VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.215f] [Lust & Passion]

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Adolfo said:
I understand that LP does not want his artwork to be published, it is his and he decides.

I am not the one to criticize who and why decides to pay 38€ for something. If they want to pay it, that's fine.

LP is very free to cancel the subscription of whoever shares the pics without his permission.

But I find it absolutely intolerable, unfair and senseless to threaten customers/members, who are paying around 38 € per month, with no more pics; the pics what they are paying 38 € for. You can not threaten with a kind of collective punishment for what a person does. Basically, I think it is simply a bluff.
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It may be a bluff. But, what type of mind thinks saying this is a good idea? If he owned a bar and said this to someone who just paid for a drink then how soon before his bar is out of business. Let alone he better have paid bouncers because someone is gonna jack him up for stiffing them. Just sayin'!
 
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Turret said:
A quite nice compressed roundup of what is going on with the (non-)teasers. But I disagree a bit about his threats being a bluff. L&P has shown himself repeatedly to be as thinskinned, greedy and hypocrite as he comes across with his threats.
He hates F95 with a passion now, but without this website L&P would never have gotten as much exposure to potential patrons as he had.
I grew to have a very low opinion of L&P as a person over the years.
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It only took a few emails with him for me to get there. Unhinged was a thought that crossed my mind. He would not stop after I asked him to so I gave him an ultimatum. Amazing how he shut up then. Definitely locked in my thoughts on his self.
 
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While there are certain trolls here on site(like you find them on all forum sites in the world), which surely were not all innocent for the rising tension in the thread, it is a fact, that two errors by L&P brought about the final breakdown.

One is his extremly slow development speed and complete inability to stick to a schedule even halfway. Currently we are talking about an unsustainable space of 4 decades development time!
Two is how L&P behaved from the start once something did not happen like he wanted. Aggressive, accusing, open disdain and hate over trifles! You where not here, judging by your first post date, when L&P had several posts deleted because he totally lost it in frothing rage over peanut events. It made more than one supporter and patron(!) of his go "seriously Dude? What are you on?", because his reaction was over the top from early on!
The final nail was L&P showing open disdain to even close supporters and it is only a short time ago, when he stated that the patrons paying more were more loyal than the others! L&P was pissing on patrons with few money, but who supported him for over 4 years through unbelievable delays, glacial updates and rage hissy fits of his by showing them open disdain for their support and exhibited a really unflattering greed by calling those paying more, even if they supported him only for a short time more loyal than others!
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This is at least some context thank you. I have been here since a few months and this is really the one thread I often ignore from the games i am interested in ecause of the whole shitshow. I do not know how it was back then but so far I have not seen anthing negative he did here or on his patreon etc.

Of course there are always two sides to such a conflict. But I only see this side and not the side how it was before. I do not know how long the people complaining all the time have been here already but how is it still woorth to do it like that if you do not care? But enough of this since this is really tiresome. I rather want to talk about the game

@ AWAM
I think the new teaser look strange in style as well. The models look different in their style. For the scene I personally think Sophia will watch this event that would also explain her shaken look from the other teaser picture.
 
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Abhilash Samuel said:
Some people, such as Aiden, are more interested in watching others having sex front of him than he having sex with girls.

Such guys are in real life too. He is a person who enjoys seeing others perform sex in front of him rather than he is having sex. And they was so excited at the time, now we can see the same excitement in the teaser of Aiden's face.

Such people have different and strange characteristics and moods.It fits perfectly into Aiden's character in this story. Such a unique character should be in a fantastic and excellent game like AWAM.(y)
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Are you saying he ripped off the concept from Peter Sellers "Being There". He should be flogged within an inch of his life for touching the Great Inspector Clouseau in any fashion.:LOL:
 
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hzjujk said:
In principle, I agree with you, teasers are advertising. But what can the developer reward the higher supporters with if everything appears here on the page anyway? Just an honest question?
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Once he puts the product out he is dependent on any level supporter to hold on to that product for x period of time. There are no guarantees except death and taxes. Expecting there to be some limited accessibility is not reasonable in the current format to supply the audience. It is just an unreasonable thought.
 
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I think it's fundamentally counter productive to hide promotional teaser images behind exclusive tiers. It's another flaw in the Patreon economy, higher tiers need more rewards, and that can create weird situations. Promotional items should be shared by the dev everywhere. But what do you give patrons that give $40/month? Polls? Do you let them request bonus scenes?

When I ponder the idea of my own game, and I think about tiers, I wonder if it wouldn't be better to have just a single tier. Something like $15 gets you everything. If you want to donate more because you love the game, awesome, but you don't get additional benefits. I don't know if there's a good answer, but L&P's approach seems counter productive.
 
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Couldn't help but laugh at this one. Ferdixxy really got us here. I won't be able to sleep if you throw more of your own money into this bottomless pit. I'm shocked! Good to know that Bane71 apparently supports direct insults with a like. There's always 2 sides to every coin I guess. :p

Anyway, now we have an idea what the bonus event is about. Can't say the teasers are worth paying $38 for, though. Not that I'm a big fan of teasers to begin with, but oh well.. I wonder if L&P will actually stop posting teasers now, lol. Pretty sure it would hurt his income more than anything else.
 
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GingerSweetGirl said:
I think it's fundamentally counter productive to hide promotional teaser images behind exclusive tiers. It's another flaw in the Patreon economy, higher tiers need more rewards, and that can create weird situations. Promotional items should be shared by the dev everywhere. But what do you give patrons that give $40/month? Polls? Do you let them request bonus scenes?

When I ponder the idea of my own game, and I think about tiers, I wonder if it wouldn't be better to have just a single tier. Something like $15 gets you everything. If you want to donate more because you love the game, awesome, but you don't get additional benefits. I don't know if there's a good answer, but L&P's approach seems counter productive.
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I have sworn off the patreon system and now only give money to updates I really had fun playing. In practice, this means that immediately after playing an update, I decide whether to give money or not. Then, I cancel after one month at the latest, so that I pay for a maximum of two months.

There are simply too many developers, L&P clearly included, who have decided to milk the system. I'm just tired of reading all the excuses and to sometimes wait more than 4 month for an update.

The extras, no matter what kind, do not interest me. In particular, the preview images ultimately only ruin the fun. If you would ask me, the best thing is to provide fair and regular updates. It should be the good work you pay for, not extras or silly excuses.
 
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wait so Aiden has a gf? :unsure: did we get to see her face before, i can't remember her at all...
and she is taking off her clothes in front of her bf and his friend? but why?
and also why does he looks at her like he never saw her before?? :oops::unsure:
 
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GingerSweetGirl said:
I think it's fundamentally counter productive to hide promotional teaser images behind exclusive tiers. It's another flaw in the Patreon economy, higher tiers need more rewards, and that can create weird situations. Promotional items should be shared by the dev everywhere. But what do you give patrons that give $40/month? Polls? Do you let them request bonus scenes?

When I ponder the idea of my own game, and I think about tiers, I wonder if it wouldn't be better to have just a single tier. Something like $15 gets you everything. If you want to donate more because you love the game, awesome, but you don't get additional benefits. I don't know if there's a good answer, but L&P's approach seems counter productive.
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I agree. High-tier patrons don't really have any benefits with pirate sites existing anyway. I think L&P really needs to overhaul his tier list, as most of it is outdated.
  • All previous rewards
  • Get access to the latest version on the release day
  • Access to some hot scenes of future releases
  • 1080p versions of some of the best scenes and animations
  • Your name mention in the credits
  • You get to vote for future game topics
  • And… YOU’RE JUST AWESOME!!!
- Pirates get the game on release day.
- Access to hot scenes I guess means teasers? Yeah, well, we all know how that one goes, lol.
- Pretty sure 1080p is standard for every render, no? Rendering in 720p while using 2x 3090ti's? Right...
- I've never checked, but are there credits anywhere?
- Voting on game topics, huh? Was that ever a thing? Can't recall patrons having a say in produced content.
- Yay, you're awesome! The more money you throw at him, the more "loyal" you are in his eyes. Yay!
 
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