Wait a minute. I choose to pay from my wallet to the Patreon wallet an amount in crypto. I use a payment processor. How does this Crypto payment processors know that the destination account is Patreon's?
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As a company/merchant you're obliged to KYC under AML. All your wallets are identified (and usually the wallet address is provided by the processor, not the merchant). Those companies then need to settle the crypto for fiat etc etc. All of that works like in regular finance. The money can't just come "out of nowhere".Wait a minute. I choose to pay from my wallet to the Patreon wallet an amount in crypto. I use a payment processor. How does this Crypto payment processors know that the destination account is Patreon's?
On the other hand, as a customer, you'll only need to KYC on certain merchants if you pass a certain $fiat threshold so that wouldnt be an issue for you specificaly but Patreon would still have the same issues.
I didn't know about the company/merchant. In this case, can I ask why crypto?
The money you have in the bank is "yours". You can get your account closed, seized etc.I didn't know about the company/merchant. In this case, can I ask why crypto?
With crypto, if you're the only one with the seed, that can't happen. (Which isn't the case of these merchants, unless they withdraw the crypto to one of their wallets)
Regarding Patreon, the only way it would work was if they never intended to sell that crypto for fiat. That way they could do whatever they want and they could just make their payment processor that abides by 0 rules.
On a side note, regarding AML, anyone using crypto for ilicit stuff is an idiot, its as easy to track as in trad finance. Cash is still king for shitty practices, which just makes it hilarious when sub 80 iq politicians talk about crypto and money laundering.
Bane71
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If a game developer uses his personal bitcoin wallet to receive support from patrons in cryptocurrency, while not using any third-party platforms, then I do not see any difficulties and problems for this.Wait a minute. I choose to pay from my wallet to the Patreon wallet an amount in crypto. I use a payment processor. How does this Crypto payment processors know that the destination account is Patreon's?
Patrons who are holders of cryptocurrencies can transfer funds to the developer's personal wallet. This operation is similar to how you give someone cash from hand to hand, bypassing the bank.
Those who do not have cryptocurrencies can support the developer without any problems, for this you just need to make a purchase of cryptocurrencies in an online exchanger and specify the developer's wallet to receive cryptocurrencies when buying.
That is, the use of cryptocurrency allows you to remove the intermediary between the developer and the patrons. To do this, the developer only needs to create his wallet and specify it somewhere publicly.
Tell me you don't understand currency without telling me you don't understand currency,but money can be created out of nothing ... every bank does it with a small house loan, the financial crisis 2008, for example, would have been easy to solve, at least in theory,,, and in Europe or Speziel Germany is money on your account is no longer your money but the bank, (there is a law, the name or the pharagraph I would have to search first) ,,,,, (amateurs rob a bank, the real criminals found a bank
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The difficulty is the loss of the perks that patron provides.
The second difficulty is having to prove source of funds to get that money in the bank (although he can just say he does graphic design but most exchanges are now asking for proof, website etc). It's not an easy situation to implement and get the same revenue because most people that use patreon do it because of paypal.
Everyone knows that crypto eliminates the middle-men, but at what cost, in terms of functionality? Again L&P should start getting the most of his 1800 patrons to SubscribeStar, because if they got PS, it's only a matter of time until they get him too and better be safe than sorry.
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lockerxx
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is moving again!!! 50% 50% come on L&P you can do it!!!
Talcum Powder
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I've just remembered L&P wanting to look for help so I looked through the Recruitment & Services part of the forum and found these two guys Father Confessor and Bokosh.
One is a 3D Artist and looking at his sample renders he seems to be not bad at it.
The second one is a writer who also knows how to program in renpy which would be perfect.
He should easily be able to afford both of them but I'm a realist so I doubt he will actually ever get a team together to work with him.
One is a 3D Artist and looking at his sample renders he seems to be not bad at it.
The second one is a writer who also knows how to program in renpy which would be perfect.
He should easily be able to afford both of them but I'm a realist so I doubt he will actually ever get a team together to work with him.
Some folks work more productively in a team, others get further my working alone. Different folks, different strokes.
L&P gets nowhere by working alone.
The slow development speed has been the main issue for a long time and that won't improve without help.
These tasks only have an element of enjoyment & aren't something that she'd voluntarily undertake. People do all kinds of things they don't want to but most are just morale sapping day-to-day actions. [Having said that, even a trip to the Dentist's could contain a tiny element of pleasure in some of the old magazine articles in the waiting room, in the days when there used to be magazines but nobody went there to read old articles]. Breaking someone's will is not the same as making them do a range of tasks. First the person has to be broken, as in a brain-washing programme, then they are re-programmed with a different set of beliefs & values. Aiden's tasks may be undertaken involuntarily but IMO, it would take more than that to break someone's will, especially when Sophia can cling to the thought that it's all been done for her son & his friend. Aiden's tasks are about control. It would be of no advantage to have a mindless zombie, or a gibbering wreck. He needs a fully conscious, (as in fully conscious of what she's having to do), sentient being to get complete satisfaction.
Corruption is not an immature fantasy if you accept that Sophia always had a hidden reserve of sexuality, waiting to be released. I suggest that the story so far has shown this to be the case & that the question is not whether she'll be corrupted but as the subtitle of the game itself suggests, 'how far will she go?' Immature is only applicable to fantasies like time-stopping, mind control, super-hypnosis etc. These I don't ever play, because I'm so mature!
Sophia in a lap-dancing bar is a thought to conjure with but how would she know how to dance in that given way, without training? Given that something like this could occur, there are various potential scenarios arising from any attempt by Sophia to gain a measure of control. Aiden could see it as a challenge to which he could respond in the scene you describe by encouraging the random individual to go further &/or by seeking to involve other members of the audience. He might also react with resentment & produce a more difficult task next time, than what he'd originally planned, informing Sophia of this after she'd completed the onerous activity. He could take it as a positive sign, that Sophia was getting into the spirit of things, despite her refusal to let him touch her & act accordingly. There are more that I can think of but enough for now...
I'm certainly glad that you don't envisage Sophia wielding a whip. Again, the gaming world is chock-full of such characters & Sophia is much too nice.
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palmtrees89
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I totally agree that L&P needs a helping hand, but I doubt that these two guys would make the cut. Weird enough that the 3D artist's post in the Recruitment&Services section is much better written and structured in comparison to the guy who's supposed to be an actual writer. If you offer your services as a writer and start it off with a (no offense) weak post including syntax and grammatical errors, then that's certainly not a good start, lol.
The 3D artist's work does look good, but is it good enough for L&P's standards? I can't say.
hmc15
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Patreon getting cucked and the business altogether is about to collapse into nothingness. Few people use Patreon at all anymore. At one point it was a nice niche site for porn but OnlyFans and Fansly have taken over that platform. Patreon will be completely irrelevant in another 3 years