VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.215f] [Lust & Passion]

[duelfamily13]

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Here,s the 130 update if u just want to watch it hehehehe

 

[Bane71]

The progress has slowed down.
Does anyone know the reasons? Perhaps there is any information from L&P?

 

[Bane71]

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Here,s the 130 update if u just want to watch it hehehehe

This is just one of the episodes of the update, but not all!

 

[Leldorin]

Like you, I'm afraid I have to disagree with your comments as well. So let me try to rebut some of your comments here.

"Liam does not take Dylan to games because he is at his job. Why will he leave work just to drop Dylan to the games when Sophia is free around that time and can do it. In a normal household ( though this household is no longer normal but still ) responsibilities are shared."

First of all, Liam doesn't work 24hrs a day and 7days a week every day. He does get time off as well. Also, Sophia teaches at a school as a primary job and has two other side job tasks. Here are two examples of Liam not taking Dylan to practice, and this happened on the weekend of days 14 and 15.

Spoiler: Day 14 - Dylan's Soccer Sophia/Liam

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Spoiler: Day 15 - Dylan's Soccer Sophia/Liam

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You talk about shared responsibility, but in the examples I provided, you can clearly see that on Saturday, Liam went to work for a little bit then went to then picked up alcohol for the game they watched on TV that evening, only to follow up with Liam going fishing in the morning. I think the story text from both previews speaks for itself. Liam made it sound it was a chore for him to take Dylan to practice instead of taking an interest in Dylan and take some responsibility in this scene. Which you can also see him teasing Dylan about the sport he plays to Sophia. So yes, my thoughts shift to him being an Asshole overall, as you can find more examples in the novel.

"Dylan in my eyes hasn't changed much even after the jogging event. He stood up for his mother that's a good thing but apart from that, his conversation with Sophia right from the start of the event was way more direct and always falling back to something sexual or inappropriate to talk to your mother about, something he has been doing in all the events. The first opportunity he got to grab her butt, he took it. He's still just as perverted, the next event should give us a better picture, because in this event all the perversion and inappropriateness gets clouded because Dylan stands up for Sophia."

Everyone in this novel has a Sexual or Inappropriate comment with Sophia. Hell, Ellie and Patricia are prime examples of this. Suppose you watch the shower scenes with Sophia/Ellie and the pool event with Julie or the club scene and yoga event that is way beyond inappropriate for their current relationship. It's no different than what Dylan is doing now; the only difference is Dylan is touching her through her fabric, and Ellie has some close "Skinship" going on right now.

Also, When you follow Dylan from the start. He was really perverted. Dylan looks like he was making his own "First Person Shooter" game, Spying, Begging Sophia to show her body for the first 11 P.Ds. Now when they jog together, IMO, they are having a mature conversation because they are still in the "SEX-ED," LOL, phase of the novel. So she is still teaching Dylan about women up to this point. Now touching her butt was over the top, but I wonder if L&P was trying to do this out of an impulse to show self-confidence booster for Dylan to defend Sophia. This is why I thought the fight scene was not the correct event to use to "Break the Ice" with Sophia and Dylan.

"About the hobos, I don't think it has anything to do with Dylan taking advantage of the situation or anything to do with how it is unfair to fight a drunk man. Those guys were saying and gesturing all sorts of despicable things to his mother. Anyone would lose their mind. How can he let slide when his mother is being harassed."

Again, anyone who's been around drunk people knows that they say and do obnoxious things. It's called being impaired. Usually, people tell drunk people to move along, or you leave it alone and move along. Now, IMO, if the scene played out differently like if Dylan stopped by the park restroom with Sophia and as he came out and saw the hobo trying to hit on her and invading her personal space, like the subway thugs, and he rushed over to defend her, I could see that playing out better because it went from being obnoxious to getting too close which would make Sophia feel uncomfortable.

I don’t really have a problem with the way Dylan handled the situation. After all, he’s still a teenager so even if that wasn’t the most mature response, I can totally see a teenager doing that kind of thing.

The weird one here is Sophia who see all that and think that was the appropriate response in this situation, doesn’t matter that the guys were drunk, more annoying than threatening, that the guy Dylan knocked out face planted and could have sustained serious injuries to his face...

Apparently, he’s now a “man” in Sophia eyes...

Who knows, maybe next time, a group of 6 years old will make fun of Sophia haircut and Dylan will roundhouse kick their face, which will make Sophia wet while thinking what a man he has become.

Joking aside, I think that there was other way that the “ defending someone honor ” could have been portrayed that would put a better light on Dylan (for those who have a problem with his actions in this event) and Sophia (for her reaction to Dylan actions) while still staying true to their characters.

Which can’t be really said with how the “homeless charity shelter event" or whatever it’s called was introduced.

The way Dylan talk to his mom in that scene is so ridiculous that’s it’s almost comical :

Sophia: This guys are so annoying...

Dylan: Maybe you should put yourself in their shoes you entitled homelessphobic woman.

S : Huh?!

D : You know what, you should hangout with them so maybe you will learn some humility, you intolerant bitch...!

S : Wha...

D : Didn’t you said you wanted to do that kind of thing before ? Well it’s time to prove you’re not all talk.!

S : It’s true but...

D : You should follow m’y advice.
You know what ? Where are the papers, I sign you right now !

(Dylan the “woke)

 

[Scarlet56]

It was already earlier, by others here in the forum, the assumption was expressed that Liam did not only incur the debts in the casino during one visit. Going fishing could only have been an excuse. I know that's an almost ridiculous guess.
But how about if Sophia found out about it at the optional Morello event. The player can choose: If Sophia is there with Liam who has often been to the casino, if she stays away from the meetings, she will never know about it (similar to the Dylan Twist). Participation could be important for the Sophia / Dylan route. But would have no effect on the other corruption routes. And it would justify why Sophia lies to her husband again and again later.

Frankly, I don't think there should be any scriptwriting mystery in it but simply a mistake on the part of L&P.
This is something you say when you live in a medium or small town. (See, a small village).

 

[Deleted member 3325933]

I don’t really have a problem with the way Dylan handled the situation. After all, he’s still a teenager so even if that wasn’t the most mature response, I can totally see a teenager doing that kind of thing.

The weird one here is Sophia who see all that and think that was the appropriate response in this situation, doesn’t matter that the guys were drunk, more annoying than threatening, that the guy Dylan knocked out face planted and could have sustained serious injuries to his face...

Apparently, he’s now a “man” in Sophia eyes...

Who knows, maybe next time, a group of 6 years old will make fun of Sophia haircut and Dylan will roundhouse kick their face, which will make Sophia wet while thinking what a man he has become.

Joking aside, I think that there was other way that the “ defending someone honor ” could have been portrayed that would put a better light on Dylan (for those who have a problem with his actions in this event) and Sophia (for her reaction to Dylan actions) while still staying true to their characters.

Which can’t be really said with how the “homeless charity shelter event" or whatever it’s called was introduced.

The way Dylan talk to his mom in that scene is so ridiculous that’s it’s almost comical :

Sophia: This guys are so annoying...

Dylan: Maybe you should put yourself in their shoes you entitled homelessphobic woman.

S : Huh?!

D : You know what, you should hangout with them so maybe you will learn some humility, you intolerant bitch...!

S : Wha...

D : Didn’t you said you wanted to do that kind of thing before ? Well it’s time to prove you’re not all talk.!

S : It’s true but...

D : You should follow m’y advice.
You know what ? Where are the papers, I sign you right now !

(Dylan the “woke)

Good point. I think what we see here is proof that he does not work from a completed script. If he had this all worked out there would be a good source to review and correct errors in the plot before it gets to the audience. Further, he would have more coherent concepts presented and definitely better dialogue / narrative for a few of these scenes. This scene, you describe issues with it quite well (IMO) and the other scene in the update that defied credulity (and will not be mentioned to save everyone's time). My impression is he is creating then scripting. Or at best has a loose outline that he then creates his art to support going back later to work the actual words.

And Dylan cannot be 'woke' since it is all about him. As Brother will attest.

 

[Michael Rawson]

Dylan sucks Sofia's nipples as soon as possible, according to L&P's hints and description of yoga events. Dylan is the reason Sofia's nipples get bigger, as she says at the Sophia Yoga Event.Dylan was always sucking on them like crazy as a baby , he could never get enough . I mean in the upcoming events, Dylan can suck Sophia's nipples and enlarge them, As I have noticed at every Dylan events, Dylan often watches Sofia's breasts and butt. Sophia knows exactly what Dylan wants , soon as possible she's ready to give him what he wants. Come on (Tiger) Dylan



In the last events of the game,(Dylan makes Sophia pregnant) Sophia becomes pregnant and then gives birth to Dylan's baby and then give the baby her nipples‍. One breast to Dylan, then another to his baby.

sorry english is not my native language

 

[Deleted member 3325933]

The progress has slowed down.
Does anyone know the reasons? Perhaps there is any information from L&P?

I am curious if he is going to take some vacay time. He took some time off after last update but, isn't August the usual time for most European Vacations, (not including Clark Griswold)? If we are in September and things are still slowing then there is a problem. He could also just be going through asset acquisition and setting the stage (pun intended) for the Sam event.

I am still confident in my prediction of a holiday release in Mid December. Please note this is based only on the concept he will be hiding his slow down under all the good feelings generated at that time. That production rate places completion in approximately 18 years and abandonment as a more likely scenario. Not good!

 

[Adolfo]

I am curious if he is going to take some vacay time. He took some time off after last update but, isn't August the usual time for most European Vacations, (not including Clark Griswold)? If we are in September and things are still slowing then there is a problem. He could also just be going through asset acquisition and setting the stage (pun intended) for the Sam event.

I am still confident in my prediction of a holiday release in Mid December. Please note this is based only on the concept he will be hiding his slow down under all the good feelings generated at that time. That production rate places completion in approximately 18 years and abandonment as a more likely scenario. Not good!

The two first scenes with Nathalie, Dylan and Ellie are less complicated than others. The environment is the house and characters are known, even Christine. I bet he has developed those two scenes and he is on holidays in Mallorca (in this month is like a german Lander), Ibiza or another place of Spain, Italy or Greece. IMO it's normal that he has holidays and he needs to rest, because he will have to work a lot to accelerate the rythm of the game and make the next events, Sam an Cathy events in this update, and next update (Chapter 2 beggining) with Aiden, Morello and a lot of Dylan.

 

[Rojouninco1]

Mallorca is Place of Spain , Island . Mallorca and Palma Mallorca Spain Island a amazing place to relax . L&P definitely will have a great time . And Will continue. Be safe and healthy and enjoy L&P

 

[nexer]

Mallorca is Place of Spain , Island . Mallorca and Palma Mallorca Spain Island a amazing place to relax . L&P definitely will have a great time . And Will continue. Be safe and healthy and enjoy L&P

True what you say, and you can stretch it until the end of September

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

It was already earlier, by others here in the forum, the assumption was expressed that Liam did not only incur the debts in the casino during one visit. Going fishing could only have been an excuse. I know that's an almost ridiculous guess.
But how about if Sophia found out about it at the optional Morello event. The player can choose: If Sophia is there with Liam who has often been to the casino, if she stays away from the meetings, she will never know about it (similar to the Dylan Twist). Participation could be important for the Sophia / Dylan route. But would have no effect on the other corruption routes. And it would justify why Sophia lies to her husband again and again later.

I don't think it would be a ridiculous guess. I mean, the text in Tony Morollo's use of the word debt but was changed to debts at the end of the conversation would hint to me that Liam was there more than once. Also, at the table that Sophia and Tony were sitting at and their conversation, I had the feeling that Tony already knew about Sophia. L&P already said that Liam never cheats on Sophia and Sophia is the one that will do the cheating, but L&P never said anything about Liam lying to Sophia, and In some, if not most, women's eyes, Lying is considered worst than cheating. But, as other readers have pointed out as well, This is probably a scene to start her "cumare" status with the mob. But she could learn that Liam was sneaking off to the casino as well.

 

[hzjujk]

I don't think it would be a ridiculous guess. I mean, the text in Tony Morollo's use of the word debt but was changed to debts at the end of the conversation would hint to me that Liam was there more than once. Also, at the table that Sophia and Tony were sitting at and their conversation, I had the feeling that Tony already knew about Sophia. L&P already said that Liam never cheats on Sophia and Sophia is the one that will do the cheating, but L&P never said anything about Liam lying to Sophia, and In some, if not most, women's eyes, Lying is considered worst than cheating. But, as other readers have pointed out as well, This is probably a scene to start her "compare" status with the mob. But she could learn that Liam was sneaking off to the casino as well.

"compare" status = Financial comparison = loan with repayment terms ?

 

[Rojouninco1]

Mallorca is Place of Spain , Island . Mallorca and Palma Mallorca Spain Island a amazing place to relax . L&P definitely will have a great time . And Will continue. Be safe and healthy and enjoy L&P

Sir Dr.Fapalot let me rephrase I just wanted to elaborate where it is . Sorry for the confusion . And wanted to thank you for posting your opinion on AWAM!! A real honor . continue posting .

 

[Talcum Powder]

"compare" status = Financial comparison = loan with repayment terms ?

"Cumare status"?

If that is not a typo, it does open the mind to some new thoughts. What is a "compare status with the mob"? Perhaps Sophia enters a phase where she compares Liam to Morello. For example, Morello is (1) dashing, (2) charming, (3) polite, (4) honorable, (5) family oriented, (6) attentive to detail, and (7) in control of the people and situations around him. Realistically, Liam consistently displays 1 and 3, is sometimes evincing 2 and 6, but never (or almost never) 4, 5 or 7.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

"compare" status = Financial comparison = loan with repayment terms ?

"Cumare status"?

If that is not a typo, it does open the mind to some new thoughts. What is a "compare status with the mob"? Perhaps Sophia enters a phase where she compares Liam to Morello. For example, Morello is (1) dashing, (2) charming, (3) polite, (4) honorable, (5) family oriented, (6) attentive to detail, and (7) in control of the people and situations around him. Realistically, Liam consistently displays 1 and 3, is sometimes evincing 2 and 6, but never (or almost never) 4, 5 or 7.

Let's try this again without spell-check trying to change every word it thinks is misspelled.

 

[hzjujk]

I don't think it would be a ridiculous guess. I mean, the text in Tony Morollo's use of the word debt but was changed to debts at the end of the conversation would hint to me that Liam was there more than once. Also, at the table that Sophia and Tony were sitting at and their conversation, I had the feeling that Tony already knew about Sophia. L&P already said that Liam never cheats on Sophia and Sophia is the one that will do the cheating, but L&P never said anything about Liam lying to Sophia, and In some, if not most, women's eyes, Lying is considered worst than cheating. But, as other readers have pointed out as well, This is probably a scene to start her "cumare" status with the mob. But she could learn that Liam was sneaking off to the casino as well.

If Liam has been to the casino several times, that will be the point where Sophia will tell Dylan about the debt burden. And of course Dylan will immediately play the hero and find a job. So he can continue to collect points. On the other hand, it would also be the "boring" path that a lot of games with Mother / Son follow

 

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Y'all need to see this

 

[milanche87]

Dylan sucks Sofia's nipples as soon as possible, according to L&P's hints and description of yoga events. Dylan is the reason Sofia's nipples get bigger, as she says at the Sophia Yoga Event.Dylan was always sucking on them like crazy as a baby , he could never get enough . I mean in the upcoming events, Dylan can suck Sophia's nipples and enlarge them, As I have noticed at every Dylan events, Dylan often watches Sofia's breasts and butt. Sophia knows exactly what Dylan wants , soon as possible she's ready to give him what he wants. Come on (Tiger) Dylan

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In the last events of the game,(Dylan makes Sophia pregnant) Sophia becomes pregnant and then gives birth to Dylan's baby and then give the baby her nipples‍. One breast to Dylan, then another to his baby.

sorry english is not my native language

I hope nipples won't get larger...that is a BIG turn off for me

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

If Liam has been to the casino several times, that will be the point where Sophia will tell Dylan about the debt burden. And of course Dylan will immediately play the hero and find a job. So he can continue to collect points. On the other hand, it would also be the "boring" path that a lot of games with Mother / Son follow

, She could end up as a "Cumare" or Carl, Patricia's Husband, may end up assisting them with the financial burden of the debt, but I wouldn't doubt that Carl will want something in return.

Dylan would have to become wealthy quickly at this stage of the game. He would have to either win the lottery or become a soccer/football star and sign with a team. That the only way I can see that play out.