VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.215f] [Lust & Passion]

[GingerSweetGirl]

I think adding time skips is a good idea. Otherwise Sofia's corruption would be unrealistic. I mean in last playable days of the game she should be corrupted enough to have sex with other men and women, this will not happen in a month. When finally she cheats on her husband it should be atleast about 6 months after their arrival on San Alejo.

I don't think you'll find anyone in this thread who disagrees with you. You may not be aware, but L&P has said that sometime between Playable Day 16 and 19 (I'm paraphrasing here) Sophia will have her first extramarital sex. That means that, without a time skip, we're about a week away from her cheating. From where I sit, a lot has to happen in the next couple of days in order for her to be ready to cheat. It stretches believability.

The time-lapse is a good idea from a realistic standpoint. The problem or challenge he may face is plot holes in the story. Right now, my biggest concern is the male cast in the game and being so far behind the corruption point, I have a feeling he's going to have to step on the gas to play catch up and then where going to have gaps in the story.

The game's fundamental structure is flawed. That isn't really meant as a criticism of L&P because I see it from a lot of games and I think it's something that developers have to learn from. The game needs to similtaneously step on the gas, while stretching things out. Have fun finding the balancing act on that one. Each update needs to do more to advance the story and relationships because the pacing is painfully slow. Some storylines and characters only appear once a year. But the overall timeline needs to elongated because it's hard to believe all of this happening in roughly 30 days. Time skips would cause problems with certain storylines (mostly Aiden) but I think that could be accounted for.

Really though, the core problem with the story is that Sophia started off too sexually conservative for a game with such a tight time frame. Either she should have been more sexually liberal or we needed a longer timeframe to accommodate the corruption. It's a lesson for the future.

 

[Bane71]

This time, he did not post the Sofia / Dylan teaser citing Patreon's strict rules. But earlier similar teasers were published ... Nothing is clear. The good news is that we will find out soon enough.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

Just a thought Dr.Fapalot but this would be the 4th massage in 4 different locations.
Sam with Sophia, backyard.
At the health spa
Foot massage in the bath with Dylan.
Zac gave Sophia a shoulder massage when she visited Alyssa.

In total, yes. But I was counting on individual scenes and who's in them. You basically have 2 upper body massages and a foot massage for the men. The health spa was more for lesbian points.

 

[Old Dog]

In total, yes. But I was counting on individual scenes and who's in them. You basically have 2 upper body massages and a foot massage for the men. The health spa was more for lesbian points.

I guess Aiden will be on the list for giving Sophia a massage then

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

The game's fundamental structure is flawed. That isn't really meant as a criticism of L&P because I see it from a lot of games and I think it's something that developers have to learn from. The game needs to similtaneously step on the gas, while stretching things out. Have fun finding the balancing act on that one. Each update needs to do more to advance the story and relationships because the pacing is painfully slow. Some storylines and characters only appear once a year. But the overall timeline needs to elongated because it's hard to believe all of this happening in roughly 30 days. Time skips would cause problems with certain storylines (mostly Aiden) but I think that could be accounted for.

Really though, the core problem with the story is that Sophia started off too sexually conservative for a game with such a tight time frame. Either she should have been more sexually liberal or we needed a longer timeframe to accommodate the corruption. It's a lesson for the future.

When you consider that he started Sophia's character as a faithful woman instead of partly corrupted, as you stated, and you only have 30 Days to tell it, then yes. He would need to step on the gas, but as I said, he risks creating plot holes which can cause the reader to scratch their heads and say to themself, "HOW IN THE HELL DOES THAT MAKE SENSE????!!!" If he is going to time-lapse the story he needs to make sure it makes sense on the other end, but that means he would have to look at all the other paths too. To me, that's going to be a headache.

 

[Bane71]

I don't think you'll find anyone in this thread who disagrees with you. You may not be aware, but L&P has said that sometime between Playable Day 16 and 19 (I'm paraphrasing here) Sophia will have her first extramarital sex. That means that, without a time skip, we're about a week away from her cheating. From where I sit, a lot has to happen in the next couple of days in order for her to be ready to cheat. It stretches believability.



The game's fundamental structure is flawed. That isn't really meant as a criticism of L&P because I see it from a lot of games and I think it's something that developers have to learn from. The game needs to similtaneously step on the gas, while stretching things out. Have fun finding the balancing act on that one. Each update needs to do more to advance the story and relationships because the pacing is painfully slow. Some storylines and characters only appear once a year. But the overall timeline needs to elongated because it's hard to believe all of this happening in roughly 30 days. Time skips would cause problems with certain storylines (mostly Aiden) but I think that could be accounted for.

Really though, the core problem with the story is that Sophia started off too sexually conservative for a game with such a tight time frame. Either she should have been more sexually liberal or we needed a longer timeframe to accommodate the corruption. It's a lesson for the future.

I agree with you!
It was probably necessary to plan for gaps in time so that at least 6 months passed in game time, which changed Sofia and led her to those events that the storylines hint at.
In what we have now, time is overly compressed and the events do not look real. But, taking into account the conventions and the fact that this is just a game, I believe that this is acceptable and forgivable for the first project.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

I guess Aiden will be on the list for giving Sophia a massage then

Hmm, I not sure. I think that one is going to be a more sexual theme without touching. I'm speculating here, but I think that one is going to fall in line with a striptease. I think the touching with Aiden will come in the next event which I think is Gameday 25 (Playable Day 18.)

 

[Old Dog]

Hmm, I not sure. I think that one is going to be a more sexual theme without touching. I'm speculating here, but I think that one is going to fall in line with a striptease. I think the touching with Aiden will come in the next event which I think is Gameday 25 (Playable Day 18.)

I was joking mate.
There is only so much that you can do involving clothing so I would expect some touching/foreplay and partial/full nudity during the Aiden tasks.

 

[hzjujk]

Maybe it just has to do with the Sam event. Sophia could not be quite sure what to wear for this event. Perhaps because she is considering getting Sam's attention against a whole bunch of young girls during the concert. Since Dylan was so stylish at the bikini event she could ask him. Dylan could outgrow himself, not complain that he can't be there, and advise her within a small fashion show.
The "wide belt" she wanted to wear on her visit to the prison, without a bra, would be the right choice Dylan could suggest.

 

[Hornyman2]

next update ????

 

[Aldon Joe aj]

next update ????

Maybe may last week or June 1st week release

 

[Old Dog]

Maybe it just has to do with the Sam event. Sophia could not be quite sure what to wear for this event. Perhaps because she is considering getting Sam's attention against a whole bunch of young girls during the concert. Since Dylan was so stylish at the bikini event she could ask him. Dylan could outgrow himself, not complain that he can't be there, and advise her within a small fashion show.
The "wide belt" she wanted to wear on her visit to the prison, without a bra, would be the right choice Dylan could suggest.

Sophia rocker. Ellie like a sexy Teenager. And Patricia, well, like Patricia

 

[hzjujk]

Sophia rocker. Ellie like a sexy Teenager. And Patricia, well, like Patricia

Yes, maybe Aiden will leave the motorcycle outfit to Sophia. She would look like a motorcycle bride and break a sweat during the concert. (Of course it's just nonsense on my part)

 

[xxxorro]

Yes, maybe Aiden will leave the motorcycle outfit to Sophia. She would look like a motorcycle bride and break a sweat during the concert. (Of course it's just nonsense on my part)

The idea of Dylan helping Sophia to choose the dress for the concert makes sense. It would be a bit of a deja-vu wrt the breakfast in bed of the day before but it can go a little bit further than that.
Also, if he is on the cuckold path, he could convince Sophia to wear something more sexy/revealing. (which will be a mess development-wise for the concert as it requires to render the scenes twice for the different dresses).
Anyway this will give some sort of continuity with the previous events.

In any case, massage or another dressing event, I would expect that he would lay the basis for the upcoming events, PD 13 is quite dense in Dylan's events. So I expect he might propose something to Sophia to go further in his plots. There is an event in the evening of PD 13 for sure, followed by an optional one and preceded by (presumably) a visit to the salon (Claire and Marie event).

 

[ancienregimele]

The idea of Dylan helping Sophia to choose the dress for the concert makes sense. It would be a bit of a deja-vu wrt the breakfast in bed of the day before but it can go a little bit further than that.
Also, whether he is on the cuckold path or not, he could convince Sophia to wear something more sexy. (which will be a mess development-wise for the concert as it requires to render the scenes twice for the different dresses).
Anyway this will give some sort of continuity with the previous events.

In any case, massage or another dressing event, I would expect that he would lay the basis for the upcoming events, PD 13 is quite dense in Dylan's events. So I expect he might propose something to Sophia to go further in his plots. There is an event in the evening of PD 13 for sure, followed by an optional one and preceded by (presumably) a visit to the salon (Claire and Marie event).

As long as she doesn't wear anything RED. We don't need Sam suddenly taking a break from the thrash metal, or whatever style his band has, to do a cover of "Lady in Red" for 'a very special lay-dee.' Anything like this, just no, no...

 

[hzjujk]

As long as she doesn't wear anything RED. We don't need Sam suddenly taking a break from the thrash metal, or whatever style his band has, to do a cover of "Lady in Red" for 'a very special lay-dee.' Anything like this, just no, no...

What? Are you not a romantic? But that surprises me now.

 

[Alley_Cat]

As long as she doesn't wear anything RED. We don't need Sam suddenly taking a break from the thrash metal, or whatever style his band has, to do a cover of "Lady in Red" for 'a very special lay-dee.' Anything like this, just no, no...

I believe it's just a rock band. Which I think is the dullest thing L&P could have chosen.

 

[hzjujk]

I believe it's just a rock band. Which I think is the dullest thing L&P could have chosen.

The type of band doesn't matter. Anyway, I bet more of an Elli / Patricia event in the ladies room during the show, and Sophia is watching. And a Sophia / Sam event after the show (and Patrica is watching ).

 

[Talcum Powder]

... as I said, he risks creating plot holes which can cause the reader to scratch their heads ...

You say that as if plot holes are a future risk and not already present (the most obvious one being that Sophia would entertain the notion that any girl would be interested in her twerp of a son).

 

[Talcum Powder]

The type of band doesn't matter. Anyway, I bet more of an Elli / Patricia event in the ladies room during the show, and Sophia is watching. And a Sophia / Sam event after the show (and Patrica is watching ).

Sure, the type of band doesn't matter, per se, but I will credit L&P for making considered, well informed and intentional decisions in this regard. I think there's something in the fact that Sam also plays the cello, which indicates he's received some (if not a lot) of classical training, which would suggest a fairly deep understanding and appreciation for the structure of music and composition and arrangement. Wouldn't it be a pleasant surprise if it's a calypso/funk/reggae fusion band with steel drums and a mega brass section? Now that would be something unexpected and would provide L&P the requisite degree of difficulty to satisfy his ego.

And of course there will be just enough naughtiness going on around the fringes to offset the disappointment of a less then satisfying ending event with Sam and Sophia. I still like the car wash idea but don't see that happening...