VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.215f] [Lust & Passion]

[Bishop Robert]

Speculation here & on the fan art thread over the latest teaser/spoiler, which to me & many others is just a blur, suggests that something "wild" could happen at the concert. Even the blur seems to show that Sophia & Patricia have chosen to dance provocatively in the bar & put themselves on display for the discerning gentlemen of that establishment.

I don't propose to go again through the various reasons I thought the romper was a bad choice, or the sheer stupidity of Sophia putting those beach balls in the shop window but the crowd chanting, "show us your tits" does seem very plausible to me, as to a lesser extent, does Patricia obliging by lifting Sophia's top up or down, which has been suggested as a response.

I noticed a strange thing over the last month, speaking as someone who has defended the blackmail & coercion in what is after all a corruption game. Righteous indignation & howls of protest regarding the activities of Aiden & Bennett, (remember him?), these I've tried to defend against & counter on numerous occasions. I don't just defend but actively enjoy what the scurrilous pair get up to. Sometimes I've felt like part of a tiny minority. Now, ironically, it's me who doesn't care for the possible, even probable consequences of the sister's activities, or their seemingly naive gyration into real danger, while the majority of fans appear to have no undue worries about the situation.

This is because what could happen in such a setting, with such a well-knit group to encourage each other & demand more & more, would be at an entirely different level & I mean BAD. Now of course we've been assured that there will be no rape in this game but there are things arguably just as bad or worse that can happen with all the ingredients present. It wouldn't follow on from the art class, that's certain. Once more back to my younger years but I'll give you 3 guesses what can be done with a beer bottle & a crowd of inebriated men & NO I wasn't one of the perpetrators but I knew the woman it happened to. It's about realism, yet again. This is probably one time when it's better that we no longer seem to have it in AWAM.

If anything wild happens in the next update it has to between Sam and Sophia. The most I can see happening with Pat would be either her or Sophia flashing at the bar. Whether its by one of them being drunk or Pat just opening up Sophias top forcefully. I say this with no knowledge of what the teaser latest was.

I don't mind Bennett but I don't care for Bennett, he is the one person (regarding possibly flings/sexual-interactions) I have less interest in than Emma. But if a day were to come where say, he got a BJ from Sophia than a thumbs up and prayer from me. Aiden on the other hand I didn't care much for till the Art event which boosted him up in my ranks.

 

[ancienregimele]

The most I can see happening with Pat would be either her or Sophia flashing at the bar. Whether its by one of them being drunk or Pat just opening up Sophias top forcefully. I say this with no knowledge of what the teaser latest was.

That's what worries me. If it does happen & all we get is Sophia partially enjoying public exposure again, it will be one of the most unrealistic scenes so far, to rank alongside taking the subway at night after being warned about the city by Patricia & the daft drive to the workplace for a shower, having just had a bath. I hope something different happens.

 

[Daredevil20]

any update news?

 

[Daredevil20]

This game needs a scene gallery though it doesn't have sex scenes.

 

[Scarlet56]

I don't like the end of day 13.
3 possible choices so 2 lost routes?
Since the Ellie/Dylan story is a bonus, I imagine it's an L&P addition. (Wasn't that part of the main story?)
If so, I would have preferred to have a choice among those offered on the evening of day 13.
My choice + the Ellie/Dylan bonus.
Here unfortunately the choices are "or" and not "and".
That's a shame.

 

[Hlextor]

I don't like the end of day 13.
3 possible choices so 2 lost routes?
Since the Ellie/Dylan story is a bonus, I imagine it's an L&P addition. (Wasn't that part of the main story?)
If so, I would have preferred to have a choice among those offered on the evening of day 13.
My choice + the Ellie/Dylan bonus.
Here unfortunately the choices are "or" and not "and".
That's a shame.

You have to decide for Dylan at noon whether to take the Ellie or the Sophia path. This will result in a Dylan/Sophia -or- Dylan/Ellie event in the evening. Unfortunately, you can't have both. Last I checked, L&P doesn't want a harem for Dylan. Whether his pledgers disagree remains to be seen.

Emma is no choice for me.

 

[VanDarkBalls]

I don't like the end of day 13.
3 possible choices so 2 lost routes?
Since the Ellie/Dylan story is a bonus, I imagine it's an L&P addition. (Wasn't that part of the main story?)
If so, I would have preferred to have a choice among those offered on the evening of day 13.
My choice + the Ellie/Dylan bonus.
Here unfortunately the choices are "or" and not "and".
That's a shame.

The problem in general is that there is a huge variability, it is quite difficult to develop a branched route without a team, it's just crazy, but this is already a hackneyed topic. When I realized that literally my entire gameplay takes 2-3 minutes, I started going through all the routes

 

[Alley_Cat]

The problem in general is that there is a huge variability, it is quite difficult to develop a branched route without a team, it's just crazy, but this is already a hackneyed topic. When I realized that literally my entire gameplay takes 2-3 minutes, I started going through all the routes

How do you only get 2 - 3 minutes for your entire gameplay? Just the content that everyone got last update is 10 minutes at least.

 

[Sabertooth__]

That's what worries me. If it does happen & all we get is Sophia partially enjoying public exposure again, it will be one of the most unrealistic scenes so far, to rank alongside taking the subway at night after being warned about the city by Patricia & the daft drive to the workplace for a shower, having just had a bath. I hope something different happens.

I agree with you on this. It will indeed be very unrealistic if she exhibits her breasts to the people at the bar. Even getting upto dance intimately with Patricia in her romper ( specifically her boob pockets ) Infront of those scary looking men in an unfamiliar bar would need a believable explanation.
The going to school for a bath was a bit of stretch indeed, almost like how compulsive or addicted people can't control themselves, she could have just gone to amber's house for it.

The subway one is still believable to me. In a new city maybe she was not aware that subways can get so empty at around that time. In my city even the last ones are pretty full. Also in general most cities are said to be dangerous at night but you still see people out. I more reasons to be believe it wasn't unrealistic but that's not our discussion.
Hopefully whatever happens at the bar is not a stretch and can be explained in a realistic manner.

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

any update news?

not before xmas

 

[Alley_Cat]

I agree with you on this. It will indeed be very unrealistic if she exhibits her breasts to the people at the bar. Even getting upto dance intimately with Patricia in her romper ( specifically her boob pockets ) Infront of those scary looking men in an unfamiliar bar would need a believable explanation.
The going to school for a bath was a bit of stretch indeed, almost like how compulsive or addicted people can't control themselves, she could have just gone to amber's house for it.

The subway one is still believable to me. In a new city maybe she was not aware that subways can get so empty at around that time. In my city even the last ones are pretty full. Also in general most cities are said to be dangerous at night but you still see people out. I more reasons to be believe it wasn't unrealistic but that's not our discussion.
Hopefully whatever happens at the bar is not a stretch and can be explained in a realistic manner.

Sophia was completely aware of how dangerous the subway is. Patricia told her - it's the reason she has a gun. That's what makes the subway scene unbelievable. The only reason for the scene at all is L&P hinting at rape content further down the line.

 

[Alley_Cat]

I'm not sure Sophia will ever get raped... This does not fit the story at least at this level of progression. However, it is obvious that more content of blackmailing is on the way and not only on Aiden's route...

Rape has already been ruled out by L&P. But task #3 was awfully close, since Aiden went out of his way to hide his identity so that Sophia would allow him to grope her.

And technically the second side job counts as rape too, since the boys are under the age of consent. If this was real life instead of a game, Sophia would have been jailed for what she did.

L&P will probably find some way to rationalise whatever content he is planning.

I'm still expecting something stupid like the bikers getting their floppies and L&P calling it a "hot hetero event".

 

[VanDarkBalls]

How do you only get 2 - 3 minutes for your entire gameplay? Just the content that everyone got last update is 10 minutes at least.

I started playing a long time ago, now it's normal, initially I played purely along the route of Sam and the good wife

 

[ancienregimele]

My best bet for the upcoming bar scenes is that Sophia will get drunk before she goes wild. She can expose her boobs after losing herself in alcohol and music. This may also help accelerating the following events in the story...

As I say that's what worries me. Two gorgeous unaccompanied women, (the band are not their dates), with one of them dressed in a romper which makes her ridiculously oversized breasts look like ripe water-melons before she even moves, dancing provocatively in front of a bar full of hardened drinkers. What could possibly go wrong?

I have a feeling that this will be a major flight of fantasy on the Dev's part & whatever happens will need a bigger than usual suspension of disbelief. Sophia's very appearance already requires this from me. I just hope that I'm wrong about this event & to think, I was looking forward to it.

 

[Sabertooth__]

Sophia was completely aware of how dangerous the subway is. Patricia told her - it's the reason she has a gun. That's what makes the subway scene unbelievable. The only reason for the scene at all is L&P hinting at rape content further down the line.

I don't remember any dialogue about the subway being dangerous. Patricia keeps the gun for going downtown and she asked Sophia to carry pepper spray which she did. Plus Sophia I guess expected to leave earlier than she was able to from Claire's place. Also this was her first time with the subway so there was no way of knowing for her that the station will be so empty.

My best bet for the upcoming bar scenes is that Sophia will get drunk before she goes wild. She can expose her boobs after losing herself in alcohol and music. This may also help accelerating the following events in the story...

If he does then the alcohol cliche will become way too overused. Also I believe Bane71 mentioned clearly that alcohol will not be a deciding factor at all.

Rape has already been ruled out by L&P. But task #3 was awfully close, since Aiden went out of his way to hide his identity so that Sophia would allow him to grope her.

And technically the second side job counts as rape too, since the boys are under the age of consent. If this was real life instead of a game, Sophia would have been jailed for what she did.

L&P will probably find some way to rationalise whatever content he is planning.

I'm still expecting something stupid like the bikers getting their floppies and L&P calling it a "hot hetero event".

Rape is something way too different. Rape necessarily needs to involve penetration. You are really making a mountain out of a molehill by calling those acts rape.

 

[Alley_Cat]

I don't remember any dialogue about the subway being dangerous. Patricia keeps the gun for going downtown and she asked Sophia to carry pepper spray which she did. Plus Sophia I guess expected to leave earlier than she was able to from Claire's place. Also this was her first time with the subway so there was no way of knowing for her that the station will be so empty.


If he does then the alcohol cliche will become way too overused. Also I believe Bane71 mentioned clearly that alcohol will not be a deciding factor at all.


Rape is something way too different. Rape necessarily needs to involve penetration. You are really making a mountain out of a molehill by calling those acts rape.

So it might be sexual assault and not rape. They're still serious crimes.

 

[Sabertooth__]

So it might be sexual assault and not rape. They're still serious crimes.

There are numerous crimes happening in this game. All storylines with sexual acts with 18- characters is a crime since Sophia is 21 yrs older than them at the least. All storylines like Dylan, Sam, Ellie, Julia etc etc. But are we going to go back to talking about what is a crime and what is not. We have discussed that in detail previously. Even in the real world all of this happens and is punishable if caught but most of the times such things only stay behind closed doors.

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

There are numerous crimes happening in this game. All storylines with sexual acts with 18- characters is a crime since Sophia is 21 yrs older than them at the least. All storylines like Dylan, Sam, Ellie, Julia. But are we going to go back to talking about what is a crime and what is not. We have discussed that in detail previously. Even in the real world all of this happens and is punishable if caught but most of the times such things only stay behind closed doors.

the real crime here is 9 months of waiting for some fabric and some pigeons

 

[Bane71]

the real crime here is 9 months of waiting for some fabric and some pigeons

Right! L&P rapes us with a long wait!

 

[r0rschack]

There are numerous crimes happening in this game. All storylines with sexual acts with 18- characters is a crime since Sophia is 21 yrs older than them at the least. All storylines like Dylan, Sam, Ellie, Julia etc etc. But are we going to go back to talking about what is a crime and what is not. We have discussed that in detail previously. Even in the real world all of this happens and is punishable if caught but most of the times such things only stay behind closed doors.

I wish these crimes happened to me when I was in college