VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.215f] [Lust & Passion]

[DonRE]

On your PC, 100% sure
What is your OS ?
What is the type of your exception ?

Win 7 X64 SP1

Text exceptions, something like parameter P is undefined, it starts at the point where workers leave her house and probably her sister arrives.

and from that point every next click is another new exception

 

[Deleted member 2183629]

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[L&P's Father-in-Law]

Not even that. L&P said he was going to start on Jan 6 so that makes it 2 months and a half. If you take out his 3 week issues with the GPUs then he would be at 60% at 7 weeks of work.

Not bad at all. He should aim for 10-15%/week + 1 teaser every week.

I replayed the full game from start to finish yesterday.

He could also hire some coder to code in collectibles and social media app. Collectibles + Social Media app are a must in these games. All he needs is a coder to get them in without breaking the game(and a coder can do it without messing up LP's work) and then LP spends a week doing collectible renders. Adds a lot of value and replayability.

Those perks + the existent render quality + story makes it a top 5 game easily. Right now is in the top 20.

Adding to this:

Someone proficient in daz3d could make the environments instead of L&P wasting time with it. Much easier to change things around in one almost-done environment and add lights than to make one from scratch. Thats days he could subtract from development (months once the full v1.0 version is done) in each version.

 

[Poser_Voyeur]

Ellie and Alyssa are on two separate routes that don't cross over and the reason for this will become clearer later on and also the reason why they are so different,besides the obvious.

I know and I might understand it more once that reason is revealed, but until then I am still slightly saddened that Sophia can't sleep with both Ellie and Alyssa. I know that v100 update scene with Alyssa did nt give any Lesbian points, But it SHOULD have done, given how subtly erotic it was .

I hope the reason, once it is eventually revealed, justifies my current sadness.

 

[Poser_Voyeur]

That's why I find the statements about the "power" Aiden has over Sophia somewhat amusing. It's as false as Ellie's sexual experience. It's far too easy for Sophia to exert her contacts and influence, which through Carl is not insignificant and tell him to go to hell.

If you want to play Aiden's route, sure, but his blackmail is mainly a bluff.

That is the saving grace of Aiden's blackmail for me. Yes it is TOTALLY a bluff. Hence why Aiden can't overplay his hand. We know there are several options that Sophia can take to end it. But if, and it is admittedly a big if, Aiden is subtle about it, each task is only just one teensy bit further than the last one, and so there is no real harm for Sophia to be inclined to acquiesce to his requests...,

And then eventually Sophia has gone past the point of no return and has already started enjoying these tasks.

Now the difficult is getting the balance right. Especially given her position as a teacher and with today's prevalence of camera phones. We need to hit that fine balance between erotic corruption whilst maintaining Sophia's plausible deniability. Its a tough balance to hit.....

 

[Alley_Cat]

Not even that. L&P said he was going to start on Jan 6 so that makes it 2 months and a half. If you take out his 3 week issues with the GPUs then he would be at 60% at 7 weeks of work.

Not bad at all. He should aim for 10-15%/week + 1 teaser every week.

I replayed the full game from start to finish yesterday.

He could also hire some coder to code in collectibles and social media app. Collectibles + Social Media app are a must in these games. All he needs is a coder to get them in without breaking the game(and a coder can do it without messing up LP's work) and then LP spends a week doing collectible renders. Adds a lot of value and replayability.

Those perks + the existent render quality + story makes it a top 5 game easily. Right now is in the top 20.

I believe L&P's aim is an update every 8 - 10 weeks, which, barring problems like moving house, graphics card problems etc, I calculate at 10 - 12.5%/week. If you include a buffer for problems cropping up, 15% doesn't seem unreasonable.

Not sure a teaser a week would work. For an update like this one with 5 events, that would be two teasers each event. And for some events that might be too much of a spoiler. For some events like the Ellie/Julia one, we only got 1 teaser.

 

[Old Dog]

I know and I might understand it more once that reason is revealed, but until then I am still slightly saddened that Sophia can't sleep with both Ellie and Alyssa. I know that v100 update scene with Alyssa did nt give any Lesbian points, But it SHOULD have done, given how subtly erotic it was .

I hope the reason, once it is eventually revealed, justifies my current sadness.

Alyssa and Ellie are rather for more intense relationships, so that's why they are not combinable. All the other girls/women in the game are rather adventures.

 

[Poser_Voyeur]

From everyone's replies the thing I realized is that most people love Alyssa and Ellie and Patricia as well. Almost every list has them at the top. I too love them.
Aiden is not liked much which is confusing since the thread has been all about his task for the past week or so.
Dylan, just like I suspected is not liked as a character by people.
Sam is mentioned a little bit. Personally I dislike him more than Dylan since he has the same intentions as Dylan but more cunning in execution. Atleast the fact that Dylan is honest makes him better than Sam for me personally.

So mostly ( atleast the active members ) people are liking the lesbian route.

So far the most action we have gotten is on the lesbian route. And there are a LOT of beautiful female LI's that dev has given us - in no particular order:
Ellie / Julia / Patricia / Alyssa / Vicky / Nathalie / Amber / Cathy
I would be more than happy if, eventually. and maybe requiring different playthroughs and different options taken, Sophia sleeps with ALL of them.

In comparison the guys have so far, understandably, have had less action on the Filthy route. And compared to that amazing list of female LI's, the male LI's are somewhat lacking.

Of the guys, I have warmed most so far to the Sam storyline. I could have totally got on board with Don Morello being a potential LI but gather that dev is not going down that route - it is NOT going to be an Indecent Proposal storyline, which is IMO a shame as I would have liked to se that as an option.

 

[Poser_Voyeur]

The relationship that Sophia will have with Alyssa is not compatible with the one that she will have with Ellie.
That is why Alyssa is tied to the Aiden route.

The rational me knows and can accept that.
The emotional me does nt and is still a bit grumpy about it.

 

[L&P's Father-in-Law]

I believe L&P's aim is an update every 8 - 10 weeks, which, barring problems like moving house, graphics card problems etc, I calculate at 10 - 12.5%/week. If you include a buffer for problems cropping up, 15% doesn't seem unreasonable.

Not sure a teaser a week would work. For an update like this one with 5 events, that would be two teasers each event. And for some events that might be too much of a spoiler. For some events like the Ellie/Julia one, we only got 1 teaser.

There's so much shit he could add to this game in terms of the perks I talked before that I would pay a dev to help him and code those things for a month just so he could see how dumb he's being not going through that route.

He creates a better than average(good) story and has very good renders but damn his stuborness in working alone is costing him a lot of potential profit.

 

[Poser_Voyeur]

Even though incest is not my personal thing, no issues with those that it is their thing, Patricia and the Ellie scenes were pretty hot. The scene with Ellie and Julia teasing our MC, muy bueno. Speaking of that, need some Elena for Soph. As for the possible hetero connection, the only one so far that I played into was with Larry. Him and Carl are the only ones I would allow to be with my MC. Carl because he is so nice to everyone and it would totally cuck Liam's whiny, no self control ass. Don't get me wrong, Liam is a good character...for me to poop on.

Liam is far better written than most husband / landlord characters in porn games. But rom the start he is clearly written in a way that we are not too sympathetic to him.

Liam has never mistreated Sophia. He has not cheated on her (and I gather the dev has elsewhere said that he would not cheat on her). Yes he has worked late and thus has not spent enough time with any of Sophia / Ellie / Dylan. But you could argue that was in the search of paying off loans on the huge new house and paying for their comfortable family lifestyle. And obviously h got too greedy at Casino.

And I will admit that in my current playthrough that Liam has got no action from Sophia when I have had any choice in the matter. I want to see Sophia on board the corruption train ASAP!!

 

[ancienregimele]

I am often amazed at the contrast between some of the game/VN discussions that unfold across various threads on which I often just lurk but sometimes contribute. It's possible to go from somewhere with fans shouting for more bestiality, to this place where people complain at length about the inclusion in the game of blackmail. Most of my F95 postings have concerned AWAM, which still has some of the best renders anywhere & in Sophia the best woman MC. I'm still here (crazy?) after all these years, despite some of the issues surrounding & detracting from the game, which are well established. Throughout that time I've tried to be diplomatic, mostly, because politeness will facilitate discussion. SO, for instance, I will simply state, as I have on several occasions, that "incest doesn't interest me," rather than, 'I find it to be morally & biologically corrupt, puke-inducing, twisted dross of the most perverted kind,' or similar. .......I've never sought to kink-shame anybody.

I wish that my own kinks were given similar respect. I play games for the escapism, not for moral rectitude, or for guidance on what I should like or dislike. I like blackmail in games of this type, even if it's the half-hearted variety which AWAM purveys. Now, in RL I've never blackmailed anyone & wouldn't dream of doing so, even if I had the opportunity. This is fiction folks. No 3D renders were, or will be, harmed in the making of this game. No pixel people will actually suffer because they're 'actors.' There are so many ways to avoid blackmail that I wish the incest could be dodged as effectively, while still retaining the makings of a worthwhile game.

I've lost track of the number of times that statements to the effect that there will be no extraneous violence or rape in this game, have appeared. I've even put similar words to screen myself, now & again. Having been given that information, I carry on playing, knowing that the blackmail is really only there to corrupt the MC & that it won't lead to much. This is the direct opposite of the incest, where we are aware that the whole climax of a major storyline will involve Sophia being shagged by her relatively inexperienced teenaged son. I'm not whinging about that but I am sick of the high moral tone being taken by some in relation to any hint of coercion, blackmail, or Sophia not being in total control of her life. Who's in control of their life????

 

[Deleted member 2914737]

This is first time im playing a female protagonist.I don't know how to feel or have many thoughts on it.Its different.Do u guys prefer female or male?And well my last thoughts here are , perfect story, its so good.Thanks dev!

 

[FdjsEre]

This is first time im playing a female protagonist.I don't know how to feel or have many thoughts on it.Its different.Do u guys prefer female or male?And well my last thoughts here are , perfect story, its so good.Thanks dev!

I've never played a game with a male character. I find them offensive to women. It's not nice to play as a cattleman who, being a chump himself, treats women like store-bought meat.

 

[FdjsEre]

The most erotic scene in the history of video games was when Sam taught Sophia to play the double bass )))
I'm only waiting for the Sam scenes. I don't care about the rest of them. Sam is a cool guy. Rocker, bold, feisty, psychologically mature. He's a real badass.

 

[FdjsEre]

Sam is tougher than the school bullies. Because they are only cheeky, and Sam is both cheeky and clever and kind.

 

[Alley_Cat]

I am often amazed at the contrast between some of the game/VN discussions that unfold across various threads on which I often just lurk but sometimes contribute. It's possible to go from somewhere with fans shouting for more bestiality, to this place where people complain at length about the inclusion in the game of blackmail. Most of my F95 postings have concerned AWAM, which still has some of the best renders anywhere & in Sophia the best woman MC. I'm still here (crazy?) after all these years, despite some of the issues surrounding & detracting from the game, which are well established. Throughout that time I've tried to be diplomatic, mostly, because politeness will facilitate discussion. SO, for instance, I will simply state, as I have on several occasions, that "incest doesn't interest me," rather than, 'I find it to be morally & biologically corrupt, puke-inducing, twisted dross of the most perverted kind,' or similar. .......I've never sought to kink-shame anybody.

I wish that my own kinks were given similar respect. I play games for the escapism, not for moral rectitude, or for guidance on what I should like or dislike. I like blackmail in games of this type, even if it's the half-hearted variety which AWAM purveys. Now, in RL I've never blackmailed anyone & wouldn't dream of doing so, even if I had the opportunity. This is fiction folks. No 3D renders were, or will be, harmed in the making of this game. No pixel people will actually suffer because they're 'actors.' There are so many ways to avoid blackmail that I wish the incest could be dodged as effectively, while still retaining the makings of a worthwhile game.

I've lost track of the number of times that statements to the effect that there will be no extraneous violence or rape in this game, have appeared. I've even put similar words to screen myself, now & again. Having been given that information, I carry on playing, knowing that the blackmail is really only there to corrupt the MC & that it won't lead to much. This is the direct opposite of the incest, where we are aware that the whole climax of a major storyline will involve Sophia being shagged by her relatively inexperienced teenaged son. I'm not whinging about that but I am sick of the high moral tone being taken by some in relation to any hint of coercion, blackmail, or Sophia not being in total control of her life. Who's in control of their life????

One of the things Jack Adams got me thinking about is not so much what it is about a particular storyline that I don't like (for example the slow pace of the Dylan, and by association Aiden route) but what would it take for me to like the storyline. Could have been why I assumed tasks 4 - 8 were being skipped, and task 9 would have been on playable day 13 instead of task 4. I still think with the rate Aiden is going, tasks 4 - 8 are going to be dull and boring, compared what's currently going on in the Ellie and Patricia routes.

People lately have been talking about task 3 and 4, and suggesting that Sophia might go pantiless. But to me that seemed more like a task 10. Realised just now that with my previously assumed timeline, task 10 would have fallen on: playable day 16.

But really, much of what it would take for me to like the Dylan and Sam routes would require a complete rewrite of the game and several changes in personalities. As an example, when Patricia gropes Sophia, she makes no excuses: "Oh, just relax! I'm just holding on to your sexy butt a little bit!" L&P's choice of "holding on to" instead of "groping" is a little weird, but I gather his aptitude in American English may not have been the greatest at this stage. Hell, it still isn't.

Compared to complete denial by Dylan "What? No, I didn't! I mean... I was just pushing you a little harder to help you swing higher." (day 3 on the swing) and even Sam using the excuse of trying to win during the basketball match "Sorry, Mrs. Parker. I' barely noticed that. It just happened cause I was trying to stop you from getting the next 2-point shot! I thought it would be still all right." And Sam is meant to be the nice one.

This is first time im playing a female protagonist.I don't know how to feel or have many thoughts on it.Its different.Do u guys prefer female or male?And well my last thoughts here are , perfect story, its so good.Thanks dev!

I'm almost solely a player of female protagonist lesbian route games now. I have played a couple of male protagonist games, and the way slimey, ugly, and/or incompetent males always seem to get the girl in games in this forum, just because they have a cock, really just feels like I'm being cucked. Which is not for me. Plus women are hot, and smart, and in lesbian scenes there is more pussy and boobs. I might be drunk, but I really don't see the point in arguing for less pussy and boobs.

 

[lockerxx]

This is first time im playing a female protagonist.I don't know how to feel or have many thoughts on it.Its different.Do u guys prefer female or male?And well my last thoughts here are , perfect story, its so good.Thanks dev!

for me is easy Female protagonist i go for the lesbian sex and for males i go for milfs or big boobs.

 

[Alley_Cat]

The two side jobs were around 300 renders and account for around 45% so maybe around 650 in total

Hmm... I had previously thought (since it is meant to be smaller) that this update would be around 400 renders (so smaller than the 470 of the one before that), but it seems to have expanded to more than expected. Which for L&P, will admit, does occasionally happen. I'm just trying to get an estimate now of when we think the next update will drop. But really, as usual, not even L&P knows that at this stage.

 

[L&P's Father-in-Law]

Hmm... I had previously thought (since it is meant to be smaller) that this update would be around 400 renders (so smaller than the 470 of the one before that), but it seems to have expanded to more than expected. Which for L&P, will admit, does occasionally happen. I'm just trying to get an estimate now of when we think the next update will drop. But really, as usual, not even L&P knows that at this stage.

I've been pretty on point with my estimates so allow me:L&P is going to try and get it to end of April, first week of May.