Sadowdark

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Probably but I think we could have been told more. As there was nothing specific about it this could lead to a plethora of useless speculation. That is something I used to indulge in with the best of them but after all this time, I'm just sick of.

Only people write that this is another assignment and they have not heard of dressing Sophia in sexy clothes for Aiden's meeting.
,,Aiden must be alone without his buddies, but I don't remember a dressing condition... ,,
 
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xxxorro

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Ok, finished my playthrough and here are my thoughts.

  • As expected, nothing could make the five month development worth it.
  • Putting aside the long development cycle, this update is still very uneven.
  • The update starts off strong, but it quickly feels sloppy and rushed
  • Task 4- I mostly liked this, but it wasn't smooth. I liked that L&P has firmly established that this is blackmail, that Sophia can't stand Aiden, and that she isn't excited (yet) for the tasks.
    • While I enjoyed the visual pleasure of task 4, the moment that Sophia exposed her underwear to the class felt very sophomoric by the standards of the game. Look, a skirt that tight doesn't easily ride up that high. It wouldn't be possible to play that off as an accident. I know Daz and skirt assets are a limiting factor here, but I would have structured the scene differently. As it stands, I felt like the image of Sophia standing before the class with her skirt up was a jumping the shark moment.
    • I really liked the interaction with Zach.
    • I really liked that Sophia slapped the shit out of Andre.
  • Bonus Event Threesome- This really left a bad taste in my mouth
    • I really don't like that the entire structure. It felt like L&P wanted a sex scene, and this was the best he could do.
    • It's a shame that he couldn't even make it 100% consensual, and instead leaned into another coercion/blackmail story.
    • He does do a good job of really hammering home that Aiden and Andre are terrible people.
    • Some of the animations are really nice! Most are simply "fine". None of them were worth the wait.
    • Hopefully the choice to intervene does something in the future.
  • Ellie and Dylan scenes
    • These were actually pretty nice, but it all felt very linear. I'm sure that will be fleshed out in the future, but there were too many "game over" options for my liking.
    • The drift towards multiple MCs continues. Now you even get the option to make choices for Ellie.
    • I like the Dylan/Christina dynamic.
    • The Forgive/Don't Forgive option looms large. It's going to further complicate this story and development.
  • Miscellaneous thoughts
    • I felt like the connective tissue within scenes was weaker than normal. I suspect that the attention paid to the animations left little time for fleshing out some of the scenes with extra renders. IMO this is a net negative for the whole game.
    • Don't get me wrong, L&P has historically gone TOO FAR in the other direction with too many superfluous renders. I don't mind him cutting the superfluous renders, but I do mind him cutting them and replacing them with superfluous animations.
    • And speaking of superfluous animations, did we really need like 20 different camera angles?
    • Instead, I would have spent more time and renders for the options that otherwise lead directly to game over.
    • Lastly, why on Earth would Sophia go home and change into something so cute/flirtatious when she's going to meet Aiden. Look, I like eye candy too, but if I'm meeting a guy I hate you can bet I'm wearing some ratty hoodie.
That I agree with all your points is an understatement. Thanks for giving order to my thoughts too! ;)

  • Concerning Aiden we were wondering if this update could bring a better insight on his backstory and his angle wrt the tasks.
    Well, it has taken a dark turn IMO. In the bonus scene it was expected that something nasty was going on between them. Now it is clear that Jennifer his not his *girlfriend* and there is again extortion behind that relationship as well. And Aiden and André are given even more the "little gangster" type with the extortion, poker, the betting and so on. Not the common teenagers to say the least.

    But I'm more surprised by the dialogue between Aiden and Sophia in the corridor when he explains the task
    Python:
    ai "This should also be concurring for you from now on! Any student gets to see your tits whenever he wants!"
    
    ...
    
    ai "From now on, your students have the right to admire their teacher's outfit in all its glory."
    ai "This also applies to what she wears underneath!"
    If taken literally that is a huge turn IMO, it's not anymore just embarrassing and humiliating Sophia but it seems to imply that along the road of the school task things could escalate in a way that immediately reminds me of that infamous sentence in the description of the game on F95 but not on patreon (whose origins are still unclear) "...or will she fall into all the temptations and become a filthy wh**e soon?". I mean, *if taken literally* that exchange could really lead to the classic porn movie scenarios of the teacher genre (i.e. gangbang and such). Which, personally, I wouldn't have expected given the story so far. (i.e. I hope it does not turn in the usual fuckfest)

    I don't know if anybody else got the same vibe.

  • Contrary to the previous update, the writing was much more "consistent" with where we left the characters. The other time I felt like a "sudden step" in the interaction with Aiden (3rd task), Nathalie and Sam. Here it was much smoother.
    I too noted the questions on the blackboard and I even took a pause to google them (yeah, I know, I'm that kind of guy...). That is the kind of details that he is very good at enriching the narrative with and make it more "believable".
    Just a silly note, "(in)conspicuous"seem to keep popping up in the dialogues, he must really like the word :)

  • This task went farther than expected (at least for me), especially for the flashing (panties, breasts) and how it played out (I agree with you again, sexy but silly). We predicted some "involuntary" touch, like a brush but certainly not what happened to Zach, which was quite hot IMO. In my first play through I missed the discussion with him at the end (I was on the yoga path), but it certainly introduces interesting developments with Zach in the future.
    And I'm wondering if this is somehow the limit of the tasks in the classroom, because more explicit than that it becomes less and less realistic. Probably the 5th task that will be revealed in the meeting the next update (?) will be again out-of-school? On the next PD? Or just in the next class? it's hard now to think something more risqué than this happening in the classroom. Maybe the gym class (same day) will offer more alternatives.

  • I'm worried about the increasing complexity of the game. Beside the Morello option, this update again introduce Jennifer and her extortion story which for sure will come back (e.g. if Sophia intervene she will ask protection for her too), an option to forgive Logan which we will discover, I guess, on Monday PD 16, Emma's studying option for the evening (alternative to the sleepover with Ellie and Christine), a meeting with Aiden that could be different whether she asked Morello for help or not (she might be there while his men pay Aiden the visit)...
    Even looking at the code there so many nested conditions that will require a lot of effort to maintain. I know this is also a matter of personal taste, I'm more for linear (kinetic-like) and simpler stories, but at some point there should be some limit to the exponential branching. And in that regard the new way of delivering by event is probably backfiring as there are many people left without content even with 2 updates.

Finally, kudos to Bibifoc for developing the savegame export (and other "stuff" I guess) and thanks for patiently dealing with all the issues in the forum. For me it was flawless! (y)
 
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AbdelAdrian

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There are many stupid events in this game but one bother me more and more.
Not only me, a few people wrote about it before.
Aiden thread is more and more stupid and unbelievable, unlikely.
Besides ... we all know that Aiden has the smallest dick in the world :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:
I love a guy who made these pictures (y)(y)(y) I forgot your nickname buddy. SORRY (pictures i have saved on a disk)

1.jpg 2.jpg 3.jpg
 

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A Wife and Mother [Part 1 / v0.150] [Compressed]

Original Size Win/Linux: 6.05 GB

Compressed Size Win/Linux: 1.43 GB: - MEGA
Compressed Size Mac: 1.40 GB: - MEGA

Patch for Part 1 to Load Final Save Files for Part 2:

A Wife and Mother [Part 2 / v0.160] [Compressed]

Original Size Win/Linux: 860 MB

Compressed Size Win/Linux: 174 MB:
Compressed Size Mac: 140 MB:

Compressing process reduces image/audio/video quality and can break the game, be aware of that.

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Part1 compressed works fine on Joiplay, but when applying the patch, it crashes on start...‍♂

Can someone share saves for part 2 on the different routes?
 

sophpa

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So after i played i want to say that animations not the best but not bad. Aiden`s task sucks like as usual but this update are more interesting then the last one
 

DIRTY FILTHY Animal

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There are many stupid events in this game but one bother me more and more.
Not only me, a few people wrote about it before.
Aiden thread is more and more stupid and unbelievable, unlikely.
Besides ... we all know that Aiden has the smallest dick in the world :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:
I love a guy who made these pictures (y)(y)(y) I forgot your nickname buddy. SORRY (pictures i have saved on a disk)

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It is funny in fan art, but unfortunately that’s not true, we’ve seen Aidens dick at the art class when he was dressed up and rubbed it on Sophia’s back
 

Old Dog

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That I agree with all your points is an understatement. Thanks for giving order to my thoughts too! ;)

  • Concerning Aiden we were wondering if with this update we could bring a better insight on his backstory and his angle wrt the tasks.
    Well, it has taken a dark turn IMO. In the bonus scene it was expected that something nasty was going on between them. Now it is clear that Jennifer his not his *girlfriend* and there is again extortion behind that relationship as well. And Aiden and André are given even more the "little gangster" type with the extortion, poker, the betting and so on. Not the common teenagers to say the least.

    But I'm more surprised by the dialogue between Aiden and Sophia in the corridor when he explains the task
    Python:
    ai "This should also be concurring for you from now on! Any student gets to see your tits whenever he wants!"
    
    ...
    
    ai "From now on, your students have the right to admire their teacher's outfit in all its glory."
    ai "This also applies to what she wears underneath!"
    If taken literally that is a huge turn IMO, it's not anymore just embarrassing and humiliating Sophia but it seems to imply that along the road of the school task things could escalate in a way that immediately reminds me of that infamous sentence in the description of the game on F95 but not on patreon (whose origins are still unclear) "...or will she fall into all the temptations and become a filthy wh**e soon?". I mean, *if taken literally* that exchange could really lead to the classic porn movie scenarios of the teacher genre (i.e. gangbang and such). Which, personally, I wouldn't have expected given the story so far.

    I don't know if anybody else got the same vibe.

  • This task went farther than expected (at least for me), especially for the flashing (panties, breasts) and how it played out (I agree with you again, sexy but silly). We predicted some "involuntary" touch, like a brush but certainly not what happened to Zach, which was quite hot IMO. In my first play through I missed the discussion with him at the end (I was on the yoga path), but it certainly introduces interesting developments with Zach in the future.
    And I'm wondering if this is somehow the limit of the tasks in the classroom, because more explicit than that it becomes less and less realistic. Probably the 5th task that will be revealed in the meeting the next update (?) will be again out-of-school? On the next PD? Or just in the next class? it's hard now to think something more risqué than this happening in the classroom. Maybe the gym class (same day) will offer more alternatives.

  • I'm worried about the increasing complexity of the game. Beside the Morello, option this update again introduce Jennifer and her extortion story which for sure will come back (e.g. if Sophia intervene she will ask protection for her too), an option to forgive Logan which we will discover, I guess, on Monday PD 16, Emma's studying option for the evening (alternative to the sleepover with Ellie and Christine)...
    Even looking at the code there so many nested conditions that will require a lot of effort to maintain. I know this is also a matter of personal taste, I'm more for linear (kinetic-like) and simpler stories, but at some point there should be some limit to the exponential branching. And in that regard the new way of delivering by event is probably backfiring as there are many people left without content even with 2 updates.

Finally, kudos to Bibifoc for developing the savegame export (and other "stuff" I guess) and thanks for patiently dealing with all the issues in the forum. For me it was flawless! (y)
I started getting a dark vibe about this game when Sophia visited Larry in jail and I think that the game has changed direction from what it was in the early episodes.
What was once a unique stand out game is starting to look like another fuckfest run of the mill vn game
 

Kakato

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I started getting a dark vibe about this game when Sophia visited Larry in jail and I think that the game has changed direction from what it was in the early episodes.
What was once a unique stand out game is starting to look like another fuckfest run of the mill vn game
100% agree. You're not alone. I got the same feeling around the same time too. Some kind of palpable dark S**t started floating around at that time and It's getting darker and darker in a way I dislike. I got a feeling that if this game isn't abandoned in the next years, it's going to lose all originality that made it unique in the first PD and we're going to watch helplessly a common Fuck Fest like the other games here. And that's precisely the danger of long-time build-ups = stay rational and relevant without falling in the stereotypes/cliché we've seen in almost every other games here.
 

DIRTY FILTHY Animal

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I know it’s a porn vn, but These classroom scenes are getting more and more unrealistic.
I mean these students would have to be a bunch of (Stevie Wonders & Helen Kellers) to not know what’s going on around them.
You got a hot milf looking pornstar teacher dressing sexier each class and these clowns are staring at their papers like their reading inheritance will .
How the hell does nobody see Sophia bending over with her blouse unbuttoned no bra and friggin tittys bouncing on display!
Then she rests them on Zacs hand and he even gets away with squeezing a handful (which made her horny again)
until Dr Dre had to ruin it by grabbing handful of her ass (which again, no one saw) & then she Will Smith’ed him (smack) and his hat stayed on) then right back to teaching the lesson like it never happened :ROFLMAO:
 

Anna2021

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There are many stupid events in this game but one bother me more and more.
Not only me, a few people wrote about it before.
Aiden thread is more and more stupid and unbelievable, unlikely.
Besides ... we all know that Aiden has the smallest dick in the world :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:
I love a guy who made these pictures (y)(y)(y) I forgot your nickname buddy. SORRY (pictures i have saved on a disk)

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these pictures are from "The Last Assignment – The Next Day" by Leonox! :)
 
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100% agree. You're not alone. I got the same feeling around the same time too. Some kind of palpable dark S**t started floating around at that time and It's getting darker and darker in a way I dislike. I got a feeling that if this game isn't abandoned in the next years, it's going to lose all originality that made it unique in the first PD and we're going to watch helplessly a common Fuck Fest like the other games here. And that's precisely the danger of long-time build-ups = stay rational and relevant without falling in the stereotypes/cliché we've seen in almost every other games here.
So want you want that Sophia should never get fucked by anyone insted of her husband
 
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mentosa

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100% agree. You're not alone. I got the same feeling around the same time too. Some kind of palpable dark S**t started floating around at that time and It's getting darker and darker in a way I dislike. I got a feeling that if this game isn't abandoned in the next years, it's going to lose all originality that made it unique in the first PD and we're going to watch helplessly a common Fuck Fest like the other games here. And that's precisely the danger of long-time build-ups = stay rational and relevant without falling in the stereotypes/cliché we've seen in almost every other games here.
I don't understand this at all. What was unique about this game before? Some kind of vibe? You guys are not providing a clear possition of what do you want to see happening. I fucking hope there will be sex in it, finally, cheating, NTR, gangbangs. I would love to see the old geezers getting some good action. Why is that dark? Is it because you empathize with the husband? I'm not getting it.
 

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So want you want that Sophia should never get fucked by anyone insted of her husband
It's only the Dylan route that requires these darker paths. Sophia could get fucked by say Sam, without these darker elements at all. Or Ellie, or Patricia.
 

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It just reminded me of these: that Sophia needs to dress sexy to meet Aiden. To find out about the next assignment. As you can see, I thought wrongly.
It could be, pure speculation now, that when Sophia meets Aiden she really only gets information about the fifth task. Maybe Aiden also wants to get into Sophia's pants and the player has a choice.
However, maybe Sophia will witness the appearance of Morello's people there. And if Jennifer is there and Sophia has asked Morello to do something for Jennifer, Jennifer would then also learn who she has to thank for her help. Because there's no way Aiden would tell her.
 
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