armion82

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I could agree that AWAM progress is very slow, but NLT has at least 10x more money from supporters, 10x worst story (this is my opinion), animation without hair movement and models with awful plastic skin.
The amount of money can't make up for the time it took to finish a total of less than 30 seconds unique animations.
Or you seriously think that because he is making 10 times less money,he can work 10 times slower?
It's the other way around.The more money L&P is making the slower he is working.
Not to mention we don't need next gen animations to make the game better.
Watching tertiary characters having sex(or rape)it's not really what I call a progress.
 

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Renpy and RPGM are game engines, not render/animation creators. You make them with DAZ or Blender or whatever and then you implement them in Renpy or RPGM. So we can in fact compare them.

About the animations in this game, they're better than most of other similar games yes, but the characters still seem stiff and fake. For me it wasn't worth it, because 1) I didn't care about the characters involved, it didn't make me hard 2) it delayed the game too much for an already couple decades scheduled game, without animations
No you can't if its a visual novel like awam you have still renders and have 100's of renders for the dialogue. Then rpgm is just you running around a map with 1-2 renders for the dialogue [NTL] Cough Cough And has the same renders.
 
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Ruby Tuesday

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It's not really the attempt at greater than average realism that's the problem with AWAM. It's a big part of what attracted me to pursue it all those years ago. I couldn't properly appreciate all those games where relatively young men managed to assemble a harem, or the women with their stupid "ahegao" faces & air-bag breasts. There was much, much more I found not to like & then along came AWAM, which back then seemed as though it was going to be genuinely erotic, written & illustrated by an adult for adults. At the outset it promised a greater level of credibility & delivered on this IMO.

If the attempt at some form of realism, ( an 'ism' which has been declining IMHO), was abandoned completely, AWAM would still exist but many fans would decide to give it a miss, as yet another example of averagely concocted juvenile porn. There is every reason to stick with the notorious "slow burn" of AWAM & if anything I would say that the timetable of 30 playable days for Sophia to commit adultery, (probably with several people), is an absolute minimum of what's needed for disbelief to be suspended. It's because I value some 'realism' that I raised the issue of the odd choice of clothing.

This famous lack of extra-marital sex & the time that's being taken to remedy it stems solely from the Dev's observable commitment to slowing down the roll-out of the game/VN to the point where there can be few fans left who sincerely believe it will ever be finished, or if it is, may not be around to see it. Like you, I sometimes regret becoming addicted to this stuff & I definitely still wish it to succeed, (as a pirate, if only from enlightened self-interest) but for the last 2 years at least, all the indications have been "contra".
On the question of realism/authenticity (which I have already expressed an opinion) affecting a drop in fan numbers, you'll note patron numbers have currently reached an all time high. Surely you'll concede L&P must be getting something right, at least if you happen to be on the winning side?
 
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mattyboy05

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Two problems.
1.The animation is with characters no one cares about.If it was Sophia or at least Patricia or Ellie he can get a pass.
2.It took too much time for such a short animation.
For the same amount of time we got 50 times more animations in TGO from NLT.


You must start immediately playing more games.You can find at least 20 games with simular or even better animations in top 3 pages.


Do you guys remember the time when opening and closing the door was used to make up the time the console need to load next region of a game?
You have no idea how many i have played on here, Please tell me a games with good animations, Yeah theres a few with good ones but not many most are just daz crap
 

Ruby Tuesday

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I don't think you know what a top animator is.
The animations were good but Jen looks like she's holding a fart the entire time, andre looks like he was dealt a good poker hand and aiden looks like he's trying to look focused while letting a fart of his own without anyone noticing.

Plus they add nothing to the game, the entire thing could have been published without the animation and no one would have missed them. That other dude who said that those animations would be made in days instead of months was actually right, no wonder L&P deleted his post.
Quite agree. There's something about L&P's animation characters that reminds me of the Thunderbirds puppets (if anyone remembers these?).
What's regarded as good animation these days is getting very near to reality.
 

hmc15

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From what L&P said about the aminations that is what annoyed people and also the lengh of time it took.
One quote form L&P
The animations we're working on are supposed to be of higher quality and not such you see in other games of this kind! That's why it also takes a little longer.


You'll get a great high quality animation promo very soon. This should at least be a little compensation for the longer wait because of them. And with such kind of animations it is a big deal People who're working in this field need sometimes up to 3 months for just one animation! Of course these are absolutely top notch animations, best of the best! We're not making it that complicated (at least for this update) but it still needs more time than from other games which just do basic simple animations without much skills!
There is no "we". L&P is doing this all solo hence 3 minute update
 

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In future within 4 Playable day there will be hetero sex scenes with male character any one guess who is that first luckiest person.
 

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In future within 4 Playable day there will be hetero sex scenes with male character any one guess who is that first luckiest person.
For me it's very likely that these next straight sex scenes will be with Liam unfortunately. I know that Sophia's corruption is well advanced, but I don't see her having sex with anyone other than her husband for now.
 

armion82

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Heck no!!! I like some of Jackerman's work but it is completely different style to AWAM. Adding Jackerman to AWAM would just kill the game. If you want Jackerman then go find a Jackerman style game.
We don't want Jackerman's animations.We even don't want animations.
We want what is happening in Jackerman's animations.At least to some extent.
Imagine Sophia/Amber/Patricia/Alyssa doing something like this




or this
 

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For me it's very likely that these next straight sex scenes will be with Liam unfortunately. I know that Sophia's corruption is well advanced, but I don't see her having sex with anyone other than her husband for now.
Very sad to agree with this, but I have to. 2nd base was so hard to achieve for a guy she likes from a rock band after they killed that evening and he took her home and she liked him before - how can a home run be near? We still have not seen anyone getting 3rd base.
 
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We don't want Jackerman's animations.We even don't want animations.
We want what is happening in Jackerman's animations.At least to some extent.
Imagine Sophia/Amber/Patricia/Alyssa doing something like this




or this
No. Hell no!! As I sais I like Jackerman and I have copies of some of those animations. But they are NOT compatible with AWAM. Jackerman's visual style is TOTALLY different too L&P. I would prefer to keep the two completely separate and enjoy them on their own merits.
 

armion82

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No. Hell no!! As I sais I like Jackerman and I have copies of some of those animations. But they are NOT compatible with AWAM. Jackerman's visual style is TOTALLY different too L&P. I would prefer to keep the two completely separate and enjoy them on their own merits.
Did you even read what I said?
Or just skip all the text and check the animations?
I am saying we don't need the animations,we need the actions that happen in the animations to appear in AWAM.
 

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Did you even read what I said?
Or just skip all the text and check the animations?
I am saying we don't need the animations,we need the actions that happen in the animations to appear in AWAM.
That's what YOU WANT, and it's not the case for everyone. So be a little more aware of that. If i want a porn game. I go look for a porn game. That's not a porn game, and that's what most people don't get. it's an erotic game. the difference is quite big.
 

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The most of us agree that putting that much effort in animations of secondary characters was not worthy, considering the amount of time spent it. But still I think Lust&Passion could manage everything different.

For example, the Freshwomen's dev is also delivering top quality animations, and those take a lot of time too. But he releases a beta update, without all the animations, for the people who still want to play the update without them. And later he releases the complete update, with all the animations included, so the people don't need to wait too much between updates. By the way, that dev delivers a lot more animations because it seems that he has more than one animator, something that L&P should have, there are 7 people in his team.

If L&P would have released the v0.155 without animations moths ago and later the 0.160 including those animations, I think the hate would be less.

This is an example of a Freshwomen animation.
View attachment ep2 anim_fri_sexy_simon_gottalent.webm
 

EnriqueNic

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For example, the Freshwomen's dev is also delivering top quality animations
Mhmmm i don't think you can compare the two. This to me looks good but not as good . the movement is good , the expression too but other than that .... well nothing, lighting is flat. The Hair doesnt move. Only the dick moves so no. I think its good but not top quality. And if you need 7 animators for that. Well i guess the animator that works with L&P did a solid job.

Now i am with you for the time it took in order to get the update. It is simply not worth it. We need faster updates. Animations or not
 
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