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hzjujk

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I enjoy reading comments that show attention to detail in the game. I enjoy it all the more when someone responds thoughtfully to my comments. You make some good points here that tie nicely into a rational conclusion. May I ask what you noticed in the events so far that could develop into an interesting development between the Parkers and Andy & Cathy? In spite of my predilection for what is represented in the Sam route I believe that the Andy & Cathy route holds encouraging promise as well.
In short, what possible romantic scenarios do you envision between the Parkers and Andy & Cathy (besides the swinging option already discussed)?
If the invitation from Cathy is not to be used to organize the bachelorette parties, the event, because this is a porn game, could be used as the beginning of a causal chain for a swinger event. Others suspected that too. I thought that was pretty unlikely so far. Both Sophia and Liam have not given me any recognizable indication that they are interested in such an event. Liam is more of the jealous type. He wants to notice the other his wife, it makes him appear more glamorous, but he definitely doesn't want to share her. Even if he likes the idea of having sex with Cathy, he will not be able to enjoy the fact that Sophia has sex with Andrew in the next room. Sophia herself is more open sexually, but in my opinion it would be a long way for her. Becoming a swinger requires a lot of trust and time if you don't want to endanger your relationship. If L&P wants to hold on to its "conditional realism", it is difficult to convey it credibly. Now this is a porn game with clearly defined goals and no deep psychological analysis and a remark from the developer comes to my mind who once wrote "Sophia will have the first extramarital sex with a man that nobody expects". Now after this invitation it seems to me possible that Andrew could be this man. But the timeline for Sophia and Liam would actually be too short to go from 0% to 100% in just three or four days and the route would be complicated.
It could be suggested to go out separately with the sponsor de each other. If Liam makes the mistake of agreeing immediately, and Sophia has just cleared his gambling debts, she could agree out of disappointment.
 
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Rudrig

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Can you use your scroll wheel on your mouse to rewind the scenes before you get that option? If not, you may need to restart from another save point or see if you can use the Ren'py interface to jump to that scene and let it play out.
Well, I tryed few times to rewind, the earlier save point loading too, I think I'm not keen to start to learn RenPy now (have no idea about that interface, I only used the unren a few times) so I think I'll wait for L&P to rectify this mistake of his. If not, I will cancel my patreon with him I suppose.

PS: cretin me :) I just found that damn phone in the corner :)
 

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If the invitation from Cathy is not to be used to organize the bachelorette parties, the event, because this is a porn game, could be used as the beginning of a causal chain for a swinger event. Others suspected that too. I thought that was pretty unlikely so far. Both Sophia and Liam have not given me any recognizable indication that they are interested in such an event. Liam is more of the jealous type. He wants to notice the other his wife, it makes him appear more glamorous, but he definitely doesn't want to share her. Even if he likes the idea of having sex with Cathy, he will not be able to enjoy the fact that Sophia has sex with Andrew in the next room. Sophia herself is more open sexually, but in my opinion it would be a long way for her. Becoming a swinger requires a lot of trust and time if you don't want to endanger your relationship. If L&P wants to hold on to its "conditional realism", it is difficult to convey it credibly. Now this is a porn game with clearly defined goals and no deep psychological analysis and a remark from the developer comes to my mind who once wrote "Sophia will have the first extramarital sex with a man that nobody expects". Now after this invitation it seems to me possible that Andrew could be this man. But the timeline for Sophia and Liam would actually be too short to go from 0% to 100% in just three or four days and the route would be complicated.
It could be suggested to go out separately with the sponsor de each other. If Liam makes the mistake of agreeing immediately, and Sophia has just cleared his gambling debts, she could agree out of disappointment.
Thank you for your reply to my question. The upcoming Andy and Cathy event has stirred my imagination, and what I propose is just a notion of whimsy. What if there was chemistry in the past between Liam and Cathy as well as with Andy and Sophia? Whether the chemistry was realized in either case 20 years ago may play into this idea.
What if old feelings quietly emerge between Sophia and Andy, and likewise between Liam and Cathy? To continue the thought, what if these feelings Sophia has grows independently of Liam's feelings for Cathy? There could be a short string of events in which Sophia's fidelity is tested by temptation for Andy, while at the same time Liam's commitment to Sophia is tested with Cathy. This could raise the question as to who is more loyal. Would Sophia secretly succumb to her lust? Would Liam resist the willing arms of Cathy's embrace as a final fling before her wedding? Would both give into their lust, and in independent scenarios consummate their latent desires? It would be even more entertaining if Andy and Cathy were in collusion to test the long marriage of their long-time friends. I would personally enjoy the dramatic tension leading up to such an event, as well as how the secret liaison(s) would resolve.
 
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this game has become a suck than it was before, it is impossible to save prgres in the tiper game, and there is no Russian language in the game.. what was the point of waiting for version 130 if you can't play it the same way as in 115
 

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1 Month? Talk about respect for those that pay him. I hope they like to be suckers
Respect for those who pay him? L&P? Joke of the day! L&P has proven himself to be a hot-headed self-censored repeatedly and at current speed of development AWAM would be finished somewhere in the 2040s. But rest assured, without massive changes in workflow and project managment, it will never be finished! (I know that some of his defenders here will send "facepalms" again, but believe me, if for any time I have already seen projects like this, I would get an Euro for presaging it´s fate, then my winter retirement house in Samoa would be standing)
Those who pay L&P just for his artwork will be fine, those who want a finished game are in for a very rude awakening!

In his post, L&P talks about 10 years, which might barely be possible with a lot of long term motivation for a one-person project. Only that with AWAM the issue is that L&P would take about 27 more years from now at the current development speed (1.5 years for one game day) to finish the 30 game days he has planned.

So maybe it is better to have a just "good game" finished than the first half of a "perfect game" that is canceled.
That last sentence of the quote L&P should print and hang in bold letters in every room where he lives!
 

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Respect for those who pay him? L&P? Joke of the day! L&P has proven himself to be a hot-headed self-censored repeatedly and at current speed of development AWAM would be finished somewhere in the 2040s. But rest assured, without massive changes in workflow and project managment, it will never be finished! (I know that some of his defenders here will send "facepalms" again, but believe me, if for any time I have already seen projects like this, I would get an Euro for presaging it´s fate, then my winter retirement house in Samoa would be standing)
Those who pay L&P just for his artwork will be fine, those who want a finished game are in for a very rude awakening!

That last sentence of the quote L&P should print and hang in bold letters in every room where he lives!
I don't know but, I have always been concerned with the project management (or lack thereof) and have enjoyed his art. Now, I find myself definitely in the 'Oh crap he WILL go the foot of the mountain path'. I wonder if am I turning to the dark side of the Sith or is it the light side of seeking truth as a Jedi. In this case, it seems L&P has performed a miracle and may be making both true simultaneously.:ROFLMAO::coffee:
 

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Thank you for your reply to my question. The upcoming Andy and Cathy event has stirred my imagination, and what I propose is just a notion of whimsy. What if there was chemistry in the past between Liam and Cathy as well as with Andy and Sophia? Whether the chemistry was realized in either case 20 years ago may play into this idea.
What if old feelings quietly emerge between Sophia and Andy, and likewise between Liam and Cathy? To continue the thought, what if these feelings Sophia has grows independently of Liam's feelings for Cathy? There could be a short string of events in which Sophia's fidelity is tested by temptation for Andy, while at the same time Liam's commitment to Sophia is tested with Cathy. This could raise the question as to who is more loyal. Would Sophia secretly succumb to her lust? Would Liam resist the willing arms of Cathy's embrace as a final fling before her wedding? Would both give into their lust, and in independent scenarios consummate their latent desires? It would be even more entertaining if Andy and Cathy were in collusion to test the long marriage of their long-time friends. I would personally enjoy the dramatic tension leading up to such an event, as well as how the secret liaison(s) would resolve.
Yes, there could have been her mind game if L&P had followed its original plan and alternately told the story from Sophias and then again from Liam's point of view. Now Liam is just a projection surface for the main character Sophia. That is exactly why I think it is so difficult to tell a swinger event in such a short time frame. This erotic game that you propose cannot work if the 4 people only have a maximum of 3 evenings available maybe.
I agree the swinger event can only work as a short circuit event in my opinion. The starting point would be Laim's obvious interest in Cathy for Sophia, which is likely to be reciprocated. Perhaps in an unobserved moment, Cathy is acting quite aggressively. Sophia sees it. On both the Good Wife and Filthy routes, Sophia is injured (and also aroused). And wants to catch up and starts the game with Andrew. In the meantime, Liam has rejected Cathy and is returning to his wife. And now, for his part, observes Sophia and Andrew in action. He too feels hurt now and continues with Cathy. They both end up having sex. They can then talk about it on the Good-Wife Route and start a new chapter in their relationship. On the Filthy route, both will pretend they don't know what the other has done.

I am here because of such mind games! That makes the difference to other games. And that's why all the side stories are important to me. To have fun.
 

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I don't know but, I have always been concerned with the project management (or lack thereof) and have enjoyed his art. Now, I find myself definitely in the 'Oh crap he WILL go the foot of the mountain path'. I wonder if am I turning to the dark side of the Sith or is it the light side of seeking truth as a Jedi. In this case, it seems L&P has performed a miracle and may be making both true simultaneously.:ROFLMAO::coffee:
Jedi and Sith are totally overhyped, Grey Order and Jensaarai for the Win!:cool:;) As for project managment, the slow remake of "Where it all Began" is likelier to see the light of day before we are at halftime of AWAM!
 
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