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Again the play with her breasts at this point is because she is lost in the kiss. She is too lost to care. To suck her somewhere else would require breaking this pleasure and this gives her time to think.

We can truly never say what would have happened but things are as they stand and Sophia was not happy about what he did to the point where she regrets even allowing anything.
Once she let him touch and play with her boobs it's "conquered land". Auf Wiedersehen, Adios, ByeBye :ROFLMAO:
A little movement and his lips would have plugged into her nipples. No time to say no :ROFLMAO:

PS. Baby, next time control yourself :ROFLMAO:

And another thing, L&P didn't give you the opportunity to remove Sam's hand.
 
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No, you are not mistaken, he said.
Moreover, I know that he has been making attempts to cooperate with different people for a long time.
But that doesn't change the fact that it's not easy, which is what I talk about all the time.
It is not impossible, but it is difficult, especially given the attitude of L&P towards their project. But I do not consider myself entitled to reproach him, since everyone is free to manage his project at his own discretion.
And that is a fine decision for you. What do you think of the car manufacturer who makes a bad product. You buy it, seems good, and then the vehicle is in the shop more than you in the vehicle. Do you think that gives you the entitlement to say the car manufacturer needs to fix something. Next you find out there are lots of people with the same issue. See the parallel. L&P makes a beautiful car. Then you drive it and it is in the shop more than you are driving it. If he were a car manufacturer he would be in deep doodoo.:cool:
 

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Once she let him touch and play with her boobs it's "conquered land". Auf Wiedersehen, Adios, ByeBye :ROFLMAO:
A little movement and his lips would have plugged into her nipples. No time to say no :ROFLMAO:

PS. Baby, next time control yourself :ROFLMAO:

And another thing, L&P didn't give you the opportunity to remove Sam's hand.
The barrier is broken, these guys are next, whether you want it or not :HideThePain:
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I have a question, and I could be completely wrong, so correct me if I am.

The purpose of switching from 1/3 day updates to per-event updates was to provide faster updates. But If I'm not wrong, the 1/3 day updates consisted of three events, and the updates took about 5 months. Considering that we'll now be getting an update not before 2 months, which makes 6+ months for 3 events, hasn't the development cycle slowed down instead of accelerating?
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The goal was to reduce the waiting time for updates.
Of course, this does not negate the aspirations to speed up development! But at the moment it is in complete collapse. This is not a catastrophe yet, but there is little good. The current pace cannot provide an acceptable timeline for the development of the entire game. Therefore, many, not without reason, fear that the game will not be completed, it will simply be abandoned.
True That!
 

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IMO, she didn't accept because of Liam's presence. Sam didn't do something extra, instead of his hand he put his lips. Let's point out the reason for Sophia's anger: Sam put her in danger, not because Sam touched/kissed her.


And here we come to the hot point, Sophia wants to stop because of the danger of being discovered and not because of her outright refusal to have a lover.
I think it was both. But I saw the weight of her anger more on the side because she was almost caught. The guilty conscience didn't seem real. Now L&P Sophia has not given a long inner monologue so that this impression can be wrong. Perhaps we will learn more about Sophia's sensitivities at the next Sam event.
 

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And I agree, to me it doesn't make much sense to wait out until next year to contact an artist, and the way this post on Patreon was written is just very vague in general. L&P will "try" to look for a skilled artist and "discuss" with them how to speed up the scene creation? Like..what? That sounds kinda weird to me, and the rest of this post makes it even harder for me to believe that he's actually gonna try to find anyone to help developing his game.

He said it a long time ago and nothing came out of it. Hell, he even mentioned it a couple months ago in this here thread, and if I remember correctly, he also said that there's apparently nobody up for the task. But now, all of a sudden, he's gonna "try" and look for a skilled artist? Bogus.

I personally won't believe it before I see it. But hey, I heard wonders do happen every ~2000 years or so.
I saw his comments on Pateron a little differently. The tone of his comments felt more desperate to me, and not the brushoff or lie that they have been before. I don't think the end result will be any different, I don't think anything will change and I don't think L&P is too serious, but I think L&P's motivation was different this time. He sounded like someone who, for the first time, was admitting that his development practices aren't sustainable. If he's being honest with himself, I think he knows that this game can't be completed at its current pace. Some of you are more jaded than I am because I really do think he wants to complete the game, but I think he's incapable of making the changes necessary so the game can be finished.

Without substantial changes, I have a really difficult time seeing this game making it to Playable Day 15. We'll get through PD 13, and I think we'll get into PD 14, but by then it will likely be late 2023/early 2024. But by then I don't think L&P will have the energy left to continue.

It's frustrating to see both AWAM and JOHN sputtering/collapsing at the same time.
 

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And I think the discussion between them, Sam and Sophia, will hit this sore point early on, Sophia will tell him that he needs to stop because someone might find out about them. And the way I see it, Sam will promise her that nothing will get out and that he will never put her in danger again, and their meetings will take place where they can't be found out.
Right, Sam is going to pick up Sophia at this point.
 

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You only picked one of the points I made regarding why Sam was able to do what he did. Alcohol. Ignoring factors like she has been on edge for so long, constantly been teased, her body must be longing for such pleasurable intimate touches. It is not a coincidence that she hardly is able to get any relief on any route. L&P is doing this intentionally so it plays a factor. Plus Sophia was able to stay to keep her control until she actually locked lips. A kiss is supposed to feel good, melt you down. And while in the moment she gave in. If you think that a kiss does not have any effect and one can easily just stop it then you have the choice of stopping it. Personally I believe it does have a strong effect.

You are using the same logic that I hate most. That one character did this much last time but was able to achieve this much the next time. The situation matters to me. There has been enough build-up on the Sam route and nothing short of a kiss was ever going to be accepted. The rest of the things that happen as I said weren't part of what Sophia wanted.

Alcohol was there in the Aiden event too. But there not a single dialogue emphasizes that what is happening is happening because of alcohol. In the Sam event there is clear Statement that Alcohol is playing a factor. They are two different things.

Liam or anyone couldn't just stand right infront of Sophia out of nowhere. No matter who enters the house. He or she will have to turn on the lights first, which is an immediate indicator which was also used. Neil and Amber weren't home either I believe. And even if they make an appearance how many parents to you know who peep of over high walls of their neighborhood to look for their son without even calling out his name first to check if he is nearby.

I too would wish alcohol is reduced as a factor and only comes into play for scenes where it actually makes sense. Not for plot convenience.
I agree that alcohol was a factor with Sam & Sophia in the hot tub, but the difference this time was that Sophia was already drinking champagne before Sam joined her
 

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I saw his comments on Pateron a little differently. The tone of his comments felt more desperate to me, and not the brushoff or lie that they have been before. I don't think the end result will be any different, I don't think anything will change and I don't think L&P is too serious, but I think L&P's motivation was different this time. He sounded like someone who, for the first time, was admitting that his development practices aren't sustainable. If he's being honest with himself, I think he knows that this game can't be completed at its current pace. Some of you are more jaded than I am because I really do think he wants to complete the game, but I think he's incapable of making the changes necessary so the game can be finished.

Without substantial changes, I have a really difficult time seeing this game making it to Playable Day 15. We'll get through PD 13, and I think we'll get into PD 14, but by then it will likely be late 2023/early 2024. But by then I don't think L&P will have the energy left to continue.

It's frustrating to see both AWAM and JOHN sputtering/collapsing at the same time.
I hope also that he really does want to complete AwAm as a lot of us here have invested alot of time in the game and it would be a shame to see it abandoned as there are a lot of talented artist/scripts writers/PS people on here.
Maybe now he will slim down the characetrs or at least shorten their story like he has done with Bennett/Neil.
 

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I saw his comments on Pateron a little differently. The tone of his comments felt more desperate to me, and not the brushoff or lie that they have been before. I don't think the end result will be any different, I don't think anything will change and I don't think L&P is too serious, but I think L&P's motivation was different this time. He sounded like someone who, for the first time, was admitting that his development practices aren't sustainable. If he's being honest with himself, I think he knows that this game can't be completed at its current pace. Some of you are more jaded than I am because I really do think he wants to complete the game, but I think he's incapable of making the changes necessary so the game can be finished.

Without substantial changes, I have a really difficult time seeing this game making it to Playable Day 15. We'll get through PD 13, and I think we'll get into PD 14, but by then it will likely be late 2023/early 2024. But by then I don't think L&P will have the energy left to continue.

It's frustrating to see both AWAM and JOHN sputtering/collapsing at the same time.
The cadence with which NLT-media does it is impressive, and the last game is very good, artistically speaking.
https://f95zone.to/threads/the-genesis-order-v-04122-nlt-media.101325/

I don't know how many work on each game but it's the way to go.
 
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Sooner or later we will get something like this.Maybe in 7 years.Probably too late for most people.
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