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Ellie is roughly 18 1/2 and Dylan is roughly 17 1/2. Please read my previous comments (unless they have been deleted) and I believe you will also be convinced.
Agreed, My understanding was Dylan was a senior in High School.

Now for the three stooges. He has the SHOTA tag Now for this reason.
 

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Sophia reveals to Janitor Clarke that she has been married for almost 19 years. She was pregnant with Ellie which prompted the marriage. Conspicuously, there is no regretful internal dialogue during the wedding dress scene which I imagine Sophia would have had if her wedding were overly rushed and she had no appropriate wedding dress. This strongly suggests that Sophia was three to four months pregnant at the time of her wedding. this leaves five to six months of remaining pregnancy before Ellie's birth. Almost 19 years minus 5 to 6 months is roughly 18 1/2. this evidence is fairly unequivocal.
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Ellie is slightly more than 1 year older than Dylan. It is likely they are born in the same month (this no doubt irks Ellie to no end). Subtract 1 year from Ellie's age of 18 1/2, and we get an age of 17 1/2 for Dylan. Voila!
I am confident that you now share my belief in the respective ages of Ellie and Dylan.
Sincerely, Jack.
And nothing says she did not get pregnant before she got married. She could have been 8 months pregnant. I have had several friends with slim builds that did not start to show until the last two months. Who knows when they got busy for Dylan. He is younger by a bit over a year. All we have is an actual age GAP not Actual Bdays etc... . Kind of like the Nixon Kennedy debates on the Missile GAP. DOH!:coffee::LOL:;)
 

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Even if there was a sex scene someway down the line I think the gap between the husband having sex with her vs whoever wins the lottery to do Sophia will be so big that the people are still going to be disconnected as there is no definite corruption pattern in this game as there is no recollection with her previous daring events she doesn't even acknowledge how far she has crossed the line as after the event she will get a call from the 60th character in the story who will be waiting in a restaurant across the border.
 

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No she is 25 or 26 years old.
If you haven't played Part 2 than you should play it.
You can see in characters directory that her friend Emily is like 26 something. Similarly her bf is like 27 something. And Diane is also of same age.
So she is so much older than Ellie.
Anna versus Sophia is like comparing a half-pounder with cheese to an 8 ounce fillet steak.
In both cases you get 227 grammes of meat.
They are both enjoyable in their different ways at different times.
But it is the difference between fast food and fine dining.

I enjoyed Anna Exciting Affection in the same way I would enjoy an 8 minute porn video.
Minimal set up and before you know the girl is having a dp with 2 strangers that she did nt know 5 minutes earlier.
Great for a quick fap!!
 
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ashitanojoe

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Once again into the breach:

1) Pardon me, but your first point is defensive shilly-shally! Most of the Devs/Games I mentioned are in the same league of graphics quality as AWAM. Just stating AWAM is superior is simply Bias and dissing others work. Here are some examples:







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These are just a couple example pics from several of the Devs I mentioned. These are most definitely high quality graphics, which do not have to hide from AWAM at all. And best, every single one is from a game which is a lot quicker in development than L&P.
As you can see, there are a couple HS/AiS made renders in there. If you know how to use Illusion rendering, you can get really good quality out of them.
I give a point to you that Eva Kiss does 2D Art and so is difficult to rate in comparison to 3D, but her art improves too. "Our red String" has a serious upswing in art compared to her first game GggB.
"Free Pass" is made by a duo, yes, but like in literally all other games I mentioned only one person alone makes the renders.

2) I think we have a difference in what is considered slow burn. I consider slow burn a game that has serious branching, interesting paths and takes time to finish/explore all paths, regardless of when sex starts to happen. For example, "Our red String" is slow burn, it had already 7 updates, but the various main paths have been only established recently, there will be quite a way to cover until it ends. "Pale Carnations" is maybe 1/4-1/3 done, but the main fun is still to come. But outside the "always complainers everywhere" you will not hear one peep about the slow burn! And that is because we know that the Devs of e.g. "ORS" and "PC" will deliver good sized updates in discrete intervals and will finish their games in a couple of years and NOT in couple of fraking decades!

3) Already named two above.

4):FacePalm: You do know that L&P does everything to silence critics? F95, which by the way paved the way for his game and now L&P despices this forum because we do not kiss the ground this hot-headed, pretentious prick moves on, is one of the few places where you can read about his faults!

5) We agree on that L&P could without problems get by with less renders, especially since he is so slow. As for slow burn needs more renders than other games, this is partly true. While you need more pics for a widebranching game, the number of pics per scene does not need to explode into eternity. Pacing, use and variance of the pics is nearly more important than raw numbers.
1) My first point was not with the intention of underestimate other games, but to say some true: working in HS is a lot faster than Daz.

2 and 3) Our Red String and Pale Carnations aren't similar slow burn games than this one, simply because they are done in different engines, you can't compare the development time.

4) That sounds like a conspiracy theory to me, this thread is full of rantings against him, the dev doesn't control the moderators here, I have had many comments deleted too. I myself have been very critical with L&P sometimes, I emphasize that this type of game should be done in team, even one day the dev insulted me in return because I said that he was overdoing some renders too much, that they look too artificial and he was wasting a lot of time in that. I'm not a defender of him, I just try to be objective.
 

Jack Adams

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Once again, here are the official ages of all the characters:

Sophia =38
Patricia=33
Dylan =16 (wird bald 17)
Ellie = 17
Christine = 17
Sam = 16
Zac = 17
Aiden 17
Andre 17
Emma = 16
Julia = 16
Nathalie = 19
Cathy = 28
Andy = 38
Vicky = 23
Alyssa = 32
Amber = 37
Please provide the source for this informational list, and a date when it was first 'published'.
Even if the source was L&P, if it was developed before the Patreon confrontation some of the ages no longer reflect what is in the game today. About the time L&P released DOL he also made dialogue and narration changes in AWAM that changed the reference points for Ellie and Dylan's ages. Two important landmarks that were developed after the introduction of DOL was Sophia's age of 17 when graduating High School, and Sophia's obtaining a master's degree in five years instead of six years of college. After considering these changes some of the younger ages on your list no longer fit the reality of today's AWAM.
Again, please provide the source and date for your information.
Thank you, Jack.
 
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Please provide the source for this informational list, and a date when it was first 'published'.
Even if the source was L&P, if it was developed before the Patreon confrontation some of the ages no longer reflect what is in the game today. About the time L&P released DOL he also made dialogue and narration changes in AWAM that changed the reference points for Ellie and Dylan's ages. Two important landmarks that were developed after the introduction of DOL was Sophia's age of 17 when graduating High School, and Sophia's obtaining a master's degree in five years instead of six years of college. After considering these changes some of the younger ages on your list no longer fit the reality of today's AWAM.
Again, please provide the source and date for your information.
Thank you, Jack.
I have published this list here before. And also then I mentioned that I received it from him by mail. And of course I will not reveal my mails or my knowledge here in this forum. The forum used to be interesting and it was cool to exchange info. But since a few months there are almost only haters, morons, know-it-alls, who think they know everything about AWAM and L&P and tell the same crap day in, day out. So I read through this with a grin and think to myself... wtf! :cool:
 

Jack Adams

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I have published this list here before. And also then I mentioned that I received it from him by mail. And of course I will not reveal my mails or my knowledge here in this forum. The forum used to be interesting and it was cool to exchange info. But since a few months there are almost only haters, morons, know-it-alls, who think they know everything about AWAM and L&P and tell the same crap day in, day out. So I read through this with a grin and think to myself... wtf! :cool:
I respect your right to keep proprietary information to yourself, and I would never ask you to release your e-mails. That would be inappropriate. All I am asking for is two pieces of information: from who and when. Thank you for confirming that it was L&P although the time frame remains a mystery.
I think that this forum is still interesting, however, what I am seeing is a lack of critical thinking in some (only some) of the members. This is why I am asking for the two pieces of critical information. It is the method of discussion I am driving for not a castigation of any individuals.
You are right to question the environment, because when we abandon the steps of critical thinking the discussion devolves into an emotional or irrational discussion. When this happens the impression we get from the dialogue is anger, ill thought out discourse and pontification. I for one have a lot to learn from those who are closer to the source than I am. This is precisely why I am now asking for source evidence to cut through the irrelevancies you describe when we dialogue without it.
This is why I am asking again...are you willing to share when this information was received?
 
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Poser_Voyeur

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Well not interested in Dylan. As I have also said it before.
I am avoiding Incest cause just hate it.
Which is fine, But don't expect to play a game where Incest is one of the main features and then complain you have so little content. You have so little content because of YOUR choices.

You may find a game with less incest focus that will be more to YOUR tastes.
 

Alley_Cat

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Agreed, My understanding was Dylan was a senior in High School.

Now for the three stooges. He has the SHOTA tag Now for this reason.
Dylan is at best a sophomore, Ellie is a senior. Dylan is a year behind because of age, and another for failing classes.
 
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