VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.215f] [Lust & Passion]

[Holy Bacchus]

It could be. But it's Patricia we are talking about, she tease and flirts with anything if it's cute or hot enough. (Yeah, anything. She flirts with her DEagle, i just know it)

True, but it depends on what the deal is with her only being with Carl and not other guys despite all the fliriting with him. Could be that she's a faithful wife who just enjoys the thrill of flirting (doubtful), or maybe they are relatively open but she's just not been interested/excited by any other guys. If it's the latter, then a chance to do something with her nephew might just be something that excites her, especially if she finds out about him and Sophia when things start to escalate between them.

 

[Poser_Voyeur]

There's also the Museum event the night before. Which makes me curious how L&P will structure the event considering we know that Jason and Haru wont play a significant part.

Oh, and concerning the horse-riding event on playable day 15, it might be poignant to point out that L&P will be introducing yet another new character with Patricia's friend Zoe, which may just be for this event.

I want to click facepalm for that, not because of your post or anything you have said Alley_Cat, but just at the thought that L&P is introducing yet more seemingly unnecssary characters at this late stage.

If I remember correctly, we are roughly two and a half weeks into the storyline, before the upcoming time jumps. Jason and Haru would have been fine as characters that we meet briefly IF we had met them for the museum visit say a week- ten days into the story. It would have emphasized Sophia's artistic liking and could have been some great early harmless flirting. Because they were nt family members or students, then Sophia could have gone a bit further with them earlier than she could with the other young men in her life.

Now when Jason and Haru show up, it will feel as if just slowing down the storyline and delaying what we hope is the inevitable.....

I reserve the right to change my opinion if Zoe turns out to be smoking hot!!

 

[Holy Bacchus]

I want to click facepalm for that, not because of your post or anything you have said Alley_Cat, but just at the thought that L&P is introducing yet more seemingly unnecssary characters at this late stage.

If I remember correctly, we are roughly two and a half weeks into the storyline, before the upcoming time jumps. Jason and Haru would have been fine as characters that we meet briefly IF we had met them for the museum visit say a week- ten days into the story. It would have emphasized Sophia's artistic liking and could have been some great early harmless flirting. Because they were nt family members or students, then Sophia could have gone a bit further with them earlier than she could with the other young men in her life.

Now when Jason and Haru show up, it will feel as if just slowing down the storyline and delaying what we hope is the inevitable.....

I reserve the right to change my opinion if Zoe turns out to be smoking hot!!

The only way I see Zoey being important is either:

A) She serves as the riding coach for Sophia and that's it
B) Sophia catches Zoey eating out Patricia and Patricia catches Sophia watching which leads to them doing something with each other afterwards.

 

[Poser_Voyeur]

We are still only on playable day 12 of 30 and have had just 1 of, I believe, 4 or 5 events on this Dylan/Ellie side story, so there is a long way to go and more than enough time to build something between them in a way that works and makes sense (hopefully moreso than Dylan's dumbass blackmail shit).

I honestly do think it will lead to that just as I believe that there will be action between all sorts of different combinations of the family members (Liam excluded); Sophia/Ellie, Sophia/Dylan, Sophia/Patricia, Ellie/Dylan, Ellie/Patricia, Dylan/Patricia, Sophia/Ellie/Dylan, Sophia/Ellie/Patricia, Sophia/Dylan/Patricia, Sophia/Ellie/Dylan/Patricia.



Them going off alone to some secluded spot for some sisterly "brokebacking" would be very nice.

I like the thought of many of those sexual combinations, but I am not sure how many we will actually see. I can see Patricia teasing Dylan but I am not sure she would actually have sex with him and break the no-dick agreement that she has with her husband.

Throw into the mix Amber/Sam/Julia and Alyssa/Zac to the above and we have got some great options for sexual pairings, but we may have to rely on Fan Art for the majority of them.

 

[Alley_Cat]

The only way I see Zoey being important is either:

A) She serves as the riding coach for Sophia and that's it
B) Sophia catches Zoey eating out Patricia and Patricia catches Sophia watching which leads to them doing something with each other afterwards.

I thought Alyssa was Sophia's riding coach

 

[Old Dog]

The only way I see Zoey being important is either:

A) She serves as the riding coach for Sophia and that's it
B) Sophia catches Zoey eating out Patricia and Patricia catches Sophia watching which leads to them doing something with each other afterwards.

Zoey will probably go the same way as Jason and Haru appear a couple of times then gone.

 

[lockerxx]

Zoey will probably go the same way as Jason and Haru appear a couple of times then gone.

who is zoey

 

[Old Dog]

who is zoey

Patricia's friend who own/runs a ranch that breeds/sells horses

 

[Alley_Cat]

Alley Cat, it is rare when I disagree with a person. For that to happen, that person must choose to be a hater/troll facepalmer etc.

You and I might disagree about story lines or characters but I respect your position - you can usually back it up with reasons why you hold that position or you simply state something as a desire.

Both are equally valid.

I think that there is room in L&P's AWAM universe for the vast majority of us to get the content we want and avoid the content we don't want.

Sometimes I see 'logic' that isn't - at least in my view - and I will offer my own 'logic' - as a counterpoint.

We have members of the community who are invested and those who visit to troll or drop the 'still no sex' bomb, having skipped through the update in 5 minutes...

I am happy to engage and agree/disagree with the first and generally ignore the second.

Cheers!

And for the most part I try not to troll. I'll admit I've slipped up a few times, particularly if I've had a few (Straya!!), but they usually get removed by the mods, and rightly so.

But with the time between updates, coupled with the complete lack of detail we get sometimes (I mean, why keep Larry's name a secret?), it's understandable that people will chat and discuss theories. And so I'll show evidence to back up or refute theories, so that when the time comes, we don't get as disappointed as we might have been otherwise. It's just unfortunate that with Dylan being the most popular character he gets discussed more, so results in some of the more wilder theories about events he features in. But yeah, having a reasonable discussion without being dismissed for "not liking Dylan", or just insulted is a refreshing change.

Which makes me curious, where are the Sam fans? Is it just that since he's not going to be in an event for a while that his fans are hibernating or something?

 

[Old Dog]

And for the most part I try not to troll. I'll admit I've slipped up a few times, particularly if I've had a few (Straya!!), but they usually get removed by the mods, and rightly so.

But with the time between updates, coupled with the complete lack of detail we get sometimes (I mean, why keep Larry's name a secret?), it's understandable that people will chat and discuss theories. And so I'll show evidence to back up or refute theories, so that when the time comes, we don't get as disappointed as we might have been otherwise. It's just unfortunate that with Dylan being the most popular character he gets discussed more, so results in some of the more wilder theories about events he features in. But yeah, having a reasonable discussion without being dismissed for "not liking Dylan", or just insulted is a refreshing change.

Which makes me curious, where are the Sam fans? Is it just that since he's not going to be in an event for a while that his fans are hibernating or something?

You could also ask where the Aiden/Bennet fans are as we have not heard a peek from them in a while.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

I like the thought of many of those sexual combinations, but I am not sure how many we will actually see. I can see Patricia teasing Dylan but I am not sure she would actually have sex with him and break the no-dick agreement that she has with her husband.

Throw into the mix Amber/Sam/Julia and Alyssa/Zac to the above and we have got some great options for sexual pairings, but we may have to rely on Fan Art for the majority of them.

She can always jerk or blow him, right? That wouldn't breach her apparent "no other dick but my husband's in my pussy" rule.

I still think we're underestimating just how much time is left in this game. There are still 18 and 2/3 playable days left in this game, one of which we know will be an all-day event so we'll finally get a full day in a single update, but that still leaves 17 full days left. These could be consecutive days like we have now or we might jump some time like we did at the start, either way, a lot can still change and develop.

So far, certain paths seem to rely on each other but at the potential exclusion of other characters. For example, the lesbian path is required to progress with Ellie but if you choose Ellie it blocks Alyssa completely. It's not clear yet what choosing Alyssa will do for the Ellie path, but considering L&P has said it will limit events with Ellie, it's likely that Ellie may eventually be blocked by pursuing Alyssa. So it's possible that as we go further, more decisions like this will block off certain characters and narrow the field. Filthy points are also required for the lesbian action as well as the incest action and so far it seems like all 3 of these points work in sync with each other, so this would seem to suggest a connection with these paths and the 4 related characters on it.

I've always felt like most other characters outside the family (with the exception of Alyssa) are just fodder to open Sophia up more to these new, taboo sensations with her family. The game is called "A Wife and Mother", and to me that has seemed like "Wife" = the Good Wife path, and "Mother" = the Filthy/incest path with her kids and that this is what the game has been about, that if you choose to go down either path, all other characters will eventually just drift off into the background as Sophia stays faithful to her husband or starts having sexual relationships with her kids.

Zoey will probably go the same way as Jason and Haru appear a couple of times then gone.

One and done, probably.

Zoey: "Hi Sophia. I'm Patricia's friend, Zoey, and I'll be teaching you the proper way to ride a horse."

*At the end of the event*

Zoey: "Well, it was nice meeting you Sophia. Patricia, call me, we'll have lunch some time."

Narrator: "And that was the last we ever saw of Zoey. We'll never know if she had that lunch with Patricia, but some things just ain't worth knowing."

 

[Alley_Cat]

She can always jerk or blow him, right? That wouldn't breach her apparent "no other dick but my husband's in my pussy" rule.

I still think we're underestimating just how much time is left in this game. There are still 18 and 2/3 playable days left in this game, one of which we know will be an all-day event so we'll finally get a full day in a single update, but that still leaves 17 full days left. These could be consecutive days like we have now or we might jump some time like we did at the start, either way, a lot can still change and develop.

So far, certain paths seem to rely on each other but at the potential exclusion of other characters. For example, the lesbian path is required to progress with Ellie but if you choose Ellie it blocks Alyssa completely. It's not clear yet what choosing Alyssa will do for the Ellie path, but considering L&P has said it will limit events with Ellie, it's likely that Ellie may eventually be blocked by pursuing Alyssa. So it's possible that as we go further, more decisions like this will block off certain characters and narrow the field. Filthy points are also required for the lesbian action as well as the incest action and so far it seems like all 3 of these points work in sync with each other, so this would seem to suggest a connection with these paths and the 4 related characters on it.

I've always felt like most other characters outside the family (with the exception of Alyssa) are just fodder to open Sophia up more to these new, taboo sensations with her family. The game is called "A Wife and Mother", and to me that has seemed like "Wife" = the Good Wife path, and "Mother" = the Filthy/incest path with her kids and that this is what the game has been about, that if you choose to go down either path, all other characters will eventually just drift off into the background as Sophia stays faithful to her husband or starts having sexual relationships with her kids.



One and done, probably.

Zoey: "Hi Sophia. I'm Patricia's friend, Zoey, and I'll be teaching you the proper way to ride a horse."

*At the end of the event*

Zoey: "Well, it was nice meeting you Sophia. Patricia, call me, we'll have lunch some time."

Narrator: "And that was the last we ever saw of Zoey. We'll never know if she had that lunch with Patricia, but some things just ain't worth knowing."

You don't think literally riding into the sunset is a little cliché for L&P? You might be right though.

But about Sophia, you're forgetting about Sam. While for example Jules is indeed a minor character tied to the Ellie route, Sam is tied to neither Ellie or Dylan routes, but is still Filthy and non-incest.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

You don't think literally riding into the sunset is a little cliché for L&P? You might be right though.

But about Sophia, you're forgetting about Sam. While for example Jules is indeed a minor character tied to the Ellie route, Sam is tied to neither Ellie or Dylan routes, but is still Filthy and non-incest.

Well I certainly don't think we're going to see a bad ending. Whatever ending we get, I feel like it will be a good/happy one, whether that's a GW ending with Liam, a Filthy ending with her kids and Patricia in an incest harem, or a Lesbian ending with Alyssa.

 

[MachoGuy]

Ohhhh, So that's how it managed to have such high reviews this piece of garbage

The staff actually deletes reviews that aren't PRO

 

[mulerider]

You could also ask where the Aiden/Bennet fans are as we have not heard a peek from them in a while.

im an aiden/bennet fan as well as being a fan of all of the routes.

lol crazy i know, but at the same time i dislike pretty ALL routes as well, but the only because 90% of
this VN is unrealistic as all hell. just my opinion.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Well I certainly don't think we're going to see a bad ending. Whatever ending we get, I feel like it will be a good/happy one, whether that's a GW ending with Liam, a Filthy ending with her kids and Patricia in an incest harem, or a Lesbian ending with Alyssa.

Again, you're ignoring the Sam route. I get that if you don't play his route he's easy to forget, the last time he was in one of my playthroughs was I think the swimming lesson, but at least I acknowledge he has his own route.

You're also ignoring even the possibility of a purely lesbian ending with Ellie. Ellie's is a route playable entirely independent of Dylan's (and vice versa, as there are no doubt players of the Dylan route with no interest in the Ellie route). If necessary I'll track it down, but I believe each of the five major characters will get their own endings.

 

[MattShizzle]

Hey, why are some bad reviews being deleted? Why is it still at 3.6 with a lot of recent 1 star reviews? And why no 0 star as this deserves it for the constant blueballing. A LOT are being deleted. Number of reviews has stayed the same for days. Despite several new ones, mostly bad being noted.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

im an aiden/bennet fan as well as being a fan of all of the routes.

lol crazy i know, but at the same time i dislike pretty ALL routes as well, but the only because 90% of
this VN is unrealistic as all hell. just my opinion.

And there are realistic VNs?

Again, you're ignoring the Sam route. I get that if you don't play his route he's easy to forget, the last time he was in one of my playthroughs was I think the swimming lesson, but at least I acknowledge he has his own route.

You're also ignoring even the possibility of a purely lesbian ending with Ellie. Ellie's is a route playable entirely independent of Dylan's (and vice versa, as there are no doubt players of the Dylan route with no interest in the Ellie route). If necessary I'll track it down, but I believe each of the five major characters will get their own endings.

Sam is easily forgettable, but I'm also a bit ambivalent about solo endings. I'm honestly not sure how exactly Sophia ending up in a relationship with her own daughter but nobody else, if that is what will happen, would happen. Sure, some players can focus on her to the exclusion of all others, but I honestly find it harder to believe Sophia will have a solo relationship ending with her, or Dylan, or Sam, or Patricia, than her having an ending where she's in a relationship with her kids and a bit of Patricia on the side. Similarly, I can see endings where she remains faithful to Liam or breaks up with up with him for a relationship with Alyssa as being more likely than ending up in a serious committed relationship with Sam.

Sure, pretty much every game will have some sort of solo ending with characters who could be categorised as "main love interests", but this game sometimes feels like, to me, the solo paths, with the exception of Liam and Alyssa, do not seem particularly viable and may end up being more of a "summer fling" type deal that help Sophia to "get her groove back" in different ways.

 

[mulerider]

And there are realistic VNs?



Sam is easily forgettable, but I'm also a bit ambivalent about solo endings. I'm honestly not sure how exactly Sophia ending up in a relationship with her own daughter but nobody else, if that is what will happen, would happen. Sure, some players can focus on her to the exclusion of all others, but I honestly find it harder to believe Sophia will have a solo relationship ending with her, or Dylan, or Sam, or Patricia, than her having an ending where she's in a relationship with her kids and a bit of Patricia on the side. Similarly, I can see endings where she remains faithful to Liam or breaks up with up with him for a relationship with Alyssa as being more likely than ending up in a serious committed relationship with Sam.

Sure, pretty much every game will have some sort of solo ending with characters who could be categorised as "main love interests", but this game sometimes feels like, to me, the solo paths, with the exception of Liam and Alyssa, do not seem particularly viable and may end up being more of a "summer fling" type deal that help Sophia to "get her groove back" in different ways.

99.9% are unrealistic but it was L&P he himself that said he was going to make it realistic because he was tired of all the
same so-same so unrealistic ones

 

[Alley_Cat]

And there are realistic VNs?



Sam is easily forgettable, but I'm also a bit ambivalent about solo endings. I'm honestly not sure how exactly Sophia ending up in a relationship with her own daughter but nobody else, if that is what will happen, would happen. Sure, some players can focus on her to the exclusion of all others, but I honestly find it harder to believe Sophia will have a solo relationship ending with her, or Dylan, or Sam, or Patricia, than her having an ending where she's in a relationship with her kids and a bit of Patricia on the side. Similarly, I can see endings where she remains faithful to Liam or breaks up with up with him for a relationship with Alyssa as being more likely than ending up in a serious committed relationship with Sam.

Sure, pretty much every game will have some sort of solo ending with characters who could be categorised as "main love interests", but this game sometimes feels like, to me, the solo paths, with the exception of Liam and Alyssa, do not seem particularly viable and may end up being more of a "summer fling" type deal that help Sophia to "get her groove back" in different ways.

Here is the quote from L&P himself. It might be worth clarifying though, since it says "every character will have his own special final (ending)", so that would even include Mr Murray (the postman), which I highly doubt L&P meant. And it was posted over two years ago.