck her.
Do Ellie has a deal with Logan and Brayden?

 

[Easylovingcpl]

God created our life , but L&P created a parallel life of Sophia.
Its amazing how he is touching all the fantasies that's is not easy on real life : family , hotwifing- teacher student .
It's amazing how in each episode there is a ( theme) . In the last one was showing her tits. In the bikini show it was showing the boys ( dylan and sam then zack)her bikinis and underwear!
I admire this game . The game that take us do different life , almost real .

 

[abram1]

L&P sometimes makes small, but important, in my opinion, inaccuracies.

1. I already wrote that Zack's hands were too far from Sofia's chest while he was massaging her. Although the text indicated that he approached her breasts and Sophia was silent, wanting to understand how far he could go.

2. During her yoga class, Sophia shook her head with a smile as Claire and Marie joked about Dylan while he took off his pants.
But what do we see?
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Claire smiles really big and Marie laughs, but Sofia doesn't have a cheerful expression at all.
It is a pity because her good-natured, beautiful smile would be appropriate at this moment.

If he's not touching chest on this image, IDK what he's touching. With his right hand he practically reached the upper part of Sophia's breast.
And during yoga class she definitely wasn't happy about dirty jokes towards her son so it looks more like a smile of reproval, which suits the situation perfectly. Bear in mind that L&P meticulously keeps his eyes on facial expessions of the characters. And as any normal human being he makes mistakes time to time, which members of this thread noted in the 0.115.

 

[kyho]

For some reason the game won't go past the bedroom scene with Liam. I get a "to be continued" message as if I have v1.00 installed.
No Day 19 for me, WTF?

 

[hzjujk]

So sick of Liam, I never give him sex. Wish he could get COVID & give it to pigmy so they have to quarantine some hotel

Liam is not a bad guy but is only interested in Liam at the moment. this becomes very clear on the way to prison.
Sophia is the one who asks him how he feels but not the other way around. He even reacts upset when she mentions
the reason for this appointment. (I would be as small as a mouse if I was to blame for something like that!!!)
In prison, talking on the phone is more important to him than giving his wife the feeling that "I'm there when you need me".
Of course he would have given Sophia the space to play with fire.
I don't think many women would have gone as far as Sophia, but most would have enjoyed playing with the bad boy when a pane
of glass offers the security of not leaving the comfort zone.
I don't give a shit that Liam was worried afterwards. I would not have left my wife's side.

 

[nexer]

3 buddies meets 3 women at a club. One of them almost stick his finger in the, first one meet beautiful, woman.
What happens to Brayden after this? Bombard Logan with questions and ask for another meeting. He wants to finish the job .
Brayden has told Logan that the woman is bursting at the seams. And Logan to Ellie the same. Real world.

Imagine, Logan to Ellie: "your friend, Sophia, has to get laid, and fast."

 

[Mikilande]

I really like this game, but I frankly admit that a black page between each shot or each scene is really very painful !

 

[Old Dog]

3 buddies meets 3 women at a club. One of them almost stick his finger in the, first one meet beautiful, woman.
What happens to Brayden after this? Bombard Logan with questions and ask for another meeting. He wants to finish the job .
Brayden has told Logan that the woman is bursting at the seams. And Logan to Ellie the same. Real world.

Imagine, Logan to Ellie: "your friend, Sophia, has to get laid, and fast."

I think that your imagination is running away to a far far away place there

 

[Old Dog]

Liam is not a bad guy but is only interested in Liam at the moment. this becomes very clear on the way to prison.
Sophia is the one who asks him how he feels but not the other way around. He even reacts upset when she mentions
the reason for this appointment. (I would be as small as a mouse if I was to blame for something like that!!!)
In prison, talking on the phone is more important to him than giving his wife the feeling that "I'm there when you need me".
Of course he would have given Sophia the space to play with fire.
I don't think many women would have gone as far as Sophia, but most would have enjoyed playing with the bad boy when a pane
of glass offers the security of not leaving the comfort zone.
I don't give a shit that Liam was worried afterwards. I would not have left my wife's side.

Sophia left Liam at the casino knowing full well that he has a problem with gambling just so she could have some fun at the club and get felt up by Tyler so who is really to blame here?
Sophia and Liam showed a lack of judgement in choosing the casino so I would blame both of them for the debt.
As for how far Sophia would/should of gone remember it is her own family that she is trying to protect to keep them safe and have a home for them.
So how far would any mother go to protect her children?
As the game title suggest"A wife and mother" And in the end she has to ask herself… how far can she go?

 

[hzjujk]

Sophia left Liam at the casino knowing full well that he has a problem with gambling just so she could have some fun at the club and get felt up by Tyler so who is really to blame here?
Sophia and Liam showed a lack of judgement in choosing the casino so I would blame both of them for the debt.
As for how far Sophia would/should of gone remember it is her own family that she is trying to protect to keep them safe and have a home for them.
So how far would any mother go to protect her children?
As the game title suggest"A wife and mother" And in the end she has to ask herself… how far can she go?

Yes, every player sees the events here as they would like to. Now I have to ask: "Did you skip the club event?" If so, then you haven't allowed it to be corrupted. Unlike me.
Sure, Sophia (me the player) bears part of the responsibility. That is probably why she doesn’t rebel to prostitute herself for her husband. Even if there is no evidence of an internal monologue for this.

 

[nexer]

Remember this, funny, Dylan scared her




But this one: "I'll will never get that image out of my head"

 

[Bane71]

If he's not touching chest on this image, IDK what he's touching. With his right hand he practically reached the upper part of Sophia's breast.
And during yoga class she definitely wasn't happy about dirty jokes towards her son so it looks more like a smile of reproval, which suits the situation perfectly. Bear in mind that L&P meticulously keeps his eyes on facial expessions of the characters. And as any normal human being he makes mistakes time to time, which members of this thread noted in the 0.115.
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It can be interpreted this way, but if it is clear in the text, then “Sophia smiled shaking her head,” not a word about any regret at that moment.
And in the first case, Zach's hand could be a little lower, then, it would fit the description, in my opinion.

In any case, as some people have already said here, L&P has laid a good foundation for the development of various routes that lead Sofia to hot events in the future.

I would like to hope that L&P will justify my hopes and will not fail, I will see what I expect ...
If I am not dead by then ...))

 

[Old Dog]

Yes, every player sees the events here as they would like to. Now I have to ask: "Did you skip the club event?" If so, then you haven't allowed it to be corrupted. Unlike me.
Sure, Sophia (me the player) bears part of the responsibility. That is probably why she doesn’t rebel to prostitute herself for her husband. Even if there is no evidence of an internal monologue for this.

I played both scenes,I have a number of saves just to see how things will turn out.
If you play one route it can show Sophia as selfish and other routes as a loving wife.
The dialog between Sophia/Liam when they first met the don was harsh from Liam,but he could of just been nervous I guess.
His dialog after the prison visit was all about him(yes I agree) but then Sophia lied to him about the meeting and has also lied to Liam before concerning the dinner with Bennett.

 

[Old Dog]

It can be interpreted this way, but if it is clear in the text, then “Sophia smiled shaking her head,” not a word about any regret at that moment.
And in the first case, Zach's hand could be a little lower, then, it would fit the description, in my opinion.

In any case, as some people have already said here, L&P has laid a good foundation for the development of various routes that lead Sofia to hot events in the future.

I would like to hope that L&P will justify my hopes and will not fail, I will see what I expect ...
If I am not dead by then ...))

The next meeting between Sophia and Alyssa will be hot,Zac/Dylan will not be there so if you wanted a Sophia/Alyssa/Zac sorry,whether this will happen in the future or even if Zac is having sex with Alyssa we don't know.
We do know that you will have to chose between Alyssa or Zac at some point in the game so this puts some doubt in my mind that a 3 some will happen.

 

[Bane71]

The next meeting between Sophia and Alyssa will be hot,Zac/Dylan will not be there so if you wanted a Sophia/Alyssa/Zac sorry.
Whether this will happen in the future or even if Zac is having sex with Alyssa we don't know.

My friend, I will not go deep into my expectations now. Let me just say that L&P hints at many directions that attentive users notice.
We will see.
My English is weak, you probably missed some of the irony and joke in my pretensions. Yes, they do exist, but they are not cretistic at all.

Unfortunately, a lot of nonsense is often written here, I just want to dilute it with some kind of discussion of something not very important, but regarding the game, and not the personality of the L&P.

I hope you understand me correctly.

 

[Old Dog]

My friend, I will not go deep into my expectations now. Let me just say that L&P hints at many directions that attentive users notice.
We will see.
My English is weak, you probably missed some of the irony and joke in my pretensions. Yes, they do exist, but they are not cretistic at all.

Unfortunately, a lot of nonsense is often written here, I just want to dilute it with some kind of discussion of something not very important, but regarding the game, and not the personality of the L&P.

I hope you understand me correctly.

 

[Bane71]

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Thank you, the hot event of Sofia and Alissa, warms the soul.

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

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based on recent updates, you should understand what L&P means by "hot" it could be just a simple kiss

 

[Kodek]

At this point, all we have is speculation about why Ellie dislikes Dylan so much.

It's easy to add in your preferred flavor:

I Don't Like Dylan so he must have done many bad things to Ellie.

I Like Dylan so Ellie is being unreasonable.

In the End - we don't know!

The author of the story has set up tension between different characters (Ellie and Dylan is a major source of family tension but there are others including the tension between Sophia and Liam - Liam is not paying enough attention to his wife and her eyes are wandering..., then there is Liam and Dylan where the thing Dylan is most proud of - his soccer playing skills - are always ridiculed by his father - and 'best' male role model.)

It is his artistic license to resolve the tension as he sees fit.

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We have seen several bonus story lines between Ellie and Dylan where their feud seems to be ratcheting down a few degrees.

If you don't like Dylan, you typically don't like or agree with this part of the story arc - L&P is selling out so Dylan can bone his sister or L&P is selling out because Dylan is so popular.

If you like Dylan, then this is part of a logical healing process that typically takes place between siblings.

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What if L&P is maintaining the tension between family members as part of the story??

For those who actually think that the Dylan and Ellie disagreement is permanent and can never be resolved - is that based on your own experiences or just your desires re: you like Ellie and dislike Dylan?

Real life - brothers and sisters fight as teenagers and many heal their relationships as they get older. I come from a large family and I've seen the healing take place, prompted by different things - I played soccer and a brother 1 year younger started playing. In time, it was more fun to beat the other team than to beat on each other. One brother and one sister refused to back down when they disagreed and it was not uncommon to have them come to dinner with the sister's cheek bruised and the brother's cheek with claw marks on it. They are great friends now and yes - it did not happen instantly, but turning points actually occur.

If you are an only child or there are significant years between you and the next sibling, your personal experiences are likely not going to provide the tension I saw growing up... or the tension that L&P has written - yes Written - into his creation.

So - why don't we let L&P tell the story his way, creating tension and doubt as part of the journey and see how these are resolved through time?

I do agree with you. I am indeed putting my personal tastes in my point of view most of the times, i guess it's a common thing people do when they are looking at some story. Everyone has their favorite character, couple and ending when they are reading throught something.

I can't speculate clearly what will happen because of this, i just need to wait and see where this development will lead us.

 

[Kodek]

All that could be very important when the Logan/Ellie line splits up into 3 and we know that Sophia is involved so this dialog could be the setting up for that and also Logan still has no idea that Ellie is Sophia's daughter or that Sophia is married and made out with her sister Patricia.

I guess some choices we made earlier in the game will come into play when Logan's plot line develops more.

Like, if Sophia choose to not stop the masseusse from getting all the way with Ellie then she can choose to the same with Logan, even if something feels off. Or if Sophia choose to kiss Patricia in the club or not. There can be a lot of possible variations coming into play in this event.