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I too feel like there would be too many variables or issues between siblings to attempt such a taboo trinity, yet that doesn't make me want to see it as a viable path any less. Story-wise, I wouldn't propose Sophia intentionally work towards going down a path that leads specifically in a 3some. I would be interested in a possible storyline where Sophia considers ways on improving her children's relationship and budding sibling rivalry over her attention and ultimately erotic affections.

She then decides its in their best interest to create events/outings where they would both have chances to interact (Dylan and Ellie exclusively without distractions from their 'friends/lovers' though maybe occasionally bring along Auntie Patricia) and with her present. In this way they could put their differences aside, actually begin to bond and get comfortable being around each other, building chemistry and trust. Ultimately this could end up leading to a weekend getaway just the 3 or 4 of them culminating in several opportunities for them to take a series of steps closer to real physical intimacy that may or may not lead to actual foreplay and variations of sex.

Again, while I expect resistance from Sophia intentionally interested in that specific kind of closeness, I could see Ellie and Dylan bond over their shared physical attraction to Sophia, helped along and even encouraged in most cases by Patricia. Fingers crossed this actually becomes somewhat of an actual path for the 3 or 4 of them (if Patricia is included).
A threesome from Sophia / Elli / Dylan somehow looks as if this route was added later from the perspective of Sophia told. But that's just my very personal opinion.
On the other hand, I consider a threesome Sophia / Patricia / Dylan possible and if the perversion of the two women escalates and they repeatedly challenge each other, it is even inevitable. The only difference is that things won't go the way he imagined for Dylan: The two women use him as a sex toy.
 

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I have been wondering what town this story takes place in and what's in the water. From what I remember they moved from podunk country town to this city where quite naturally it seems, everyone want to sleep with Sophia
Her son. Daughter. Sister. Hairdresser. Maid. Neighbour(husband. Wife. Son. daughter). Hairdresser daughter. Principle. Teacher. Movers. Security guard. Bully. Mafia boss. Mafia brother. Shy schoolgirl. 3 boys. 2 old men. Museum kids. Park drunks. Thieves.
I believe the only person so far that doesn't want to sleep with her is; Cathy.
Amber too
I just played this game from the beginning again. Sophia had a lot of opportunities with the dicks but always stayed away. It would have been great if we had a lot of sex scenes. Still the game is great. Do you guys have any other recommendations like this game but with more sexual content?
Free pass or JOHN(no incest for this one)
 

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So I'm guessing a Sophia/Dylan/Ellie event is all but impossible if not highly unlikely?
Let me put it this way - in the Ellie route I play, she is almost doing cartwheels that he is no longer around. I still find absolutely no evidence she has mellowed wanting to get rid of him since day 1.

Now that we know Christine is involved in the bonus storyline, I find it far more likely it involves Mr Bean/Wonderwoman than it does Dylan/Ellie. The previous information we had that Christine already has a boyfriend doesn't seem as important, since that was also true for Marie, yet Marie appears easily willing to dump hers for Dylan.
 

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These are the possible family paths:
Dylan/Sophia
Dylan/Sophia/Patricia
Dylan/Ellie
Ellie/Sophia
Ellie/Sophia/Patricia maybe... I don´t know

L&P currently rules out a threesome with Sophia/Ellie and Dylan. He does not want a harem for Dylan.
Sophia/Ellie/Julie looks like it will be a path too. Julie may be the substitute for Patricia.
 

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Let me put it this way - in the Ellie route I play, she is almost doing cartwheels that he is no longer around. I still find absolutely no evidence she has mellowed wanting to get rid of him since day 1.

Now that we know Christine is involved in the bonus storyline, I find it far more likely it involves Mr Bean/Wonderwoman than it does Dylan/Ellie. The previous information we had that Christine already has a boyfriend doesn't seem as important, since that was also true for Marie, yet Marie appears easily willing to dump hers for Dylan.
I would have to disagree with you if you only limited yourself to playing one path only. For example, suppose you choose to play the Dylan/Ellie Side Story. The relationship between them starts to improve when Dylan helps with the repair of her laptop. Also, Ellie is snooping around Dylan's room, which tells me that she is trying to find out more about Dylan's likes and interests. Also, when they embrace and kiss on the cheek, you noticed that Ellie's attitude changes with Dylan.

So maybe in the path you play, she is doing "cartwheels," but that is far from the case. As the side story shows, Ellie is the aggressor here as she threatens to beat Dylan up if he doesn't help her, but Dylan plays it smooth and starts to walk away. Then she goes into the please help me out phase.

Also; In the shower scene between Sophia/Ellie with Dylan active in the storyline, there is a text about Dylan and the Viagra incident. If you haven't played it yet, here is a couple of screenshots. But something tells me you have seen or read about it because of the Mr.Bean/Wonder Woman comment.

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This task suggestion has the great merit of "exposing" Sophia to the class without... exposing her directly, i.e. no direct show of breasts or other directly. That would be indeed very difficult to make it believable, especially as early as the 4th task.

Instead, through the lens of art, Sophia can experience the "thrill" of being exposed in public for the first time not to strangers but to people she knows very well. So far it happened with Larry, a person she met for the first time, in the sauna with other people + Vicky and boyfriend (him also a "stranger") and with the art boys (unknown + she was "incognito").
That would ease her in accepting this kind of situation for future events, whether it is with the class again (but we don't know) or in other circumstances.

As for the "pact", I don't know if I exactly got what you meant, but it seems to me that it would be crucial that the pact is formulated in terms of "complicity", to completely avoid another source of blackmailing from the other students. Very simply put, not saying "please, let this stay with us otherwise I could get fired" or "there will be more if you stay silent". I don't know how to exactly put it either, but something on the line of persuading them that this is a high expression of art and rationalizing nudity as a form of it. I'm not a writer, so sorry if I cannot expressing better than that. ;)

The only minor issue is, again (and sorry if I sound like a broken record), the different endings of the 3rd task.
If that does not have any impact, then the painting would be Sophia as Helena because it is the only one that is common to the three outcomes. And for which we don't have an image of the painting in the game (Sophia sees the paintings but we don't), we only have this
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Otherwise the painting will be different according to the endings of the 3rd task, and there are multiple choices, with Aphrodite alone with exposed or covered breast,
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(we do not see the covered version)

Aphrodite and Ares with our without touch
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(again no pictures available of the other version)

There are also the two "fertile imagination" versions but that's maybe too much
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That would mean that the 4th task also will be split in 3 slightly different events according to which one is shown and the reactions will be slightly different.
Personally, I always favour simplicity, so I hope that it will be kept simple, e.g. if the Helena one is not enough hot as painting maybe one of the "imaginative" pupils has secretly painting a more intriguing version that has not been shown. Don't like retrofitting either, but in this case I prefer it over complexity.

Or, again against my personal taste, what if Aiden's path is actually meant to split in 3 different paths in which Sophia is (i) in control, (ii) in control but increasingly enjoying the tasks, (iii) increasingly feeling humiliated and getting angry with Aiden (leading to a possible "angry fuck" as proposed by GingerSweetGirl )?
Too much, right? Please reassure me guys ;)
Just one thought on your Aiden Task 3 decision matrix. The matrix makes little sense for further extortion channels. From this point on, the developer would have to come up with different routes that differ further and further as the process progresses. But maybe it makes sense when using Morello's favor. L&P has said that the ability to end the blackmailing of Morello depends on previous decisions. If Sophia knows that Ares Aiden was hiding under the mask, when she was exposed to his gross sexual harassment, then maybe she will be afraid of not getting the whole blackmail story under control. Or at least get seriously damaged in the process. And the Morello option is available. In the other case, Sophia believes the thing is manageable and is also fun. And Morello option is not available.
 
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could you give me a link where Dylan can win in the park ? I found one, but the game does not open after downloading .. should I wait for the new version to be released ? I hope that Dylan can win in the park in the Android version this time .. prosda nadaelo lose, no matter what I do( can you help me solve this problem ?((:)cry::cry:
 

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could you give me a link where Dylan can win in the park ? I found one, but the game does not open after downloading .. should I wait for the new version to be released ? I hope that Dylan can win in the park in the Android version this time .. prosda nadaelo lose, no matter what I do( can you help me solve this problem ?(:))cry::cry:
I'm just wondering how many people from those who visit this forum play on Android?
If I'm not mistaken, it's been said here on the forum more than once that everything is fine on Android, as well as on PC, Dylan manages to defeat a drunk man. Why it doesn't work only for you, it's not clear!
If it didn't work for others, then there would be a lot of complaints, but you might have noticed a long time ago that you are the only one with such a problem.

When you don't use the word bitch, at least your post can be read!
 

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These are the possible family paths:
Dylan/Sophia
Dylan/Sophia/Patricia
Dylan/Ellie
Ellie/Sophia
Ellie/Sophia/Patricia maybe... I don´t know

L&P currently rules out a threesome with Sophia/Ellie and Dylan. He does not want a harem for Dylan.
Seriously, there's an actual Dylan/Ellie path? I would almost be content even if there is no Dylan/Ellie/Sophia, just to see them finally become close and no longer hostile, as long as Ellie doesn't go all tsundere on Dylan.

I would disagree that it would be a Dylan harem since he still technically is introverted and shy around the girls he isn't related to, so if he 'practiced' on them, it's not like he'll magically have a harem overnight if at all. Best case scenario, he beds Sophia, Ellie and maybe Patricia, but considering all the available L.I. I wouldn't call it a harem per se.

In my current PT, I avoided the Emma hookup, because personally I think he can do better, and I'd rather her keep her crush on Sophia (the true harem hero). Outside of his interest in Marie, which is one-sided at the moment, he's single so for any harem to happen, he'd need to add Christine, Emma, Marie, Claire and even Amber, not to mention ridiculous levels of suspension of disbelief.

Let me put it this way - in the Ellie route I play, she is almost doing cartwheels that he is no longer around. I still find absolutely no evidence she has mellowed wanting to get rid of him since day 1.

Now that we know Christine is involved in the bonus storyline, I find it far more likely it involves Mr Bean/Wonderwoman than it does Dylan/Ellie. The previous information we had that Christine already has a boyfriend doesn't seem as important, since that was also true for Marie, yet Marie appears easily willing to dump hers for Dylan.
In one of my early PT's where I sent him to boarding school, I also got the feeling she was beyond ecstatic, almost cruelly so IMO, at not having an inconvenient brother around the house, especially as it meant she had carte blanche for pool time with her girls (including her secret girlfriend) and unlimited mom-shower time. It was that kind of over zealous/callous attitude that immediately made me make a Dylan PT to balance out what was essentially on only daughter/Ellie PT.

As far as Christine goes, kinda messed up she was all in for pranking Dylan, but now is willing to at least fool around with him if not be a possible girlfriend option should he want to pursue it? Yeah I'm still bitter about that, plus just not as attracted to her as much as I would be to Marie. I'm playing Dylan holding out for Sophia/Patricia as a secret/private girlfriend with Marie as a potential public girlfriend. I'd even be willing to have Claire attempt to seduce him while competing with Marie.

I would have to disagree with you if you only limited yourself to playing one path only. For example, suppose you choose to play the Dylan/Ellie Side Story. The relationship between them starts to improve when Dylan helps with the repair of her laptop. Also, Ellie is snooping around Dylan's room, which tells me that she is trying to find out more about Dylan's likes and interests. Also, when they embrace and kiss on the cheek, you noticed that Ellie's attitude changes with Dylan.

So maybe in the path you play, she is doing "cartwheels," but that is far from the case. As the side story shows, Ellie is the aggressor here as she threatens to beat Dylan up if he doesn't help her, but Dylan plays it smooth and starts to walk away. Then she goes into the please help me out phase.

Also; In the shower scene between Sophia/Ellie with Dylan active in the storyline, there is a text about Dylan and the Viagra incident. If you haven't played it yet, here is a couple of screenshots. But something tells me you have seen or read about it because of the Mr.Bean/Wonder Woman comment.

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Thanks for including that, I somehow either blanked out on or missed that specific exchange. It may be circumstantial, but it could be justification for this Ellie/Dylan path that now I'm dying to explore. I'd like to know outside of repairing the laptop, what are the other triggers for this route?
 
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You mean the scene where in spite of how much of a bitch she treats Dylan, he still fixes her laptop, all while snooping in his room because he can't trusted in hers, yet she continues to go through all his drawers, under his bed, and snoops everywhere she can while accusing him of being a nosy perv. and taunting him about being a virgin and no girl will want to be with him..., yes, I did get to that scene.

Between that and the beach prank, she really makes it hard to like her in spite of how hot her and Jules are together and her showers with Sophia. I'm almost tempted to do a run where she doesn't kiss Julia ends up with Elena while she avoids that path altogether.
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Given where you had said previously you had got to at that point in time, I was trying very hard not to talk too much of what was coming up so as not to give any advance spoilers for your first playthrough.

Yes - I did mean that scene. First thing I should say is that, to the best of my recollection, we still don't know in game quite why Ellie seems to hate Dylan at the very start of the story so vehemently. Various people have speculated on why that might be but I don't want to go back over that - maybe it might be clarified by L&P in future, maybe it will remain just setting out the story opening.

Then moving forward in the storyline re beach Viagra prank, again yes I think Ellie totally overcompensated and Sophia was surprisingly lenient - again that particular prank has been discussed many times before and I don't want to provoke yet further discussion on it - just noting that I agree with your criticism of Ellie for the beach prank.

So what I want to focus on is Dylan fixing her laptop, and yes Ellie is still being a bit of a bitch to Dylan and yes she is annoyingly snooping round his room. But overall I seem to come away from that scene with a different overall impression that you did. To me it is the first time that Dylan acts more mature than he had been earlier in the story. He does nt get provoked by her jibes, and at the end, all he wants in payment for his efforts is an affectionate hug and thanks from his sister. That is progress from Dylan's perspective.

And also look at Ellie's reaction to Dylan - it feels to me as the turning point in their relationship. I don't know if we will ever get any sexual scenes between Dylan and Ellie, but if we do then it will be based on storylines starting from this scene.

We might get a sense of that in the next update when we have already seen the preview of Dylan with Ellie and Christiine in the back garden seating area. Maybe that might lead to Ellie setting Dylan up with Christine - to me that is not something that could have happened before the laptop repair scene.
 

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Thanks for including that, I somehow either blanked out on or missed that specific exchange. It may be circumstantial, but it could be justification for this Ellie/Dylan path that now I'm dying to explore. I'd like to know outside of repairing the laptop, what are the other triggers for this route?
As long as you did the bathroom scene with Sophia when Dylan is in the shower and didn't remind Dylan to lock the door when Sophia left, and you play the beach scene with Dylan and Sophia with the Viagra, you should get these scenes to trigger their side event. Oh, and don't send him to boarding school either.

And in the evening on the next P.D. (13), there is an evening event that you will have to choose between Sophia/Dylan or Dylan/Ellie. There is a strong possibility that it will cancel other relationship routes in the future. So you may want to have 2 different saves at this point to explore both paths.
 
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Seriously, there's an actual Dylan/Ellie path? I would almost be content even if there is no Dylan/Ellie/Sophia, just to see them finally become close and no longer hostile, as long as Ellie doesn't go all tsundere on Dylan.

I would disagree that it would be a Dylan harem since he still technically is introverted and shy around the girls he isn't related to, so if he 'practiced' on them, it's not like he'll magically have a harem overnight if at all. Best case scenario, he beds Sophia, Ellie and maybe Patricia, but considering all the available L.I. I wouldn't call it a harem per se.

In my current PT, I avoided the Emma hookup, because personally I think he can do better, and I'd rather her keep her crush on Sophia (the true harem hero). Outside of his interest in Marie, which is one-sided at the moment, he's single so for any harem to happen, he'd need to add Christine, Emma, Marie, Claire and even Amber, not to mention ridiculous levels of suspension of disbelief.
Right now, L&P is locking harems out. So you will most likely have to choose a particular woman when you come to a crossroads. In the current version, an example of this is when you send Dylan to boarding school, it becomes the Dylan/Amber show or if Sophia chooses Dylan/Emma. Both these paths stop Dylan/Sophia. Also; In the next P.D. (13), you will have the option in the evening to choose among Sopha/Dylan or Dylan/Ellie or Dylan/Emma. Dylan/Emma already canceled out Sophia/Dylan, and Dylan/Ellie will likely cancel out Sophia/Dylan too.

The closes thing you may get to a harem at this point is the hints of threesomes with certain combos. Sophia/Dylan/Patricia.
 

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In the next P.D. (13), you will have the option in the evening to choose among Sopha/Dylan or Dylan/Ellie or Dylan/Emma. Dylan/Emma already canceled out Sophia/Dylan, and Dylan/Ellie will likely cancel out Sophia/Dylan too.
Also, if this L&P's quote is still valid
All I can say is that there are some really hot scenes planned for the next 3 playable days. Especially end of playable day 13 and 14! Of course we're talking here about more and much more daring scenes then we got now. Mostly hetero. And of course in the future too.
at least one of the three events could be an "interesting" event :)
(unless it refers to the Sophia/Dylan happening before the 3 parallel events you mention)

Just one thought on your Aiden Task 3 decision matrix. The matrix makes little sense for further extortion channels. From this point on, the developer would have to come up with different routes that differ further and further as the process progresses. But maybe it makes sense when using Morello's favor. L&P has said that the ability to end the blackmailing of Morello depends on previous decisions. If Sophia knows that Ares Aiden was hiding under the mask, when she was exposed to his gross sexual harassment, then maybe she will be afraid of not getting the whole blackmail story under control. Or at least get seriously damaged in the process. And the Morello option is available. In the other case, Sophia believes the thing is manageable and is also fun. And Morello option is not available.
To be clear, I just put that on the table for discussion. As I said, I always favour simplicity and I'd rather avoid new branches that make the game complex. At the same time, for the sake of speculation, we cannot completely neglect that, maybe it won't have major consequences on the game (branches), just some different dialogues that somehow fix the gap and bring the 3 onto a common path again (wishful thinking here ;) ). Or maybe nothing at all (but it will be strange).
My post was just a "But what if?" and a "let's leave no stone unturned" ;)

As for Morello, I think the conditions to be met are those concerning Larry and how far Sophia went with him. Again, multiple endings exist even for that, depending on how many Larry's points you get. Probably getting to the "cumare" status (i.e. she shows the breasts) **could** be, e.g. the threshold/condition. I seem to remember that KillJoys once said that it could be even much less than that.
Anyways, it's just to rectify that getting Morello's help depends on Sophia/Larry.
Then, the possibility that Sophia can ask Morello to end Aiden's extortion depending on the endings of the 3rd task is indeed interesting and it makes sense story-wise.
Maybe this will piss off those who are playing Aiden's Path only because required by other storylines and they don't want to see much of the event (i.e. stopping at Helena's pose). Also it increases a bit the complexity being the combination of different endings of two different events/storylines (again, it's my entropy-phobia speaking ;) ). For sure if the whole story were just Aiden and Morello it definitely has merit IMO.
 
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Given where you had said previously you had got to at that point in time, I was trying very hard not to talk too much of what was coming up so as not to give any advance spoilers for your first playthrough.

Yes - I did mean that scene. First thing I should say is that, to the best of my recollection, we still don't know in game quite why Ellie seems to hate Dylan at the very start of the story so vehemently. Various people have speculated on why that might be but I don't want to go back over that - maybe it might be clarified by L&P in future, maybe it will remain just setting out the story opening.

Then moving forward in the storyline re beach Viagra prank, again yes I think Ellie totally overcompensated and Sophia was surprisingly lenient - again that particular prank has been discussed many times before and I don't want to provoke yet further discussion on it - just noting that I agree with your criticism of Ellie for the beach prank.

So what I want to focus on is Dylan fixing her laptop, and yes Ellie is still being a bit of a bitch to Dylan and yes she is annoyingly snooping round his room. But overall I seem to come away from that scene with a different overall impression that you did. To me it is the first time that Dylan acts more mature than he had been earlier in the story. He does nt get provoked by her jibes, and at the end, all he wants in payment for his efforts is an affectionate hug and thanks from his sister. That is progress from Dylan's perspective.

And also look at Ellie's reaction to Dylan - it feels to me as the turning point in their relationship. I don't know if we will ever get any sexual scenes between Dylan and Ellie, but if we do then it will be based on storylines starting from this scene.

We might get a sense of that in the next update when we have already seen the preview of Dylan with Ellie and Christiine in the back garden seating area. Maybe that might lead to Ellie setting Dylan up with Christine - to me that is not something that could have happened before the laptop repair scene.
The only clue we are given why Ellie 'hates' Dylan is her justification for the prank, specifically, he purportedly groped her (we only have her word on this, not his), previously called her a slut, and the final straw was the bathroom incident, which even after Sophia admitted too, Ellie still refused to back down and be apologetic.

Despite my initial disgust with Ellie's behavior first demanding help to fix her laptop to her hypocritical behavior accusing Dylan for the same behavior she exhibits while in his room, I did walk away with a slightly optimistic change in her impression of Dylan. I did notice for once, he had more self-confidence and did not allow her to get him flustered or to dominate as she may be used to dealing with him. I loved the fact he called her out on her shit and gave it right back to her. I did see her shock and suspicion on his payment for his services, an actual apology and normal sibling affection in the form of a chaste hug and kiss on the cheek.

Given how she visually and physically she loosens up after the embrace and for once not have a sneer on her face when talking to him, makes it appear she is softening her position on him and maybe willing to start to lower that wall she's put up between them. While I personally don't like Christine, it would be interesting if Ellie talks to her friend about Dylan to get an idea how she really feels about him and if she should set them up. I would love it even more if while setting up an impromptu event where Christine comes over to hang out while Dylan is around for her to talk to/flirt with, Ellie finds herself becoming increasingly annoyed with their banter and Christine's obvious flirtatious interaction leading her to question why it bothers her so much until the conversation in the shower with Sophia replayed in her head and it dawns on her maybe she is jealous any other female getting too close to Dylan. She may try to play it off as just over-protectiveness, though considering their adversarial interactions in the past, she knows that's probably not entirely true.
Right now, L&P is locking harems out. So you will most likely have to choose a particular woman when you come to a crossroads. In the current version, an example of this is when you send Dylan to boarding school, it becomes the Dylan/Amber show or if Sophia chooses Dylan/Emma. Both these paths stop Dylan/Sophia. Also; In the next P.D. (13), you will have the option in the evening to choose among Sopha/Dylan or Dylan/Ellie or Dylan/Emma. Dylan/Emma already canceled out Sophia/Dylan, and Dylan/Ellie will likely cancel out Sophia/Dylan too.

The closes thing you may get to a harem at this point is the hints of threesomes with certain combos. Sophia/Dylan/Patricia.
Just out of curiosity, what is the supposed 'secret' that comes out as a result of sending the boys to boarding school? Looking through the WT, it mentions some dark secret that comes to light, but doesn't specify what it is, and in my only save game where I sent him to boarding school, I only got as far as the yoga event.

Wow so Dylan/Amber becomes an actual option? She's kind of been out of the story completely, especially with Alyssa there to take her place as an optional bi-curious fling for Sophia. Hopefully Emma comes back as a side option for Sophia if we chose against hooking her up with Dylan.

I can begrudgingly accept the Sophia/Dylan/Patricia 3some if an actual path is not available. I still want to explore Ellie/Dylan either with someone else or just them exclusively.
 
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