VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.215f] [Lust & Passion]

[BSoda]

The creator is collecting 3500/month so that would be like cutting off his nose to spite his face and a foolish business decision.

Well...if you subtract Patreon's fee, payments from Patreons that fall through and further assume that he really is paying taxes on his income, it leaves him with around ~1.4k Euros or so per month.

While this is surely a livable single household income, even in Germany (especially for a student), it's not really a lot. Especially if he gets his diploma. Entry level academia jobs in Germany easily pay twice as much.

...and what's probably a lot more important: despite all, these jobs are a lot more reliable than depending on Patreon which may obliterate your livelihood in a flash with the next update to their TOS.

 

[Radoslaw Wolf]

Frankly, at some point I thought the moderators became touchy recently, scolding people for their remarks. But I'm starting to get their stance now.. For f**k's sake, people - if you don't like given title, the way it's constructed, the pace it's progressing - just avoid it, find something else for yourself; there's a plethora of options here! And, even more, stop counting someone's income and tell them what to do with it - this is as low as it can be.. If you know how and can do better, take the action and do it your fu**ing self. Thank you.

 

[farrah]

Frankly, at some point I thought the moderators became touchy recently, scolding people for their remarks. But I'm starting to get their stance now.. For f**k's sake, people - if you don't like given title, the way it's constructed, the pace it's progressing - just avoid it, find something else for yourself; there's a plethora of options here! And, even more, stop counting someone's income and tell them what to do with it - this is as low as it can be.. If you know how and can do better, take the action and do it your fu**ing self. Thank you.

And it's funny, when people who never even paid the dev are something demands.

 

[momojean]

I think most of people liked this game since the first build. especially people who don't mind slow path. it started with a good storyline, nice renders and exciting teasing even if there was no sexual content. personally I expected it to be the most popular one since the dev promised the best realistic game ever. but now and after almost one year from the first build I can say that this game is nothing but a big big fiasco (I know there's too much shitty games around. but I said fiasco for this one because of the high level of expectations). I think the dev is now focusing on stretching the story by putting more and more useless characters and a big amount of dialogues and side stories in order to reach the 30 releases he promised. forgetting that people even if they like the slow path they can't wait and support the game 2 years to see the first kiss or the first caress. We saw some good teases on the first and second updates and we thought that logically the game will progress and develop some para-sexual scenes on the next updates. but in the contrary it regressed and put nothing on the two last updates...which was desappointing for most of the supporters and likers. you can't blame them when the dev promised 10 000 renders and they got updates with less than 100 renders and with no tease and no sex. I think the problem with this game is that the dev promised too much and asked for too much money since the first release...putting the bar of players expectations level very very high. but after one year of development people noticed that there's no real development but dialogues and side stories. I think the dev has to deeply re-think his game strategy and interact with people who are playing his game because everybody noticed that he's loosing supporters on patreon since the last update and that's dangerous for him.

 

[Mikk88]

I think Patricia liked Sophie before. And the two last scene confirmed this, she always interesting with her sister.

I also think so

 

[LucasDigne]

I mean dev making a good job i'm extreamly exited bout nex upd. But i guesse it is what it is, full story with many sex scence woul be in 19.

 

[Hentai_Lover00]

well I'm playing game cause I love doing something and little slow pace is nice. if i need fast pace there are tons of porns over internet juts watch one of them

 

[Radoslaw Wolf]

I think most of people liked this game since the first build. especially people who don't mind slow path. it started with a good storyline, nice renders and exciting teasing even if there was no sexual content. personally I expected it to be the most popular one since the dev promised the best realistic game ever. but now and after almost one year from the first build I can say that this game is nothing but a big big fiasco (I know there's too much shitty games around. but I said fiasco for this one because of the high level of expectations). I think the dev is now focusing on stretching the story by putting more and more useless characters and a big amount of dialogues and side stories in order to reach the 30 releases he promised. forgetting that people even if they like the slow path they can't wait and support the game 2 years to see the first kiss or the first caress. We saw some good teases on the first and second updates and we thought that logically the game will progress and develop some para-sexual scenes on the next updates. but in the contrary it regressed and put nothing on the two last updates...which was desappointing for most of the supporters and likers. you can't blame them when the dev promised 10 000 renders and they got updates with less than 100 renders and with no tease and no sex. I think the problem with this game is that the dev promised too much and asked for too much money since the first release...putting the bar of players expectations level very very high. but after one year of development people noticed that there's no real development but dialogues and side stories. I think the dev has to deeply re-think his game strategy and interact with people who are playing his game because everybody noticed that he's loosing supporters on patreon since the last update and that's dangerous for him.

I agree. I also believe he will regain the supporters after two-three updates from now, when things start to happen.
To the legendary 'no sexual content' - it deeply depends on individual perception. To me personally, the violin lesson and basketball game were sexual as hell! Sole fact that pretty prude mother does not flash tits or stroke her own son or his buddy just like that does not mean there is no sexuality around. How poor must be one's vision of life and sense of reality to even think this way..

 

[Bunta]

Anyone knows when will be the next update?

 

[lockerxx]

Anyone knows when will be the next update?

no offcial date so far.MY Guess mid september.

 

[momojean]

I agree. I also believe he will regain the supporters after two-three updates from now, when things start to happen.
To the legendary 'no sexual content' - it deeply depends on individual perception. To me personally, the violin lesson and basketball game were sexual as hell! Sole fact that pretty prude mother does not flash tits or stroke her own son or his buddy just like that does not mean there is no sexuality around. How poor must be one's vision of life and sense of reality to even think this way..

I'm totally agree that the cello lesson and the basketball session were very hot and I was really satisfied with them. my point is that after these scenes story might progressively show more without rushing things. but unfortunately it regressed and we didn't see anything similar in later updates. and I think that dev is not linear with his story. there's some incomprehensible inconsistencies . no body can explane the fact that such a prude woman allow the neighbor son stay behind her, stick to her butt and even being touchy...but she's too shy to wear a bikini in her own swimming pool in front of her son. I've the impression that the dev is moving forward for a moment, and then backwards.

 

[tigers]

Sexual scenes doesnt always mean full on sex. Look at Humbling Experience, the first real sex came in after 7th or 8th update but every previous scene was hot and sexy as hell. This game also needs more sexy scenes. The first few updates had some nice progression with the movers and Sam's route, but it seems to be regressing. One step forward and two backwards. We need some 'voluntary' scenes where Sophia 'volunteers' or 'takes the initiative' in driving the sexy, rather than being attributed to accidental shirt bursts or accidental slips.

 

[DrDougDoesDOS]

I wouldn't use Big Brother as a good example of success to failure. The developer created a monster of a character very early in the game that everybody hated on and this created a ton of friction. Some people liked that character but most hated and the Story had a dramatic switch as a result of pressure. The Story lost its rhyme and reason from there and with the pressure of the "No Incest" hand of doom looming the developer gave up.

So many developer's have just given up on games and tried to build new ones oblivious to the fact that they have broken any trust with Patron's. L&P is now paying for that lack of trust, even though it was not him who abandoned "The Humbling Experience", "Big Brother", "Katie's Corruption", etc. etc. and with other developer's stalling any release for 6 months too with the "Blue Balling" Story lines (Do I need to name them?), this also piles pressure on L&P to deliver.

I'm very impressed with L&P's dedication and level of production and I hope he delivers without any burn out, but yes, many have wizened up to Developers and he needs to be wary of this. Let's all look forward to the next update and hope its a step forward not a shuffle or side step

 

[armion82]

Sexual scenes doesnt always mean full on sex. Look at Humbling Experience, the first real sex came in after 7th or 8th update but every previous scene was hot and sexy as hell. This game also needs more sexy scenes. The first few updates had some nice progression with the movers and Sam's route, but it seems to be regressing. One step forward and two backwards. We need some 'voluntary' scenes where Sophia 'volunteers' or 'takes the initiative' in driving the sexy, rather than being attributed to accidental shirt bursts or accidental slips.

Damn right.JOHN show how the wife can be a more daring

 

[Radoslaw Wolf]

I'm totally agree that the cello lesson and the basketball session were very hot and I was really satisfied with them. my point is that after these scenes story might progressively show more without rushing things. but unfortunately it regressed and we didn't see anything similar in later updates. and I think that dev is not linear with his story. there's some incomprehensible inconsistencies . no body can explane the fact that such a prude woman allow the neighbor son stay behind her, stick to her butt and even being touchy...but she's too shy to wear a bikini in her own swimming pool in front of her son. I've the impression that the dev is moving forward for a moment, and then backwards.

Nobody except for the creator, who specifically said that long before the most recent updates: there will be no progression on the next playable day, and it's being split into two parts because reasons (vacation?). He even specified when exactly we should expect the progression. Also, just as in real life, sometimes things go slower, sometimes faster.. that's just the way it is and I am perfectly fine with that. If I were not, you wouldn't be reading this..

 

[lockhear]

Damn right.JOHN show how the wife can be a more daring

I've read "John Snow" :closedeyesmile:

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[roflfoptor]

Also, just as in real life, sometimes things go slower, sometimes faster..

That's why stories don't include the days when nothing important to the narrative happened. L&P kind of shot himself in the foot by using the "Day X" framework if he wanted the story to progress realistically.

 

[momojean]

Nobody except for the creator

have I to remind you that the dev is not doing a game for himself? he is making it for people who are supposed to pay for it if they're pleased. shortly, he give a game to receive money. Now, if people are not happy with his work they will withdraw they support exactly as it is happening right now. that's why i said that it's a good game and he has to deeply re-think its strategy if he wants to recover the infatuation he got at the beginning .

 

[Radoslaw Wolf]

have I to remind you that the dev is not doing a game for himself? he is making it for people who are supposed to pay for it if they're pleased. shortly, he give a game to receive money. Now, if people are not happy with his work they will withdraw they support exactly as it is happening right now. that's why i said that it's a good game and he has to deeply re-think its strategy if he wants to recover the infatuation he got at the beginning .

True. Still not a reason to repeat the same comments over and over again.. Especially by the folks who never sent a penny to any creator..

 

[nikos32]

hey guys just finished the game.Is there a possibility that you might know when the next update is coming?