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Did I ever say that Dylan would be the first? Well, I'm not a native speaker, but am I expressing myself that badly? Of course he won't be the first. By the way, L&P has already stated this openly, that it's someone we don't expect.... currently. There is a basic framework of the story. And no one is shaking it. And the twist... yes, the twist was deleted by request and not by pressure of the patrons... but I honestly don't feel like talking about it anymore. Because I can talk with people like you, who do not want to do anything with Dylan it´s like talking to a brick wall.
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I'm not saying it won't happen, I'm just saying it will be shoehorned into the game even though it won't make any sense. And by "any sense" I mean it won't make any sense to me.
We all have our own thoughts/feelings/opinions/impressions of what these characters are really like, and for me Sophia fucking Dylan is in no way possible unless she's already acknowledged that she's ruined her life and she's become horribly dependent on her sexuality to define herself both to herself and to others. To fuck Dylan she'd have to get to the point where she'd let anyone who wants to fuck her fuck her - basically becoming a sex doll - and then, and only then, Dylan gets his shot.
And in my opinion, unless L&P plans hard drug/alcohol dependency as part of this descent, which triggers [whatever you want at this point, really, because we've veered so far off course at this point] Dylan has no shot. That's just a character assassination by the author, which would be an easy choice but a cop out as well. If nothing's off the table and there are no parameters and anything goes then that's not even a remotely interesting character anymore. And that's where she'd have to be to fuck Dylan.
I really, really don't want to read what people have to say about Dylan here, so I'm definitely not willing to pay to seek out more of it.
Not sure why you ended with the "obtuse" dig? I'm not sure what I've ever written here that suggests I'm dull or slow witted or lacking intellect. Not having 100% understanding of everyone on this thread's opinions and the thinking behind how they arrived at them does not make one obtuse.
Someone who has read a single post and chosen to quote it in isolation, rather than present it in the context of all of the posts I've made on the topic of Sophia's downfall (which are several but admittedly not many) would do well, again in my opinion, to hit the pause button and have a quick think before calling a statement obtuse. Not because you should read everything I've written or that it's incumbent upon any of us to take a full appreciation of everyone else's perspective, but because I think one of the overarching principles of a healthy thread is being polite. Calling a statement obtuse ain't that. How does that improve your response? I don't get it. But that's off topic so never mind.
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First off: I have never, ever, ever offered an opinion on who will fuck Sophia first - only very recently that I think Aiden will jump ahead of Sam and Dylan in the the race to Sophia's tender bits. So I'm not sure where you're coming from on the first point.
I don't recall ever commenting on removing "the twist", if I did I don't recall so I probably didn't feel too strongly about it either way.
And, you're not presenting an accurate summary of my opinion of Dylan. It can be summed up in two main components:
First, I don't want anything presented from Dylan's POV (or anyone else's for that matter) because I prefer the developer focus exclusively on Sophia and her POV. L&P is well on track to deliver a master class (as far as erotic/porn VN are concerned, context does matter) on a female MC story. There's tons of teen boys lusting after hot girls, ladies and older women being told from the teen boy's perspective so I'm not especially interested in another version of it. Especially to the extent that it adds development time (the yoga event was done twice and all I learned from Dylan's perspective is that hot chicks are really hot, especially when they are in skin tight clothing and even hotter still when they are naked. ??? That's a POV that ain't worth telling again, especially not in this story).
Second, I don't think, as I see the character of Sophia, which is my own synthesis based on how I process what I read and see when playing this game and based on my in-game choices which are likely not identical to yours, Sophia would ever take Dylan's dick insider her vagina unless she's no longer Sophia, meaning her transformation and degradation is so severe that she's unrecognizable to the character we met in the first few days, even to herself. Therefore, it is my conclusion from my opinion and impressions that if Sophia ever does take Dylan's dick into her vagina it will be because of a conscious choice of the author do decimate the character he created and present a doppelganger in her stead.
I'm not entirely sure that make me a brick wall?
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Then he should drop that route long time ago.Why keep it if won't lead to anything?
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Well, it's just written in a obtuse way. Just dropped in like that, without thinking. Made an assertion that you made up yourself and like so many here who make negative comments about Dylan, are not true. Maybe you are only after "likes" with this quote. Also possible. Definitely get a like from Cat, cold brew, viper and whatever their names are. Yeah!!!
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More to the point - whoever the writer wants. It is, after all, just a work of fiction!Sofia will ride whoever she wants....
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It's not dropped in like that, it's a narrative I've been pushing for quite some time, but fair point it does read that way in isolation. Not sure if calling it obtuse (which is a direct insult) is helpful or constructive, though.
[EDIT: What negative comment did I make about Dylan? Perhaps something lost in translation? I dunno...]
And I'm not sure what I ever said about Dylan that wasn't true? I get things wrong and forget details and misinterpret things all the time and like to be corrected when I do, I enjoy another perspective, so I'm not sure why the nasty tone towards me? It's really hyper aggressive. I'm pursuing likes? That's a very cynical and I'd like to think undeserved judgement. I do not understand why that would be the goal of engaging in a discussion and have no opinion on how many or few likes I get. If I was after likes - actually, I can't speak to that because it's one of those "does not compute" things for me.
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There you go! That's a statement from you that can be used to measure you. And not just a dumb sentence like that: " If Dylan fucks Sophia it will be due to pressure from Patreon supporters and not because it makes any sense whatsoever."
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Ok Talcum we shift down a gear. I understood that sentence for now as I described it. I'm just annoyed by all the stupid comments towards Dylan. And then you come up with the sentence that patrons decide if and when Dylan fucks Sophia. But you seem to be approaching the game very factually and intelligently. Then it was a misunderstanding. I'm sorry about that.
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So I was preparing a mocking and raking rebuke of your "there you go" comment, as if I needed your or anyone else's validation, but then I saw this and think that it's best to put it all aside.
Except that I cannot help but think your extending the olive branch was a sly attempt at getting me to like your post.
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Dylan gonna be BALLS DEEP in Sophia and I'm gonna be feelsgoodman
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At one point in time L&P considered this conspiracy where Dylan and Aiden worked together to blackmail and corrupt Sophia. Aiden would pretend to bully Dylan and Dylan would cry to Mom to get Mom to do "the tasks".
Thankfully that weird twist was abandoned and Dylan was legitimately bullied and Aiden is legitimately blackmailing
Dylan's path remains a mystery. The only way I can see right now how both of them could interact sexually like both
is the exhibitionism (Sophia) / voyeurism (Dylan) way. But that would not satisfy anyone in this forum. Dylan could
just show up anywhere if the player allows it.
I want to be clear, I'm more of a Pro-Dylan, but this route would be the worst of all possible routes for me too.
Because then Dylan would remain the loser he now appears as. The possible scenario in which the mother teaches the son
sexually would be more than sad. And all Dylan haters here would be right that it would be better to let the bus run
over Dylan.
The possibility of Dylan seeing his mother on the motorcycle, trying to confront her, and spying on her in the future
would also be a way as a voyeur, protector and later as a secret participant. Would be just as shit and I think it
was excluded.
In summary, I understand all those who say sex with Dylan was the lowest point in Sophia's development at the moment.
And I hope the developer still has surprises ready to teach you better.
is the exhibitionism (Sophia) / voyeurism (Dylan) way. But that would not satisfy anyone in this forum. Dylan could
just show up anywhere if the player allows it.
I want to be clear, I'm more of a Pro-Dylan, but this route would be the worst of all possible routes for me too.
Because then Dylan would remain the loser he now appears as. The possible scenario in which the mother teaches the son
sexually would be more than sad. And all Dylan haters here would be right that it would be better to let the bus run
over Dylan.
The possibility of Dylan seeing his mother on the motorcycle, trying to confront her, and spying on her in the future
would also be a way as a voyeur, protector and later as a secret participant. Would be just as shit and I think it
was excluded.
In summary, I understand all those who say sex with Dylan was the lowest point in Sophia's development at the moment.
And I hope the developer still has surprises ready to teach you better.
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More than just abandoned, L&P actually rewrote the whole thing so it wouldn’t even show up on a new play through. It’s path-specific so even on an older play through/version you may not have seen it.
Removing it does change the Aiden and Dylan characters and stories substantially, whether for the better or worse we’ll never know. But that’s a good thing, because knowing and being able to compare would mean two paths, one where Dylan is a conspirator and one where he isn’t. So many more parallel events and renders. Dodging a bullet imho.
Is it possible that Dylan could discover Aiden's blackmail of his mother and set in to action him trying to save his mom? The Dylan event that is supposed to follow the Aiden event has been said to be somewhat important to the update. Surey Sofia being rescued my Dylan or him at least trying to save her would let her (and us) see him in a new light and be a catalyst for her attraction to him. At least that way she wouldn't be completely broken metally to sleep with him.
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That is a topic of conversation and theory on his patreon page. However, I not sure how the hero thing will work out. It seems that the defense class he's taking is going to be geared toward the side story. So if he were to play some hero role, it would most likely be in another manner.