VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.215f] [Lust & Passion]

[sphynks80]

56 points

a cheat mode patch link is provided in the first page of this thread to adjust points as high as you want.

 

[Deleted member 1023239]

56 points

how do you managed to earn 56 dylan point, i start a new game multiple times and i ended with 43-44 did i missed something?

 

[Alley_Cat]

how do you managed to earn 56 dylan point, i start a new game multiple times and i ended with 43-44 did i missed something?

You can't earn 56 points. You have to cheat to do the Dylan event.

 

[Old Dog]

how do you managed to earn 56 dylan point, i start a new game multiple times and i ended with 43-44 did i missed something?

The game is bugged concerning the points system as I had points lower than what they should of been so I had to use the cheat to continue

 

[Scarlet56]

Anyway, whatever the V0.130 events, I liked the fact that Sophia made her decisions on her own for once. It’s nice.
Sorry L&P but I don't buy for once: it's the alcohol that makes her do that.
The class lasts more than 2 hours.
The little glass of Chardonnay has not worked for a long time.

 

[Scarlet56]

The game is bugged concerning the points system as I had points lower than they should of been so I had to use the cheat to continue

Yes, I had 42 points and I recounted all the possible points with Dylan, it does not reach 54.
42.

 

[nexer]

is Sophia's consent required ..? even in a transgressive stuff like an erotic game? still with this damned politically correct ...? Really...

Consent is important to keep the story realistic.
After the scene with Aiden it's even more important. Why? Because Sophia has to choose: her own safety, possible rape in the future, and your son's safety.
But your son's safety can be ensured by sending him to boarding school.

 

[Deleted member 1023239]

Didn't learn self defense = Cuckold Route of dylan
Learn Self Defense = make dylan alpha male

it makes me worries why should we let sophia to be gang fucked with those hobo's

Anyway, whatever the V0.130 events, I liked the fact that Sophia made her decisions on her own for once. It’s nice.
Sorry L&P but I don't buy for once: it's the alcohol that makes her do that.
The class lasts more than 2 hours.
The little glass of Chardonnay has not worked for a long time.

it's not the alcohol, alcohol makes the true nature of sophia, in dylan route without the alcohol she allowed her son to grope her on the ass, and allowed him to see her boobs, feels a fabric of her bikini's, jerking in front of her and even make erotic pose for him

 

[nexer]

I would love to see Aiden make her wear this with no bra or panties. Has anyone put Sophia in this outfit on the fan art page?
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Next Monday, a day without classes for her. I don't see Sophia wearing that at school.

 

[Deleted member 2183629]

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[armion82]

I don't think much of the comparisons based on images per time period. There are simply too much differences in the quality and also in the number of images created per scene between different games.

The main problem with L&P is clearly in the project planning. After 4 years, just a little more than a third of the planned game days are finished and at the same time the interval L&P needs for the completion of further game days explodes. Even if he would double the number of images created per day, it would still take him forever to finish this game.

Do you really believe L&P will still be working on this game in 20-30 years? There are simply too many side stories, too many characters and too many repetitions of events that have already been told. For example, it's difficult to count the number of events the story follows Sophia through the inner dialogue in which she decides whether or whether not to show her breasts.

Why the hell does Sophia have to have three jobs, one would be quite enough. Why is there not one but three black mail stories in this game? These are the questions that answers would make this project achievable. The point is about L&P being unable to omit unnecessary elements from form his game. He drowns in a completely misunderstood perception of how to make a story seem realistic.

We are extremely lucky that first 7-8 days of the game were released in one year.
From day 8 we are getting more and more renders but each day is taking longer and longer.Now it seems that day 12 will take much more than anyone was expecting.The most pessimistic ones(from september/october 2020) were 11-12 months,but even they are way too optimistic.Now I am pretty sure day 12 will take more than 1 year.
I really can't see him working on the game another 10 years.
And we are heading faster and faster to more than 15 years.

 

[dolfe67]

Consent is important to keep the story realistic.
After the scene with Aiden it's even more important. Why? Because Sophia has to choose: her own safety, possible rape in the future, and your son's safety.
But your son's safety can be ensured by sending him to boarding school.

This game is not more realistic than the others of the same vein, just has a longer build up. And it's fine it would be extremely boring otherwise. So don't use that argument

 

[Poser_Voyeur]

After this event, I think not just Bennett and Subway Station, but most of the storyline is now strange and unrealistic.

For me the VN is unrealistic at it's core. It not only tried to depict the corruption of a demure faithful wife in ONE MONTH in game time but additionally shows her as a mother having sexual relations with both her teenage children. Such a premise is always going to unrealistic and a fantasy. So SOME suspension of belief is required.

So with that proviso I think it is fair that L&P is at least trying to present a more realistic pace of corruption than most porn games / VN. I agree with the Subway Station scene - I avoided that scene as it seemed stupid when Sophia could simply jump in her car and did nt feel as if it was taking the story forward. And I have already commented about the issues with 2nd side job, the sex ed of home tutor kids.

So I do give L&P credit for trying to aim at realism, even if he does nt always quite manage it.

 

[Tennyson@]

I don't think this game is now "realistic"
After 2nd job event
No teacher on her first day use its students as model to demonstrate masturbation
Even after 1st job event
She promised them to wear that nurse outfit(revealing one ) in there next meet
Concerning to Aiden event after what Aiden just made her do it she should report him and send Dylan to boarding school Dylan would be safe and she would no longer be blackmailed this would be more realistic option(maybe L&P present an option in 4th task to stop the blackmail)but it will definitely end in humiliation what if Dylan,Liam found about art event they would be disgusted
So yeah Aiden has already broked Sophia to some extent

 

[roro]

You've got some false statements/opinions written as facts.

1. you don't get anything except for what is promised by the creator for whatever level of patronage you're in (which he has the right to change at any given time)
That doesn't happen with L&P. Not only patreon goal promises are ignored, he doesn't even fulfill tier promises. For instance legend patrons don't get:

• Your name mention in the credits
• You get to vote for future game topics
• Access to some hot scenes of future releases

2. Take all Daz3d based games here on f95 and calculate the average of their renders to days in production ratio
You get the top games out there, do that ratio and then come back to us and tell us he isn't a slow af developer. Keep in mind that even a 2 render/day difference in a baseline of 5/6 is a big difference.

3. That apply mostly on gifted and perfectionist people.
It's time to end the charade. L&P isn't a perfectionist. He has a great talent for rendering to which he worked for over the last 4 years. Just check the first renders and you'll see they are at the level of anyone starting.
Perfectionist people try to perfect every aspect of their work, including development. They don't pick and choose.

4. For the first part - on the contrary. Updates have become larger, and thats one of the issues some have with L&P's methods.
Fuckin wrong again. Updates went from 1 day to half a day to a third of a day now. Development time has gone from 6 months to 4 months back to 5/6 months therefore more time to provide less content and less story. The number of render means shit if the story does not advance. The bride event did 0 for the story (specially the part with liam), the same with the trip to nowhere with Aiden and the story with Dylan. Story gained 0 from stuff he took 2 months to work with. Again Perfectionist people understand their flaws and work on them, L&P just makes it worse.


5. Take 30 days of graphics cards issue and you'll get 7.2.
Blatant lie. There was no 30 days of graphics card issue. Jan 13 the gpu issue started, he still did some rendering but the fix was found when he bought new GPUs on January 30. It was 17 days (at worse) of lower output, not a complete stall and not 30 days.
Maybe before you tell someone else to speak with facts you should probably check them yourself.


As for .6 and .7, they are opinions and anyone can have theirs.

Either you're really confused by your hatred to L&P or you didn't really payed attention.

1. "That doesn't happen with L&P. Not only patreon goal promises are ignored, he doesn't even fulfill tier promises"
Never said it happens with L&P. If you search enough, you'll find a post I made that criticize L&P exactly on this. But be fair, we did vote on some polls, and he never said there will be a poll for every update.

2. If you think only top tier games sets the industry norme, no problem, take only top tier games (you know milfy city and dual family are top tier games, right?). But to normalize quality, make a poll to give each game a quality rank between 1 and 10. The ratio were looking for is quality*renders/days. And no, 2 out of 5 or 6 isn't a big difference, and it certainly not "far from half of the industry norm"

3. You are definitely not familiar with perfectionists. Don't know about you, but that's a big part of my profession.
"Just check the first renders and you'll see they are at the level of anyone starting". That's not true for our current time (imo), and it certainly isn't true for the games we had 4 years ago. Sure there were better renders at the time, but L&P's first release renders were better than most (I'll say 80-90%) of the games 4 years ago. And what you're implying is perfectionist people are better than anyone else even when they are total beginners, and that's nonsense.
"Perfectionist people try to perfect every aspect of their work, including development. They don't pick and choose." That's just not true, and I dont really need to give examples. There are many types of perfectionism and that disorder is within a scale and not 0 or 1 only. It usually comes with some other disorders which L&P demonstrates in his replies (I bet Drfappalot still remembers what happened when he criticized Liam for the dept...). Moreover, I never said it is a fact and I specifically said it's my theory.

4. No, that's not fuckin wrong. When Turret said updates became smaller, he could specifically say he means it as a part of a gameday. When someone reads it, the 1st thing that comes to mind is number of renders. And you know what, that statement (Turret's) isn't true even when you look at what part of a day he's delivering. If I remember correctly, day 9 was built upon 3 updates. And there's a not so small of a chance that the horse riding day would be a 1 or 2 updates day since it's only 1 event day. But that doesn't really matter, it's pretty obvious that as time progresses, a choice based VN will become heavier with each day.

No it isn't, but it wasn't accurate either. Jan 11 is the day we were informed about the cards change, and the 10 days before were dedicated to rest/story revisions. So the correct number is 6.76. Even if you take down the renders he made with the defective cards, that's closer to his normal pace than the 3-5 number.

 

[nexer]

This game is not more realistic than the others of the same vein, just has a longer build up. And it's fine it would be extremely boring otherwise. So don't use that argument

In that case what are we commenting here? Play the new update and adios until the next one, let's see what the dev comes up with. 3000 pages of comments are backed up by this.
By your logic, what are you still doing here? Any comment is irrelevant.

It's also possible some bestiality for the next updates. Surely on Sunday these horses will have a good time
It's fiction. Right?

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

5-4-9-1
to me it does not work with the numeric keypad. but only with the number above the letters

 

[Poser_Voyeur]

Anyway, whatever the V0.130 events, I liked the fact that Sophia made her decisions on her own for once. It’s nice.
Sorry L&P but I don't buy for once: it's the alcohol that makes her do that.
The class lasts more than 2 hours.
The little glass of Chardonnay has not worked for a long time.

I think it does reduce her inhibitions slightly, and together with the fact that she starts enjoying the posing, it puts her in that classic corruption trap of "well I have gone this far so I guess one more small step won't matter".

My one criticism of that route was that Aiden was too brutish as Ares. It would have been more erotic if that had been done more subtly.

 

[Deleted member 1023239]

5-4-9-1
to me it does not work with the numeric keypad. but only with the muneri above the letters

it does not compatible with android either, i have to pair wireless keyboard in order to complete the mini games, it would be nice if he used on screen mouse click as a part of mini games

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

My one criticism of that route was that Aiden was too brutish as Ares. It would have been more erotic if that had been done more subtly.

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