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Thanks for that info. But I have a question. If the cause for the error is the hair not being fit properly why is it not there in the other renders. I just checked. I don't think the model is adjusted after every render so why does only one render have that error and not others.
As Alley_Cat has posted it can be fixed easily either by adjusting the forehead deph would solve this error or even Photo Shop.
 

Hlextor

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If a mother having sex with her daughter/son on day 10 is not making sense,it is the same thing on day 20,30,40 even 100.
The devs are just using that as excuse to delay any incest as much as possible.
You are so right! I add to your sentence, why L&P will bring the incest as late as possible. ... so that the tension in the game is maintained and that in turn has the consequence that his supporters, who have chosen Dylan and Ellie as favored characters, will remain for a very long time.
Which makes no sense to me. He could show many interesting incest events with both of them until the end, even if they already had sex on PD 20.
 

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Daz is not hard!!! Hahaha :ROFLMAO:

After the first pose you realize that light is important: Diffuse, Ambient Occlusion, Specular ..... is related to surfaces and surfaces are related to: Normal map, Bump map, Displ Map, ....
And then you get the UVs and you realise you need a 3D Modeller and that's where the fun starts. You have to learn how to use the program correctly so that the result will have a good topology, with well done UVs and associated maps.

Let's say 1 year :unsure::ROFLMAO:
From my post

"It's probably hard to master it". :unsure:

Now go check all games in this website and tell me how many are even using 50% of DAZ potential.
 

L&P's Father-in-Law

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You are so right! I add to your sentence, why L&P will bring the incest as late as possible. ... so that the tension in the game is maintained and that in turn has the consequence that his supporters, who have chosen Dylan and Ellie as favored characters, will remain for a very long time.
Which makes no sense to me. He could show many interesting incest events with both of them until the end, even if they already had sex on PD 20.
L&P is under the wrong impression that he needs to dangle the sex carrot in front of his supporters eyes so they keep paying.

Even the game clearly has a sections where things are starting to get hot fast and then L&P just does a 180 and tames things one more time.
 

BorgiaBou

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He could show many interesting incest events with both of them until the end, even if they already had sex on PD 20.
Yeah you right here, to give you an example is the game A Mother's Love where you can bang the main LI pretty much from the first release and now we are at 10th release, i swear i cannot wait to see what's next with them i do not care that we allready banged her so many times...
I don't get it what's with devs streching so much till we get sex scenes with some characters we love, they're affraid that we'll lose interest or wtf?
Look at Badik i'm a fan of Bella (i know she's the favorite of a lot of guys here) but now i'm afraid that she'll not have so many sex scenes like others had, we are at the end of season 2 and no sex scene with her i mean even Quinn wich btw is not a LI has more sex scenes, c'mon man be serious...
 
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nexer

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We don't have a new teaser, I checked(y), it means the second part, translation and programming will take some time.
The later he publishes a teaser, the shorter the waiting period for the update.
 
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Sabertooth__

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So we have moved on from altitude of airports, number of pigeons and carrying capacity of bags to seemingly arguing over an error that is literally one-hairs breadth??!!

I guess that's progress.....
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:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: Though in this entire discussion I got a chance to increase my knowledge of daz so I'm kinda okay
 

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Friends!, by chance no one knows, after this game, the Developer (ca), is there another game in the plans = novella ??? :FacePalm::love::coffee:;)
 

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Yeah you right here, to give you an example is the game A Mother's Love where you can bang the main LI pretty much from the first release and now we are at 10th release, i swear i cannot wait to see what's next with them i do not care that we allready banged her so many times...
I don't get it what's with devs streching so much till we get sex scenes with some characters we love, they're affraid that we'll lose interest or wtf?
Look at Badik i'm a fan of Bella (i know she's the favorite of a lot of guys here) but now i'm afraid that she'll not have so many sex scenes like others had, we are at the end of season 2 and no sex scene with her i mean even Quinn wich btw is not a LI has more sex scenes, c'mon man be serious...
Or Mother Lovers Society. They've barely unpacked boxes after moving into the new place, and already the daughter gets eaten out by the mother. Last update was the first that didn't have any sex in it. Some of the more mundane stuff is actually what I'm looking forward to.
 

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Clic on latest updates and enjoy urself with better stuff, explore urself as other do, mate.

The quantity of useless and not related with sex scenes renders this guy do may qualify this game as no sexual content-blue ball fest. Maybe u are into reading and blue balling, but not my fetish. Aside this, not a damn animated scene, just renders of a very cliche and predictable story of the boring housewife, a retarded cucked son and some titty, sometimes.

Kill it with fire.
I find myself agreeing with Sabertooth__ in the essence you are a waste of time. You say nothing new. Add nothing to the discussion. Rant at others for whatever reason. I guess it is your jolly for the day. If you don't like the work say so once,or not at all. All you prove is there are trolls of all flavors across the membership here.
 

armion82

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He could do that but then it won't be fun. The incest to me seems like the ultimate downfall. So it would make sense towards the end. In any show you don't have the main character and main villian fight all out in the first few episodes, you save it till the end, that's how it is
You don't get what we are talking about.
There is no problem to keep the incest for later.
I am talking about how the devs are using the same excuse-it's incest so it must be the last thing.
If Sophia is not ready for incest on day 15,she will be not ready on day 20,or 30,or 40,or 100.Or even on day 1000.
 

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You don't get what we are talking about.
There is no problem to keep the incest for later.
I am talking about how the devs are using the same excuse-it's incest so it must be the last thing.
If Sophia is not ready for incest on day 15,she will be not ready on day 20,or 30,or 40,or 100.Or even on day 1000.
Okay, initially I didn't get your discussion but what you say now is also not agreeable. She was not ready to even imagine cheating on her husband on day 1, now things are going complete opposite. The reason why a story is told is because things change, characters change, the events of the story change them. So saying if she won't do it on day 10 she wouldn't do it on day 1000 as well is not correct. With each passing day L&P is building up to it. Most games don't do that buildup. With each passing day she is getting closer to doing it.

Any character can do anything as long as it is properly written and built up. The whole logic that if she doesn't do it at the beginning she will never do it till the end is flawed. Ofcourse if she is explicitly asked will she commit incest, the answer will always be a no but what is going on in her mind and the actions in the moment are speaking something completely different
 
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hzjujk

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Okay, initially I didn't get your discussion but what you say now is also not agreeable. She was not ready to even imagine cheating on her husband on day 1, now things are going complete opposite. The reason why a story is told is because things change, characters change, the events of the story change them. So saying if she won't do it on day 10 she wouldn't do it on day 1000 as well is not correct. With each passing day L&P is building up to it. Most games don't do that buildup. With each passing day she is getting closer to doing it.

Any character can do anything as long as it is properly written and built up. The whole logic that if she doesn't do it at the beginning she will never do it till the end is flawed. Ofcourse if she is explicitly asked will she commit incest, the answer will always be a no but what is going on in her mind and the actions in the moment are speaking something completely different
No, it will not be the thrill for someone who does not break this taboo, even after the 1000 day. And since Sophia has enough other sex partners available, she shouldn't even think about having sex with her son or daughter. In my opinion, even a logical structure of the story will not change that. Sophia has either always turned on / aroused taboos or it is not credible. And Sophia seems to have passed on this desire to cross boundaries to her children. Of course, you can again blame the Internet for giving children such thoughts.
 

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You don't get what we are talking about.
There is no problem to keep the incest for later.
I am talking about how the devs are using the same excuse-it's incest so it must be the last thing.
If Sophia is not ready for incest on day 15,she will be not ready on day 20,or 30,or 40,or 100.Or even on day 1000.
I don't get your logic. What is so special about day 15? Why not day 14? 10? Hell, why not day 1?
 

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No, it will not be the thrill for someone who does not break this taboo, even after the 1000 day. And since Sophia has enough other sex partners available, she shouldn't even think about having sex with her son or daughter. In my opinion, even a logical structure of the story will not change that. Sophia has either always turned on / aroused taboos or it is not credible. And Sophia seems to have passed on this desire to cross boundaries to her children. Of course, you can again blame the Internet for giving children such thoughts.
The reason to have sex with someone is not that you don't have other options. It is the attraction that is felt. Sophia never thought about sexual situations with her children just like she never considered getting aroused by being in embarrassing situations in the Aiden task.

From this point in her life she has started to experience such sexual situations with her own children. And when alone this is what would run through her mind. The more she thinks about it - it will only lead to two things, either she will be completely disgusted by herself or she will start to like it.

Presently what is happening is Sophia isn't aware of the sexual side of this. Her dialogues with Ellie and Dylan are more with their respective themes like for Dylan it is sex ed. Though she doesn't yet think sexually about what she is doing, this is still incestuous. So in future this could slip further in a moment of expansion leading to acts that make her realise what she has been doing.

Though in all honesty I wouldn't want her to actually have sex with her children. More so with Dylan ( since he is a bit less mature than Ellie, Ellie can move on, Dylan won't be able to ). The consequences of sex with her children are way too serious to ignore. And that's where it will be quite a test for L&P on how he writes the scene and potrays the consequences. Because if he can't all the effort to try and be as realistic as possible will be in vain.

But if he does have a scene with mother and son sex and is able to handle it really well. Keep it real, show the consequences and move the story on. In my eyes he would be an exceptional writer. So as long as he can justify that I am all for incest too. To me that scenario is impossible to imagine without it becoming a daily nuisance for Sophia, sooner or later pulling Ellie into this which Liam will found out at some point leading to lots of fights, divorce etc etc.
 
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IMO it's an error of whoever created the hair. It should have been fixed, but I guess he didn't notice it.
In the picture, Sophia raises her eyebrows, which causes a change in the character's mesh, and the hair mesh remains fixed.

The line you see on her forehead is a hairline, and we can see that it's on the "right" side as well.

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Yeah, that's the problem with this hair. Always, when she rises her eyebrows to a certain limit, it causes this issue. Sometimes I just forget to adjust the Hairline and Head Size of it at such kind of expressions. I adjusted the base of it to around 0.35. If I'd higher the value, then the hair stands too far away from her head. I usually edit this in Photoshop if I forget to adjust it in such a "higher eyebrow case" in Daz Studio. But if you have like 1000 renders which you need to edit, it can sometimes happen that you overlook some minor tiny mistakes. I'm also just a human and don't have anyone who's controlling every render with a loupe afterwards. And I'm even sure that not everybody would see this immediately.

Viper's just trying once again in a lousy way to reduce my work by finding very, very few small, minor mistakes and trying to generalize them as if my work is worth shit, and he could do much better if he'd take the time, which is just an unfunny, overbearing joke! If you'd pack out that loupe for every game, you'd find mistakes in almost every render while with me it's just in a very few ones! Which is just human! And they're not even that conspicuous.

No, wrong, L&P never makes errors.
I really would so much like to do a tutorial video and show you how much wrong you are by thinking this is so easy and quick to create scenes like I do, and especially in that complexity and size! Just the lighting and lighting-effects can take you hours to adjust them the proper way, so that you got a pleasant light/shadow play in the scene! That's why I also can't just render overnight the scenes in a row because every camera angle needs different lighting adjustments and also ton mapping adjustments and other stuff. Plus the detailed work with Photoshop where yeah, sometimes I can overlook something since I'm not a robot!

You think that just because you worked a bit with Daz Studio, you know everything? Just throwing around with resentments and half-knowledge! While in reality, you know shit about me and the amount of work, knowledge, skill and artistic taste which is needed to make scenes like I do!

You're like that moron who bought a super expensive professional aero bike, rode around the park and already think you can also easily ride the Tour de France!

And no, I don't use expression presets since my demo! I'm only working with the posing tab where you got the expressions, mouth, nose, cheeks and brows adjustments. I always change them manually to have the 100% control about the expressions. Yeah, I use preset poses. But 98% of them are shit and look the way like no one would position him/herself in reality. So, I change practically everything in these poses to make them look much more realistic!

I'd just need to do such a tutorial video where I show and explain what everything is needed to make the scenes the way I do. How much stuff you need to know and pay attention to. How difficult it is to create such atmospheric lighting and rays! Etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. Plus the Photoshop after work. Just to make the complete fool out of you! But I don't give people a free tutorial just to prove one troll idiot wrong!

Man, just look at the faces in your renders! They look like dead or as if they're retarded! The poses are basic and easy with mistakes! The people don't even look at the "woman" on the bull! You don't even adjusted that! Her straps look like as if they're dappled in cement! Hair looks shit! You're lighting is so poor and basic! Probably also no Photoshop afterwork! No nothing! It's such a poor, tasteless and easy scene! Just used the standard prop lighting by just adjusting the brightness of it. Wow, a really hard job! Everything is bright. No shadow effects! No effects in general! Nothing! It looks boring as fuck!

First create around 10.000 renders of my quality, with hundreds of different own adjusted huge environments and places! Write hundreds of pages of story! Adjust all the renders in Photoshop to have zero mistakes in them! Just try it! And do it almost every day for 2-3 years and look yourself how relaxed that is and how little time it costs! Then we can talk!

When I started, I also thought that it's so easy, and I created much more renders per day. But then I realized that this is a marathon and not a 100 m sprint! And I'm just a one-man army. Plus gaining more experience meant knowing more possibilties to make the art better and better. Which doesn't go just by itself but needs actual work! More work!

But as long as your renders look that poor and amateurish, and you never wrote any good story and dialogues to them, you really better should shut the fuck up! You're like an April Fools' joke at Christmas and really seems to have no life to find so much time to post so much overbearing bullshit in a know-it-all manner, just to try to put my work down! While showing nothing better yourself!
 
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