Bane71

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Milking is when a 3-month job is done in 6 months. It would be an example of milking.
But L&P has a stable of 1400-2000 patrons, and a projected completion time of a decade.
Where do you get the milking from? That's the most L&P can give now :confused:
It is so strange to me that many people do not understand this and talk about milking and deliberate delaying!
He has created so many storylines and side stories that there is absolutely no point in deliberately delaying the development process!
How someone adult can not understand this, I can not realize! :rolleyes:
 

Bane71

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Of the men who do you think will see it first? That will surely be the first thing to happen. Be it accidentally or on purpose. I suspect maybe Sam since Sophia knows he peeps in her window. Maybe she'll arrange s subtle clothes drop in view of his window before walking into the bathroom.
In order to watch, Sam has the most convenient observation position and we can be 100% sure that one day Sophia will give Sam a hot show!
This is an indisputable fact!
But surely there will be other locations to demonstrate the charms of Sophia and something very hot! There are already more questions than answers.
Maybe something at school! Maybe something in a public place like a Rock Bar! And perhaps somewhere else and privately, for a narrow number of the public.
But I'm sure it will definitely be!
 

xxxorro

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Of the males, Dylan already has during the Yoga event. I believe if you play Dylan's POV it's even mentioned.
From Dylan's POV, everyone was shown except Sofia
As Kirill86 said, he saw only the others, he was always seeing Sophia from behind.
I think so far no male character had that privilege, the closest is maybe Caden during the art class.
I mean no **human** male character, before someone makes the joke that triggers GingerSweetGirl ;) :D

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nexer

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At this level, teasing Sam means Sophia is showing herself willing for sex.
There is no longer any doubt about Sam's intentions, and Sophia already knows that Sam will seize any opportunity. A half-hearted NO won't be enough :ROFLMAO:
We're already talking sex, not just touching or kissing.
 

uniformless

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It is so strange to me that many people do not understand this and talk about milking and deliberate delaying!
He has created so many storylines and side stories that there is absolutely no point in deliberately delaying the development process!
How someone adult can not understand this, I can not realize! :rolleyes:
He said 0.155 will not be released, even if ready, without the addon (the thing we doesn't know anything and didn't ask). But patreon billing continue and isn't put on hold even if the release is on hold. How this is not deliberate delaying the release?
 

Kakato

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He said 0.155 will not be released, even if ready, without the addon (the thing we doesn't know anything and didn't ask). But patreon billing continue and isn't put on hold even if the release is on hold. How this is not delaying the release?
True. Even if the progress hits 100%, there's no reason to be hyped or bumping the thread with " is moving " post like some pplz here usually do - don't wanna troll or anything, but sometimes, it's annoying -.-" . Anyway, nothing will come out until that addon thingy is ready and no one knows if it will take 2 days, one week or 15 days. So, there's absolutely no reason to be thrilled atm.
 

Pigeon lust

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At this level, teasing Sam means Sophia is showing herself willing for sex.
There is no longer any doubt about Sam's intentions, and Sophia already knows that Sam will seize any opportunity. A half-hearted NO won't be enough :ROFLMAO:
We're already talking sex, not just touching or kissing.
Judging by the events, not yet, there may be repeated scenes, but more explicit, since he himself said how long the first sex (Lust and passion) will be, and the first sex will be with a girl.
Plus events with Sam and Dylan, joint events, it's also important what will happen at them.
in the end, Dylan cuckold has to open up somehow, maybe there will be a way to exchange moms as an option.
 

Sabertooth__

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He said 0.155 will not be released, even if ready, without the addon (the thing we doesn't know anything and didn't ask). But patreon billing continue and isn't put on hold even if the release is on hold. How this is not deliberate delaying the release?
Oh how you love to ignore important points of his side.

He also said he will start the work on the next update till the add on is ready. So if he is working on the game why should he pause the payments. Think again.
 

Bane71

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He said 0.155 will not be released, even if ready, without the addon (the thing we doesn't know anything and didn't ask). But patreon billing continue and isn't put on hold even if the release is on hold. How this is not deliberate delaying the release?
I have repeatedly read claims about billing on Patreon.
Listen, the payments are completely, 100 percent voluntary! Anyone can suspend their subscription and payments within half a minute of time! Therefore, I personally consider these claims to be empty and unfounded.
 

nexer

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Judging by the events, not yet, there may be repeated scenes, but more explicit, since he himself said how long the first sex (Lust and passion) will be, and the first sex will be with a girl.
Plus events with Sam and Dylan, joint events, it's also important what will happen at them.
in the end, Dylan cuckold has to open up somehow, maybe there will be a way to exchange moms as an option.
Agree. But I was referring to Sophia's attitude from now on.
Any encouragement is an invitation, even a "begging" :ROFLMAO:
 
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uniformless

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Oh how you love to ignore important points of his side.

He also said he will start the work on the next update till the add on is ready. So if he is working on the game why should he pause the payments. Think again.
And how releasing the 0.155 even without the addon should stop him to work on the next update if he doesn't stop the payment?
As you said, if is working on the game why should he pause the payment. So, we can also say, if he don't pause the payment, we should assume he is working on the game.

Actually, while delaying the release, patrons just need to keep paying and get... nothing for another month. My bad, they will get a word saying if he's not releasing the update then it will start working on the next one...which should already be the case anyway (because no pause in the payment).
 

uniformless

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I have repeatedly read claims about billing on Patreon.
Listen, the payments are completely, 100 percent voluntary! Anyone can suspend their subscription and payments within half a minute of time! Therefore, I personally consider these claims to be empty and unfounded.
Because a release take months, we can guess some people (not every patrons) would stop their billing for a while just after a release.
Delaying (cause there is no other word : "I could release the update but I will not" is called delaying) to go right after another billing month give a really bad taste of milking.
 

Pigeon lust

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Agree. But I was referring to Sophia's attitude from now on.
Any encouragement is an invitation, even a "begging" :ROFLMAO:
I understand what you're talking about, it just seems to me that there will be either the same scenes or a little more explicit.
Just as an example of how many scenes of similar content there were, here's where Sam was behind Sofia's buttocks, which, in principle, became more and more explicit every time. And now about how the line was built as a whole specifically for Sam, at first just random touches, massage, groping clothes (an example of an event shared by Dylan), and only after all this, a huge amount of time, he moved on to a kiss, a very short scene of breast fondling
It's just that now there may simply be more such scenes.
I briefly described, of course, there were still all sorts of moments :D
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globsis

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Because a release take months, we can guess some people (not every patrons) would stop their billing for a while just after a release.
Delaying (cause there is no other word : "I could release the update but I will not" is called delaying) to go right after another billing month give a really bad taste of milking.
Than to swear and be offended that someone is milking someone - organize a "club for suspending payments". Don't talk. Do the job. Maybe they'll thank you for that. Right now you're only making people angry. Do a good deed.
 

uniformless

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Quote the bad words if you say I'm swearing please, I'm curious about it.
I'm just answering to Bane who said there is no deliberate delaying or milking. I quite disagree for the reason I said. The L&P method give me a bad taste of it. Which is even worse if it's not deliberate!
Now, everyone is free to keep their billing or not, it's a personal choice. I'm not encouraging anyone to stop or continue their support. To each their own choice.
 
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