VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.215f] [Lust & Passion]

[Alley_Cat]

I was going to comment on the bar, car & hot tub segment but I see the arguments about production have broken out again. I try to stay out of them because I have no rendering skills & I'm not a Patron. I will repeat, however, that if we ever see one update per month, as in two in a row, I'll be pleasantly amazed.

As for the Sam thing, I've already said that I enjoyed the update taken as a whole & I did but originally I went on that particular route mainly as another way to try & avoid the incest. It's a path that requires a great deal of "suspension of disbelief". This time though, as far as the hot tub sequence was concerned, it required the placing of disbelief in a hot air balloon basket & ascending to 5,000 feet.

It seems Sam is so virginal that he's never even kissed a girl properly, let alone had sexual relations of any description. He's a handsome, hormonal teenager so WTF? What's more, this lack of experience has done nothing to dent his confidence in trying it on with a beautiful, sophisticated woman, more than twice his age. This lad is incredible & while I could just about accept the old 'yawn & arm round the shoulder trick,' which most of us must have done at some point, [I did that a lot], the handling of breasts, sucking nipples & even putting his mouth where it would be most effective AND doing all these things with an effortless expertise.....it was almost surreal. No, it WAS surreal because Liam was right there FFS.

I really expected just a kiss & perhaps some fairly basic fumbling in the car.

Many times I've identified with some of the behaviour of the characters in this VN but Sam's pool performance resembles nothing in my teenage experience, or that of anyone I knew & that goes double for the time before we'd had sex. [Cue smart arse post about how when so & so was still a virgin they seduced a famous pinup, or some such complete bollocks].

I almost expected Liam to say, " what's that dark shape between your legs darling?" Sophia might have replied, " Oh, that's the sea lion I've been asked to look after by a friend." It would have been just as believable as what actually occurred.

Curious that this is the first time I think I've particularly noticed someone saying an event went too far in terms of it's overall pacing. But then the first proper kiss from a male other than Liam was always going to be a watershed moment. I agree it was probably too soon. PD 13 would probably have been better.

So the overall feeling I get about people's response to the update is:
Nat event: Awesome. The Nat storyline might in fact be a GW lesbian storyline, possibly bordering on Filthy route, and not the GW threesome I was expecting. But could still go either way. The idea we might still be able to exclude Liam is promising though.

Bonus storyline: Pretty much a letdown. Not only was the event more Dylan/Christine than Dylan/Ellie many were expecting, but the best those playing the event got was underboob. In the Yoga event there was Sophia and Patricia completely naked. A rather huge step backward. But then considering the Dylan route has the most events but the slowest storyline, what else do you expect? (Anyone that complains this game is blueballing, I wouldn't at all be surprised if they're just playing the Dylan route)

Sam event: While many that got the event enjoyed it, the pace may have been off. Those that did enjoy it seemed to enjoy Sam getting a proper Frenchy before Dylan. And the boob suck. While Jules got close, I believe Sam is now the closest to tasting Sophia's nips.

Cathy event: Pretty boring, but needed to be done for the swinger event. No real surprises here.

 

[Meaning Less]

cheating tag?

 

[Alley_Cat]

Don't let the jerks ruin the thread for you. Just use the ignore button and you'll never see their rants.

The problem with that is that sometimes people surprise you. For example, I pretty much disagree with everything ancienregimele says, on blackmail, on incest, etc, etc. But their last post, particularly concerning the Sam event, I found informative and useful.

Those that don't use critical thinking, yeah, ignore them. As long as you don't throw out those in the middle in the process. Those that you may not necessarily agree with most of the time, but can occasionally bring up good points.

Personally, I like reading the posts of those I think are unthinking idiots. Confirms to me they're unthinking idiots, thus not worth responding to. And those capable of critical thinking on occasion I can like when I see the need.

 

[loli13]

Does anyone know if and when the path with the thugs will continue?

Last scene was in the subway. If I do remeber correctly.

Hope it has not been abandoned

 

[jumanji262]

homeboy gone from touching fabric to french kissing,boob fondling,almost oral....in single update...

 

[jumanji262]

thts a sad thing fr Dylan fans fr sure

 

[ShawnLee95Gamer]

LP taking a very long vacation this time...

Was hoping be done with next update before end of this year but now seems impossible especially how slow he likes to take ...

 

[ashitanojoe]

I know this is completely off-topic, but y'all might want to take a look at this thread about the connection issues on F95 as we currently don't have any kind of statement coming from the staff or administration regarding this situation.

Connection issues & Possible cause?

I highly recommend taking a look at this for you own safety. If what this user posted is the truth, user accounts could potentially be compromised.

Do not the most of the people login here from their IP address?

 

[Alley_Cat]

Does anyone know if and when the path with the thugs will continue?

Last scene was in the subway. If I do remeber correctly.

Hope it has not been abandoned

I think it's pretty much time to say to give up on those fucktards. From what we can tell, those useless detritus are only returning at the end of the game. And from what we can tell at the pace of updates, we'll never get to the end of game. So yeah, the game will likely be abandoned before those POS come back.

 

[Sabertooth__]

I was going to comment on the bar, car & hot tub segment but I see the arguments about production have broken out again. I try to stay out of them because I have no rendering skills & I'm not a Patron. I will repeat, however, that if we ever see one update per month, as in two in a row, I'll be pleasantly amazed.

As for the Sam thing, I've already said that I enjoyed the update taken as a whole & I did but originally I went on that particular route mainly as another way to try & avoid the incest. It's a path that requires a great deal of "suspension of disbelief". This time though, as far as the hot tub sequence was concerned, it required the placing of disbelief in a hot air balloon basket & ascending to 5,000 feet.

It seems Sam is so virginal that he's never even kissed a girl properly, let alone had sexual relations of any description. He's a handsome, hormonal teenager so WTF? What's more, this lack of experience has done nothing to dent his confidence in trying it on with a beautiful, sophisticated woman, more than twice his age. This lad is incredible & while I could just about accept the old 'yawn & arm round the shoulder trick,' which most of us must have done at some point, [I did that a lot], the handling of breasts, sucking nipples & even putting his mouth where it would be most effective AND doing all these things with an effortless expertise.....it was almost surreal. No, it WAS surreal because Liam was right there FFS.

I really expected just a kiss & perhaps some fairly basic fumbling in the car.

Many times I've identified with some of the behaviour of the characters in this VN but Sam's pool performance resembles nothing in my teenage experience, or that of anyone I knew & that goes double for the time before we'd had sex. [Cue smart arse post about how when so & so was still a virgin they seduced a famous pinup, or some such complete bollocks].

I almost expected Liam to say, " what's that dark shape between your legs darling?" Sophia might have replied, " Oh, that's the sea lion I've been asked to look after by a friend." It would have been just as believable as what actually occurred.

This is just my perspective on what you said. Ofcourse you are entitled to your opinion but I wanted to provide another perspective and if you can maybe find things you agree with or maybe this can help you accept the scene more.

Sam is just a 16 year old guy, so I think it's perfectly normal for him to not have had sex with anyone. His looks could get him in a relationship but maybe he just does not have it in him to actually maintain the relationship. He was pretty cringy in his interaction with Sophia as well. Also not evey girl just gives into getting intimately close to a guy. Maybe his former gf was conservative about this. Or Maybe his relationship didn't last long. There could be numerous factors that could be a cause for him not having had a proper passionate kiss before.

Since I am constantly in touch with teenagers, I can tell you that they sure have a lot of confidence. Sam's confidence was primarily because of a successful performance infront of an audience like the bikers. He was over the moon as the lines clearly suggest throughout the scenes. I used think I deserve the world as well when I won any big competition, that every wish of mine should be fulfilled today. So for me Sam's confidence is understandable.

I don't think Sam's breast handling skills or sucking skills were supremely praised at all in the scene. Also I think that only happened when Liam was talking with Sophia and so Sophia couldn't immediately stop him. The immorality of the situation could be a reason for the turn on and not the very action by Sam. At no point he was potrayed as an expert at what he was doing. The way I read the lines and re-read them while playing, it came pretty obvious to me that he is just doing whatever he can. Also one needs to understand Sophia's state.

Most important is that Sophia has constantly been teased and edged and then left just like that. Her body will feel good with touches like these and her longing because of being denied starts Playing a huge factor. Add to that the wine which was also mentioned as a cause for what is happening. Sophia also resists quite a bit. It is only when she voluntarily allows Sam to kiss her that things go out of control and she slips which I believe is acceptable since while kissing one can easily lose themselves.

The things that happened in the scene can be considered more than expected. And I believe towards the end I was feeling that maybe this is going a little overboard and should stop. Luckily Liam came in time and stops it. Also Sophia's reaction to what happened saves the scene for me. She wanted to end this the next time they meet, which was a natural reaction to whatever she did. She also didn't accept what Sam did and actually got angry with him for what he did infront of her husband. Also a nice thing that L&P did was that he did not acknowledge porn game like thoughts, eg. Sophia getting turned on and thinking to her self that what Sam did infront of her husband turned her on and she sees him more of a man. The kind of thoughts that are commonly shown in porn games but are not real at all.

She put her hand in between and kept Liam's face to the other side, plus with water and from where Liam was standing I can give the benefit of doubt that Sam may not be seen. especially because Liam has no reason to suspect that someone will be in there with Sophia and so wouldn't try to look inside or have any suspicions.

You mentioned that it resembles nothing like when you were a teenager. Please don't take this negatively, I absolutely mean no disrespect with this but maybe things have changed and it is now a possibility. Sam was not shown as an expert at all in my opinion. He kept fiddling around and the alcohol and lack of physical touch for Sophia made it possible. Her being constantly teased and denied is a huge factor too.

This is just my thoughts. If you agree with any of it, that's great or we can continue the way things are.

 

[roro]

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[loli13]

I think it's pretty much time to say to give up on those fucktards. From what we can tell, those useless detritus are only returning at the end of the game. And from what we can tell at the pace of updates, we'll never get to the end of game. So yeah, the game will likely be abandoned before those POS come back.

It's sad Your words do, unfortunatly for us all, make sense.

There was so much more potential till now that has been spilled.

Let's hope we will see at least some action if we dont get to see the end

 

[Bane71]

It's sad Your words do, unfortunatly for us all, make sense.

There was so much more potential till now that has been spilled.

Let's hope we will see at least some action if we dont get to see the end

Sometimes I talk to L&P and perhaps this information will give you some strength and patience to wait for the desired plot in the game.

When I asked him if he had enough strength, perseverance and desire to successfully complete AWAM, he answered me that there is no doubt some fatigue and he really has to work a lot and painstakingly on the details of various plots of the game. It is especially difficult to write really interesting and original dialogues for the heroes, but it is aimed at success and creating a full-fledged game with many routes and heroes and it still has the fuse, excitement and great desire. Otherwise it was not worth starting.

I was very encouraged by his answer, I think he will go much further in creating this game than many people imagine.

 

[Lio.k01]

From this scene, as I understand it, Seme has a big chance to fuck Sophia first .. yes?

 

[Lio.k01]

I guess it's a matter of time before he puts it in, haha

 

[BorgiaBou]

I guess it's a matter of time before he puts it in, haha

Yeah a matter of 4 years...

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

Sometimes I talk to L&P and perhaps this information will give you some strength and patience to wait for the desired plot in the game.

When I asked him if he had enough strength, perseverance and desire to successfully complete AWAM, he answered me that there is no doubt some fatigue and he really has to work a lot and painstakingly on the details of various plots of the game. It is especially difficult to write really interesting and original dialogues for the heroes, but it is aimed at success and creating a full-fledged game with many routes and heroes and it still has the fuse, excitement and great desire. Otherwise it was not worth starting.

I was very encouraged by his answer, I think he will go much further in creating this game than many people imagine.

I would also be very excited if I had the same financial income

 

[Bane71]

I would also be very excited if I had the same financial income

On this forum, many argue that making such a game is very simple and besides, it can be done faster, they say.
Maybe they are right?
And you should try !?
Then you will receive no less than what the L&P receives.

 

[Lio.k01]

who knows where to download the Russian version with mods ?!

 

[armion82]

1st big hetero sex scene with an important character: Within the next 4 playable days
2nd big hetero sex scene with an important character: Within the next 4 playable days

Interesting choice of words.
1.Do we know the important characters?Sophia,Liam,Elly,Dylan,Sam,Patricia.Maybe also Alyssa and Aiden.
2.Do we know what the dev count as sex scene?Vaginal and anal?Blowjob?Or also handjob,footjob,titjob etc

"Within the next 4 playable days" means in exactly 4 days.
So 2 "big hetero sex scene with an important character" on day 16.
Because day 15 is only 1 big event and no male characters at all.
1.Day 16 is Elly's day-at least 4 events with Elly,probably not all with Sophia.
2.Day 16 is without any Sophia/Dylan events.
3.I doubt that both sex scenes will be same characters.

My guess for one of the sex scenes is either A,B or C

A.Elly/Logan
B.Dylan/Amber
C.Dylan/Christine

All 3 fulfill the requirements "big hetero sex scene with an important character" as important character is Elly or Dylan.

Ther second sex scene must be with Sophia.

Only 3 possible partners.
Unless the dev gives us a sex scene with any no-important male.After all Sophia couts as important character.

1.Dylan-no way.Even if he decide to add Sophia/Dylan event,there is not enough time to make a progress even to a handjob.
2.Sam-almost 100%,especially if we are not talking for sex.
3.Aiden-not enough time and definitely way too early.We just get task 4.No way to get anything that sexual before task 7.