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VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.215f] [Lust & Passion]

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palmtrees89 said:
I'm glad you can acknowledge some of the issues I was addressing, but when I see the same old paragraphs from people on how L&P is supposedly working slower because of the increase in quality and whatnot, it slowly becomes like talking to a brick wall. When does it stop? How much slower does it have to be? Realistically speaking, a finished game can be expected in the year 2038. Do you really believe this game will ever be finished with the current pace?

You are trying to defend something where there is nothing to defend anymore, if you ask me. You come up with speculations as to why he is so slow developing his project, yet none of it seems reasonable to me at this point since the downtrend doesn't seem to end. Where is this "improvement in quality" this time around? I for one actually thought that the recent update was of much lower quality in some of the scenes and renders presented to us, compared to previous updates.

I'm not saying that we should expect the same amount of content like DPC is pumping out, but after several years of experience I would think that L&P should be able to catch up, not the other way around. Yes, using DPC as an example might be a bit extreme since he really is in a different ballgame, I'll give you that.

Anyway, I've had your exact same views for the longest time, but I simply can't come up with any more excuses to support L&P anymore, hence why I stopped supporting him financially. Does that mean I want to abandon the game entirely? No, I love it way too much for that to happen anytime soon, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna stop criticizing the developer whenever I see something I disagree with either.

Thank you for a somewhat mature and senseful discussion though.
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Yeah and most devs I support can handle constructive criticism and actually welcome it to see how they can improve there game. They also release their teaser pics here first before we can, imagine that they want people that don’t subscribe to actually be interested in their game. I’m shocked,, what a clever idea?
 
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dolfe67 said:
He said "But only if you did the right decisions before" so it won't be available to all players/routes
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The Aiden route is already co-dependent with the Dylan route so I can't see 'the right decisions' being specific to any route besides those two routes.
It could just as easily be down to some choice Sophia made during the 3rd task, like if she got far enough to trigger Aiden revealing that he was Ares all along - he'll be extra cocky & she'll be extra cheesed off, allowing her to catch Aiden on record blackmailing her for the fourth task.
 
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dolfe67 said:
He said "But only if you did the right decisions before" so it won't be available to all players/routes
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Jude6 said:
The Aiden route is already co-dependent with the Dylan route so I can't see 'the right decisions' being specific to any route besides those two routes.
It could just as easily be down to some choice Sophia made during the 3rd task, like if she got far enough to trigger Aiden revealing that he was Ares all along - he'll be extra cocky & she'll be extra cheesed off, allowing her to catch Aiden on record blackmailing her for the fourth task.
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According to KillJoys the 'the right decisions' refers to the fact she made Larry happy, like showing the breast, the panties etc. There's a variable named larry that cumulates what Sophia does to make him happy.
The whole point of the visit was to make him happy and probably according to the value of the variable Sophia will have or not the choice/possibility for the "comfortable solution".
 
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xxxorro said:
According to KillJoys the 'the right decisions' refers to the fact she made Larry happy, like showing the breast, the panties etc. There's a variable named larry that cumulates what Sophia does to make him happy.
The whole point of the visit was to make him happy and probably according to the value of the variable Sophia will have or not the choice/possibility for the "comfortable solution".
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Sophia turning up at the prison to meet Larry is enough to make him happy as Sophia didn't need to agree to everything that Larry asked
 
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xxxorro said:
Morello and Aiden are independent, they can be in the same playroute but each can be happening without the other.
So you are right in wondering how the comfortable solution will be available if you don't have Morello (for which, I recall, you need to either go with the sauna guys or go home alone during the casino event).

It's different with Bennet, which is not optional and again can co-exist with Morello. For Bennet's solution, some ground work has been laid down with Mrs Torres which can help with the grades.

Probably, if you are in Morello's route, Sophia will have the choice to choose his help with either Bennet or Aiden. Or even only Aiden. Every possibility is actually open.

Few pages ago I also wondered about the "optional" thing. It could be optional because it only happens if Morello does not help, if Sophia fulfill all the requirements with Larry, there will be no choice, Sophia asks for help to Morello and that's it.
Or "optional" as in "left to player's choice" and in that case it will be interesting to see what could be the reason for Sophia not accepting it. Maybe the help has some "strings attached" or, e.g., Sophia despite her hate for Aiden does not want to get his life in danger (or something like that, just trying to give an example). Because L&P made it clear that "Sophia will also need to think about the decision carefully".

I too hope that the choice to go on with Aiden is not because she "enjoys" it, but, in case, because some other "reasonable" motivations, like I said, she could be forced to choose between the lesser of the two evils.
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The simplest explanation why Sophia does not accept Morello's help for the problem Aiden / Bennet could be that she does not trust Morello on the way. Aiden / Bennet may seem manageable to them, but Morello by no means. He's a mafia boss and if I were to ask someone like that a favor, I'd be under a lot of pressure. It is a give and take, but you don't let these people into your life any more than is absolutely necessary. L&P wrote that Sophia can / must make an important decision. And that this decision depends on previous events. The simplest explanation for the fact that there are independent ways Aiden / Morello is that if Sophia has not made Larry happy there is no way to get rid of Aiden / Bennet comfortably.
I was also wondering about the future optional Morello event. I think she can go to the contract negotiations with Liam (if there are, but I assume that Morello will not waive the money and treat the gambling debt as a kind of bank loan) through repaying the money or not. I think Morello will offer her an opportunity, a job, giving Sophia complete freedom to accept or decline it. Because, after all, she fulfilled her part of the deal. It won't be ostensibly sexual (not yet). But it could be the possibility for Sophia to become financially more independent from Liam. And there is the possibility of punishing Liam in this way. Because he will not know about the exact content of this job.
 
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hzjujk said:
The simplest explanation why Sophia does not accept Morello's help for the problem Aiden / Bennet could be that she does not trust Morello on the way. Aiden / Bennet may seem manageable to them, but Morello by no means. He's a mafia boss and if I were to ask someone like that a favor, I'd be under a lot of pressure. It is a give and take, but you don't let these people into your life any more than is absolutely necessary. L&P wrote that Sophia can / must make an important decision. And that this decision depends on previous events. The simplest explanation for the fact that there are independent ways Aiden / Morello is that if Sophia has not made Larry happy there is no way to get rid of Aiden / Bennet comfortably.
I was also wondering about the future optional Morello event. I think she can go to the contract negotiations with Liam (if there are, but I assume that Morello will not waive the money and treat the gambling debt as a kind of bank loan) through repaying the money or not. I think Morello will offer her an opportunity, a job, giving Sophia complete freedom to accept or decline it. Because, after all, she fulfilled her part of the deal. It won't be ostensibly sexual (not yet). But it could be the possibility for Sophia to become financially more independent from Liam. And there is the possibility of punishing Liam in this way. Because he will not know about the exact content of this job.
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Nice Idea but Morello is not in the poll and this is only a small story,if I remember right.
 
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KillJoys said:
Nice Idea but Morello is not in the poll and this is only a small story,if I remember right.
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I did not express myself correctly! Morello does not become a sex partner for Sophia. This relationship remains purely business. But let's say Morello is planning a business with partners who are not that easy to convince. And he needs a woman, not a whore, intelligent, clever, educated and incredibly convincing in terms of physical qualities.
 
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hzjujk said:
I did not express myself correctly! Morello does not become a sex partner for Sophia. This relationship remains purely business. But let's say Morello is planning a business with partners who are not that easy to convince. And he needs a woman, not a whore, intelligent, clever, educated and incredibly convincing in terms of physical qualities.
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I agree with you that Sophia will not become a sex partner for Morello or even Larry for that matter.
The job is a nice idea and one I wish would happen but I don't think that the Morello's will be in the game for much longer
 
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KillJoys said:
I agree with you that Sophia will not become a sex partner for Morello or even Larry for that matter.
The job is a nice idea and one I wish would happen but I don't think that the Morello's will be in the game for much longer
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Then Liam did everything right. I want a woman like that too. With my wife, if I screwed up like that, I would sleep with my eyes open at night and not ask for sex afterwards.
 
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