VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.220] [Lust & Passion]

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Alley_Cat

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Talcum Powder said:
I beg your pardon?!!!
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Well has L&P released any info on when he hopes updates will be released with the new update schedule? Monthly, bi-monthy, anything?

I'm not saying there aren't decent estimates, but since L&P hasn't to my knowledge released how big future events will be in terms of renders, really at this point we're just guessing.

And even then, L&P has shown events can blow out as much as double even what he quotes. So I don't believe even he can say for certain.
 
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sorry but that honor is for Alyssa.she realy starts the bicurios sophie.
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This is correct. Alyssa is probably hotter than Sophia. Dont forget me Antonio.
If this freaking dev would get help, I wouldnt mind seeing Alyssa branching her own story with some guest appearances in AWAM every now and again.
 
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derek1957 said:
Has P&L actually said that the game is going to go bad and families will split up? I’m getting WAY ahead here, but I’m reading all of these posts of the game getting “dark” and “bad” and families getting ruined and such, which would be a logical thing to happen IRL if all of this taboo sex went on. But how it ends is the way P&L writes the ending. I’m not predicting anything, I’m just suggesting that this being “erotic literature”, I don’t see where it HAS to end badly for everybody. Unless P&L wants to teach his audience the folly of taboo sex or something.

First off, there are numerous different Routes. If you compartmentalize one Route, it could get fairly crazy for a bit but it wouldn’t necessarily mean gobs and gobs of people having sex on one route. Whether there is one sexual liaison, or five or so, that, in the erotic literature world, is a manageable number, if much of it is kept secret and lies were told.

Take for example a Dylan/Sophia route. Dylan and Sophia go nuts and have sex. One alcohol-fueled time, or ten times. But they keep it secret from Ellie and Liam. Then maybe Sophia comes to her senses and stops the Dylan sex, and at the same time Dylan falls in love with one of the teen girls and gets into a relationship with her, and decides that he’s no longer obsessed with his mom. Liam is preoccupied with his job and his gambling and other projects and doesn’t catch the vibe, and that’s the end of it. Far-fetched? Perhaps, but it could happen in this type of literature. Or, if Sophia is caught by Liam having sex with the mailman or Morello or someone, while Liam is caught having an affair with Cathy or someone at the office, they slowly patch it up and move on. Some couples do that.

You can invent this sort of thing for most any other Route. Maybe Aiden gets sent to Juvenile Detention finally. Sam gets a hot groupie. Neil gets booted out of his house or they split up and have to move away. Morello takes out Bennett. Liam buys an Antonio for Sophia and likes watching her use it. And the rest live happily ever after, or at least move on.

Again I’m not predicting anything. It’s up to P&L what he wants to do. But I’m just saying it doesn’t HAVE to end real dark and messy. I like happy endings!:)
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Another Romantic! :)
 
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ancienregimele

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People are ignoring the part where she thought of having a baby. If that is the case, she's probably not taking birth control. The long drawing out set up introduced many potential partners and possible fathers. (Aiden, Andre, Bennett, Sam, Zac, Liam, Carl) It is doubtful that the peripheral dicks will get a chance with her, so they would be eliminated (Subway thugs, Park bums, Janitor, Principal, Deshawn, Neil, Soccer team).
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I don't think that Sophia & Liam have had the definitive discussion on this & definitely decided on trying for another baby. I seem to remember Liam was not wildly enthusiastic, (though it's a while back) but I'm hoping that because of this Sophia is currently on the pill.

This story needs the pregnancy fantasy like we need a 2-years for 1 playable day schedule. It's yet another meandering by-way to delay progress & IMO appeals mainly to young men who've never made a woman pregnant & have not the slightest concept of what this entails but see it as somehow displaying for all to see their 'conquest' of a desirable woman. What a shattering, grow-up overnight, experience they're in for, where that is the case. Responsibility is what happens & the end of the self-centred life. It is not the stuff of RL porn. It fulfils dreams alright, it's fantastic but it's about as sexy as a hot-water bottle....with a lot of new things to learn....worry....& hard work.

When I saw the topic appear in a playthrough I wondered how many more porn game themes L&P might consider necessary for a game already crammed full of them.

Your list of potential fathers didn't include Dylan & this, for me, is a positive. There's a few good reasons why mother/son incest is a societal taboo & what can happen with the sons/daughters of such a union is not the least of them.
 
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Alley_Cat said:
Well has L&P released any info on when he hopes updates will be released with the new update schedule? Monthly, bi-monthy, anything?

I'm not saying there aren't decent estimates, but since L&P hasn't to my knowledge released how big future events will be in terms of renders, really at this point we're just guessing.

And even then, L&P has shown events can blow out as much as double even what he quotes. So I don't believe even he can say for certain.
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What was the point then of dividing the day into events?
 
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Tell me, friend, which cryptocurrency is better to take, how will it rise in the future?
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People are using new currency called(XCi) its Chinese I guess. No more Dollars or Euros. cryptocurrency is bad so bad lol .
I forgot who won world cup 2050 .
Anyway, The game has great updates this is what I saw .
 
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ancienregimele said:
I don't think that Sophia & Liam have had the definitive discussion on this & definitely decided on trying for another baby. I seem to remember Liam was not wildly enthusiastic, (though it's a while back) but I'm hoping that because of this Sophia is currently on the pill.

This story needs the pregnancy fantasy like we need a 2-years for 1 playable day schedule. It's yet another meandering by-way to delay progress & IMO appeals mainly to young men who've never made a woman pregnant & have not the slightest concept of what this entails but see it as somehow displaying for all to see their 'conquest' of a desirable woman. What a shattering, grow-up overnight, experience they're in for, where that is the case. Responsibility is what happens & the end of the self-centred life. It is not the stuff of RL porn. It fulfils dreams alright, it's fantastic but it's about as sexy as a hot-water bottle....with a lot of new things to learn....worry....& hard work.

When I saw the topic appear in a playthrough I wondered how many more porn game themes L&P might consider necessary for a game already crammed full of them.

Your list of potential fathers didn't include Dylan & this, for me, is a positive. There's a few good reasons why mother/son incest is a societal taboo & what can happen with the sons/daughters of such a union is not the least of them.
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Then we wait for the pregnancy tag to suddenly appear like the shota tag did.
Liam was not wildly enthusiastic about more children and Sophia would love to have twins also Sophia is not on the pill.
Alcohol and Sophia is overcome with lust/passion and lets herself go in the moment and Sophia could get her wish.
It would be fun if it was Logan's or Carl's baby;)I can hear the screaming and smashing of crockery now:ROFLMAO:
 
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This is an interesting point, we have multiple examples now of a disconnect between how we see the importance of scenes and how L&P sees it. The Dylan Twist, Liam's gambling, the tutoring side job, these three events were all identified by players as really big deals, and L&P didn't seem to understand. In the case of The Dylan Twist, he removed it entirely after pushback but his attitude was (still is) a great big shrug of the shoulders and confusion about why anyone cares. The second side job he has lazily tried to recon with the disclaimer on the game's front page, but his statements are another shrug of the shoulder. Then with Liam's gambling debt, he's had very little to say and seems to see it as nothing more than a way to introduce Morello.

In three of the game's critical moments, the players and L&P seems to be on completely different pages. That isn't necessarily a big deal, a writer cannot always anticipate the audience's reaction. But in this case I think it's troubling. At minimum L&P was short sighted in his inability to anticipate player reaction, but then his responses also showed someone who didn't grasp the issue. I have no memory of him issuing a mea cupla and saying "Whoa, you guys have a great point about the Dylan Twist. I had envisioned it as a childish prank that could be brushed aside, but you're right that it's a much bigger deal than that. I'm going to tweak the game and remove it which will change the story slightly, but I think that's better than leaving it in." Instead we got a statement like "I removed it. I don't see why such a big deal was made out of an event that is short and unnecessary, but I removed it because people were unhappy ."

There are times when I really question the direction of the game's story, and these events feed into that. L&P simultaneously wants every choice to be slow and deliberate, but then doesn't give any thought to major story developments. He wants to make a realistic game, but then doesn't send inquisitive when players point out major inconsistencies in the plot. He's in a hurry to go nowhere. He has cultivated a following that is taking good story seriously, but then seems surprised when they question the logic of characters acting illogically. No matter what you think of Shota, the fact that L&P seems befuddled as to why the scene raises so many questions is an issue. He simply wanted a scene that he found hot and didn't seem to give any thought to how such a scene would work in the context of the game.

Writing is hard. L&P is in over his head. That's ok, but he should admit it and not continue to pretend there's no issue.
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Sorry but what's the "Dylan Twist"? It appears to me that L&P clearly favors Ellie over Dylan... the sheer amount of lesbian sexual content speaks for itself. What has Dylan got over each expansion? A back rub and a (gasp) peek at Sophie while she says:
"Oh Son! We shouldn't do that. I'm sorry I'm still your mother"

Meanwhile

"Ellie! Let's lock lips daughter!!!!" "Fucking touch my tits" "Bring our lesbian friend over!"
 
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Why Lp gotten slower?

This is 1 big event and 2 small ones versus 4 big events from last update ..yet he going same speed as previous update...
Shouldnt he be doing 10% a day now, as its less work?

...unless the aidan event is equal to 2 events ... hopefully thats the case ... plus holidays should boost the progress ...unless they dont celebrate Christmas in Germany lol

...sorry for being a crybaby haha
..but i really was hoping for 1 event update in Christmas...
 
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