VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.215f] [Lust & Passion]

[sheatfish]

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There's more about it than you can guess at first glance. She also won't go exactly like this "revealing" above to work.
It's maybe a little difficult to see but yes she's wearing stockings.

I want Sofia to wear shoes in the likeness of this:

 

[ancienregimele]

I noticed this at my job, women are losing their mind and they want adventures on the side. There are several reasons:

How many women had affairs? Were they all "middle-aged"? That's a very general sweeping statement. Over a long & chequered career I encountered a few people having affairs, certainly. There was no real common denominator & those involved were as varied as the rest of us, as were the motivations concerned. Elements like the menopause, 7-year itch etc., are just trotted out as weak excuses. Straightforward sexual temptation is usually the start point for whatever gender or age the participants are, or in other words, it's about pleasure seeking. I don't believe that particular types, or age groups are more prone to these affairs than others. "Sick of the marriage" is the soundest reason you give.

I also worked with women who looked & dressed as good as Sophia in the latest spoiler (& I mean a lot). They weren't desparate to prove anything, as they didn't really have to & whether they contemplated a fling with a stranger, I've no idea. They never said. If they indeed took part in some of the actions you list, all I can say is that it was working.

L&P ideally should provide some solid reason(s) for Sophia to have an affair or two. At present it's all about her being self-centred & becoming bored with a husband she feels is too absent &/or under-performing. Maybe this will have to be enough but IMO, she wouldn't launch into an affair with her son's friend in the expectation that a 17 year old virgin was going to satisfy her sexually for example! Also, how could Sam support her in the style to which she's become accustomed? Reasons become even harder to find for why she might embark on incestuous, potentially life-destroying liaisons with blood relatives, Again, it has to be about pleasure in the moment & to hell with the consequences.

I will say, however, that I totally agree with your choice of shoes to go with that suit.

 

[Sabertooth__]

How many women had affairs? Were they all "middle-aged"? That's a very general sweeping statement. Over a long & chequered career I encountered a few people having affairs, certainly. There was no real common denominator & those involved were as varied as the rest of us, as were the motivations concerned. Elements like the menopause, 7-year itch etc., are just trotted out as weak excuses. Straightforward sexual temptation is usually the start point for whatever gender or age the participants are, or in other words, it's about pleasure seeking. I don't believe that particular types, or age groups are more prone to these affairs than others. "Sick of the marriage" is the soundest reason you give.

I also worked with women who looked & dressed as good as Sophia in the latest spoiler (& I mean a lot). They weren't desparate to prove anything, as they didn't really have to & whether they contemplated a fling with a stranger, I've no idea. They never said. If they indeed took part in some of the actions you list, all I can say is that it was working.

L&P ideally should provide some solid reason(s) for Sophia to have an affair or two. At present it's all about her being self-centred & becoming bored with a husband she feels is too absent &/or under-performing. Maybe this will have to be enough but IMO, she wouldn't launch into an affair with her son's friend in the expectation that a 17 year old virgin was going to satisfy her sexually for example! Also, how could Sam support her in the style to which she's become accustomed? Reasons become even harder to find for why she might embark on incestuous, potentially life-destroying liaisons with blood relatives, Again, it has to be about pleasure in the moment & to hell with the consequences.

I will say, however, that I totally agree with your choice of shoes to go with that suit.

You made a point that I have mentioning here for so long. Sam, Dylan can't really be partners for Sophia. And hence why I have felt that sex should not ensue between them.

It will really complicate things and writing a realistic story from that point onwards is an extremely huge challenge. Especially when L&P can't stop the sexual Interactions from continuing since this is a porn game at the end. He has to continue adding sexual scenes with these characters. To make them logical would require skill I doubt even professional writers might not possess.

She has everything right now and squandering it away for some teenage boys who can't really take care of her, provide for her, is stupid when she has a loving husband like Liam

 

[SubtleHustle]

We can Trust L&P word i think we gonna get awesome Hotter & hotter scenes in upcoming updates.

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Hahah, next 4 playable days. Translation, at least 3 years. And that's being generous.

 

[SubtleHustle]

A large number of "garbage" renders, in which the position of bodies, heads, etc. has slightly changed.

This! I noticed this throughout as well. Felt like I was playing a sequel by a well known development company that was recently bought by EA. Fucking hell! Cookie cutter renders slightly changed from the previous as some kind of distraction for walls of text meant to be inner monologue. Nothing wrong with seeing some thought processes from the protagonist, but it gets excessive very quickly.

 

[XTZ Adult Games]

This! I noticed this throughout as well. Felt like I was playing a sequel by a well known development company that was recently bought by EA. Fucking hell! Cookie cutter renders slightly changed from the previous as some kind of distraction for walls of text meant to be inner monologue. Nothing wrong with seeing some thought processes from the protagonist, but it gets excessive very quickly.

As a Dev myself, I can guess (I think) where these renders are coming from, and why.
But first, let me say that I do not think it's from cutting any corners. It's still time consuming to render, and definitely to enter in code.

I did not play this version yet, so I am talking in general about this thought-process.
It usually happens in the bits of the story where the visuals don't change much - the character just talks to someone, or just thinks to self.
It's visually boring, but essential to the story.
So you have to show the text.
Then it's simply a choice between letting the image just stay there, unchanged, while you let the lines role; or do a bit of extra renders - different angles, different character expressions on so on - and put them in.

So it may appear as slacking, but it's actually the better and more professional thing to do.

Again, I did not have the time to play this update yet, but from what I've seen from this game so far, I think this is the case.
So no need to be mad at it

 

[DIRTY FILTHY Animal]

With and with out blouse/bra
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Without bra Please

 

[mamlas55]

yeah without, surely

 

[L&P's Father-in-Law]

The graph is just his self-reported progress. I’ve also been doing some arithmetic on the side. A release after Jan 22 (allowing a generous 8 days of zero progress from Christmas through New Year’s Day) is a definite slowdown.

What? L&P slowing down patch after patch? It can't be.

 

[L&P's Father-in-Law]

the left hand pose is really wrong. says there are socks? but I don't see them, they are usually seen in the toes where they are thickest. in this photo she is wearing a bra, but there will almost certainly be a choice on whether to keep it or take it off.

That and her rock hard nipples. Since he is so addicted to realism, I wonder if he ever saw a nipple being noticeable under a coat + shirt + bra.

 

[Jozef Minge]

I want Sofia to wear shoes in the likeness of this:

Shoes are very important! I don't like L&P taste so far. Only in the dinner with Bennet I like Sophia's shoes!

 

[SubtleHustle]

It's visually boring, but essential to the story.
So you have to show the text.

Yeah, I know it's done to change the scenery while pages of text are to be read through. I might suggest, and this may seem more cookie cutter but less time required, stock facial expression renders for the character changing near their dialog box. I've noticed this in a few VN's. Your eyes will be down there anyway to read, no sense in rendering the whole 720/1080p scene again if there's only an insignificant facial expression change. Of course don't do away with pose changes that may be part of important body language and the like. But balance it out. Otherwise it feels like some extra renders just to pad the change log stats.

But what the fuck do I know, I'm just making suggestions here hoping I'm wrong on my assumption that A) tragedy befalls developer before project is finished B) I'm too old to give a fuck anymore or C) apocalypse.

 

[clowns234]

Yeah, I know it's done to change the scenery while pages of text are to be read through. I might suggest, and this may seem more cookie cutter but less time required, stock facial expression renders for the character changing near their dialog box. I've noticed this in a few VN's. Your eyes will be down there anyway to read, no sense in rendering the whole 720/1080p scene again if there's only an insignificant facial expression change. Of course don't do away with pose changes that may be part of important body language and the like. But balance it out. Otherwise it feels like some extra renders just to pad the change log stats.

But what the fuck do I know, I'm just making suggestions here hoping I'm wrong on my assumption that A) tragedy befalls developer before project is finished B) I'm too old to give a fuck anymore or C) apocalypse.

Daz Studio has 'spot rendering' which allows you to select only the facial expression (or hands or whatever) and everything else stays transparent. Then you can overlay the partial render onto the original using PS or Gimp. Saves a ton of rendering time.

 

[hzjujk]

Okay. Just want to let you know that in general I have no problems with the hot tub event or the developments that took place in it and I guess that was also the tone of your message.

I don't know if you meant this sarcastically but your English isn't bad. It is just that it was pretty out of context for me and unclear on what it was hinting at.

I have previously agreed with their opinion that Sam and Aiden are alike on one point. Both take what they can get that they think they deserve anyway if they think they can get away with it.
I don't see it that way with Sam anymore. It is only Sophia's behavior, if you have all Sam points that make Sam believe he has all the freedom.

 

[hzjujk]

Of course she's sad and worried. It's just before an Aiden task

Perhaps Sophia changes the contract with Aiden not to let the tasks take place in the school in the future. Aiden will agree to it and dictate a few conditions that bind the blackmail more to Sophia than to Dylan. This is speculation that is only based on the assumption that Dylan can no longer go to boarding school after his 4th task to end the blackmail.

 

[hzjujk]

Maybe there is no longer a Dylan Route unless Sophia turns to Morello to get rid of Aiden. I can't imagine a scenario in which Sophia forgives Dylan to be the cause of the blackmail. Not within the first 3 tasks and not at all after the 7th or 12th task. I know that L&P deleted Dylan as the culprit, but he won't have rewritten the whole story because of that. This speculation relies only on L & P's statement that it shouldn't matter later in the game that Dylan was the cause of the extortion.

 

[Sabertooth__]

I have previously agreed with their opinion that Sam and Aiden are alike on one point. Both take what they can get that they think they deserve anyway if they think they can get away with it.
I don't see it that way with Sam anymore. It is only Sophia's behavior, if you have all Sam points that make Sam believe he has all the freedom.

Okay. Just like for what Sam did to happen, you need every single point or corrupt choice for it to happen, you also need to make every single corrupt choice to make that happen on the Aiden route.
Both are teenage boys, both did something that was without consent.

Sam believes, but that belief should have halted when Sophia told him to stop. And no matter the situation ( and you can refer any book on laws relating to this ), whether the woman has lead you on, is in love with you or hated you, you cannot just keep on doing things to someone's body even when they are trying to stop you. If you do that is a criminal offence. Atleast with Aiden she can stop it immediately or she does not stop it at all. Here, she tries to stop but fails. This is the fact of the matter.

Again, Personally speaking I don't care for it. I didn't have an issue with what happened in the Aiden scene nor do I have an issue with what happened here. I know I am playing an erotic corruption game and dealing with a teenagers storyline, so such things are the bare minimum to expect in the story.

What I don't like is how the thread overreacts at everything. The smallest of things ( ofcourse you remember the bag too, and that is just one of the numerous examples ) are made into huge issues. At times it feels like unnecessarily picking on anything that one can. The thought process that just because something does not conform to a person's understanding of reality there is absolutely no way it is possible.

 

[Shuthell93]

Android version
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does this file has virus? Please anyone help

 

[DIRTY FILTHY Animal]

Okay. Just like for what Sam did to happen, you need every single point or corrupt choice for it to happen, you also need to make every single corrupt choice to make that happen on the Aiden route.
Both are teenage boys, both did something that was without consent.

Sam believes, but that belief should have halted when Sophia told him to stop. And no matter the situation ( and you can refer any book on laws relating to this ), whether the woman has lead you on, is in love with you or hated you, you cannot just keep on doing things to someone's body even when they are trying to stop you. If you do that is a criminal offence. Atleast with Aiden she can stop it immediately or she does not stop it at all. Here, she tries to stop but fails. This is the fact of the matter.

Again, Personally speaking I don't care for it. I didn't have an issue with what happened in the Aiden scene nor do I have an issue with what happened here. I know I am playing an erotic corruption game and dealing with a teenagers storyline, so such things are the bare minimum to expect in the story.

What I don't like is how the thread overreacts at everything. The smallest of things ( ofcourse you remember the bag too, and that is just one of the numerous examples ) are made into huge issues. At times it feels like unnecessarily picking on anything that one can. The thought process that just because something does not conform to a person's understanding of reality there is absolutely no way it is possible.

I think you mean to compare Aiden & Bennet & even Neal as doing stuff without consent, remember Sam is underwater holding his breath, I mean he’s probly just trying to remind her to get rid of Liam, so he can come up for air. I won’t deny Sams a pervert so is Dylan & so am I, join the club.

 

[bayrischman]

Without bra Please

with the second picture appearing in the scool she will be fired. no school can get away with that,