VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.215f] [Lust & Passion]

[Kakato]

There’s no NTR tag on this game, yet nor a group sex tag, which should be after Aiden, Dre and Jennifer’s scene

Don't forget " rape " and " blackmail " which should also be added after the last update. The tags were not updated.

 

[ancienregimele]

The first teaser of the next update has been released by L&P in a post entitled "Here we go again" and, in my opinion, never has the title been more appropriate.
In fact "here we go again" with Sophia once again seeming to have totally misdressed, dressing too sexy to go on her meeting with Aiden to learn the terms of the next task to be performed. But above all "here we go again" with all those posts that fill the pages of this thread, fearing for our heroine at least the repetition of the worst scenarios that so far we have potentially encountered during the game experience: from the humiliation of being forced to undress in front of strangers (already seen in Day 15 with Janitor Clark) to group groping (already seen in Day 12 with the thugs of the subway station).

Spoiler: Day 15 & Day 12

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But how is it possible that out of all the regulars in this thread only I had this dejavu sensation? All this foreboding of catastrophic developments for Sophia's fate filled the pages of this thread already a few months ago.
It was in fact 30 August 2021 and L&P had just published, as the seventh teaser for update 0.150, this post:

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"At the biker bar"
This image (logically) didn't show much of anything (other than Sophia and Patricia arriving at the venue where Sam and his band would be performing), but combined with the fact that Sophia would be wearing (by choice of the L&P Patrons) the infamous boob pocket dress for the occasion,

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was enough to provoke a long series of posts on this thread in which (due to the outfit showing off her goodies) Sophia and her sister were speculated to have some very unpleasant experiences with the bikers and truckers present.
Then, when the update was made available on this thread and we all got to play that event, the result of all that concern for Sophia's fate was this:

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Today, as then, everyone seems to be very concerned about the L&P teaser due to the fact that it shows the (potentially very dangerous) concomitant presence of our heroine (dressed in an "unseemly" way to meet the neighbourhood bully who is tormenting her) and a group of kids and drifters (who seem to be eagerly waiting for her).
But this is a teaser and (just as a good aperitif should stimulate the appetite while waiting for dinner time) its task should be to tickle our imagination while waiting for the next update and make us formulate hypotheses and conjectures about what we will see in a short while.
Unfortunately, however, this is where our problem arises: the chef takes too long to prepare his delicacies and we, in the spasmodic wait to eat something, do nothing but tell ourselves if and how much we liked the previous course or what we would like to eat in the next one. But if, between courses, instead of cleaning our palate with a few sips of fresh water, we overdo it with the deceptive sparkling wine provided by the house as an aperitif, we risk getting drunk (which is even easier when someone hasn't eaten for a long time) and therefore no longer being able to appreciate the chef's cuisine.
It's fun to fantasize and hypothesize scenarios on the basis of what L&P offers us as teasers, but we must remember that the chosen images are presented not only with the logical intent of spoiling as little as possible the next update, but sometimes also with the clear intention of making us imagine developments (negative or positive as they may be) that, when the game will be updated, we will discover to be totally unfounded. So we shouldn't go overboard with speculation, otherwise we risk, on the basis of images taken out of the narrative context, giving rise to wild theories or, worse still, worrying for no reason as we did with the event of Sam's show at the bikers' bar.
So, based on what we've seen in this event, I think it's safe to expect a similar development for this meeting with Aiden too, at least for one big reason: Aiden doesn't want to give up so soon on the toy he's been enjoying so much lately.
Aiden may be pissed off about losing the bet with Andre (and possibly, if Sophia intervened in Jennifer's defense, he might be too for not being able to enjoy the object of winning said bet), but I don't think he wants to punish Sophia for that reason in a way as brutal as any form of group violence could be. Aiden doesn't want this opportunity to "improve" his reputation as a bad boy (which has been coming to him for a few days now in the form of his teacher/mother of one of his victims) to fade so quickly, and such a rapid escalation of events (with Sophia falling prey to his gang of thugs) would be counterproductive to what I think is the main purpose of his tasks for Sophia: to gain the respect of his peers (be they his classmates or his gang members) through the overpowering of an authority figure like his new teacher. Then, as far as I can tell from Sophia's conversation with the policeman who is informed about Aiden's criminal record (Day 16), the police are just waiting for him to be reported for something more serious than the crimes he has committed so far (beating and blackmailing some loser kid) in order to prepare an investigation that will bring him before a court other than the juvenile courts he has attended so far (and where the good and influential uncle lawyer has been able to dominate). Aiden is well aware of his condition and will therefore have every interest in ensuring that the level of the crimes he’s being investigated for is not raised by an allegation of gang rape.
Aiden is the leader of his gang because (despite being a despicable street rat) he's not stupid, or at least he's the smartest (and above all the most protected and wealthy) of the bullying kids he usually surrounds himself with. Therefore, as a leader, I think he will be able to protect his interests from the eventual lusts of his wingmen and will end up driving away all those who are not involved in this affair (as he already did in the previous meeting in the same place on Day 16) in order to continue discussing his business with Sophia.
Also, from the point of view of the future story unfolding, I think that any particularly traumatizing scenario for Sophia is not in line with the idea of the 12 tasks to be passed (if after the fourth task Sophia is so strongly harassed what would the remaining 8 tasks have in store for her?) and with the original purpose for which these tasks were introduced in the story (see this old post of mine about it).
It remains to be explained why Sophia chose to wear such a sexy outfit to go meet that rat Aiden in the open-air dump he uses as his gang's headquarters.
I have my own theory about that...

Spoiler: *Hic*

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That's very well thought-out but my worries at the biker bar & concern regarding the meeting, stem not just from what could happen but also the disappearing element of realism. If it carries on dissipating at this pace, (slow in RL but rapid in San Alejo time), we'll reach a level at which AWAM is just another average merry MILF shagging/incest romp, complete with a broken marriage & extra-marital pregnancy towards the end. If that's what the majority of the fan-base want, why wait? There's lots of games out there that will deliver & right now, not in the 2050s. They may not all have the exact same quality but most are either completed, deliver at a decent pace, or provide truthful, rational explanations as to why they're not delivering.

My worries about the bar were based on RL knowledge & experience, just as my worries about the meeting are. If I & those who try to think realistically, or at least laterally, don't set down these thoughts, (meaning that there is a slim chance that L&P will read them), the impression given by the VN itself & especially the teasers, can sometimes seem strange. [As though San Alejo existed in a "bizarro" dimension, as per vintage Superman comics]. It's almost as if such RL ideas hadn't entered the Dev's head. Now, I know that's highly unlikely but it's either that, or as you probably correctly deduce, it's bait. This, combined with the interminable wait for actual renders, gives ample time for a dozen or more theories of varying levels of plausibility. It passes the time but I always try to include something that I hope the Dev reads. Something, that speaks to realism.

I can hear the chorus of those who say, 'it's just porn', 'RL rules don't apply' etc. I would say, "it's not & why not?", if the Dev has not lost sight of his original mission statement? Maybe he has & there have been several indications that suggest this but in order to retain the advantage of being a game, "with class ", to quote the man himself, this trend should either stop, or be reversed. Fat chance, perhaps but I prefer to think, "slim chance", because it's not only possible but IMO essential to the maintenance of AWAM's position in the gaming pantheon. RL rules can never be fully applied to fiction, not least because events need to be compressed but the balance between what seemed possible & the suspension of disbelief were, again IMO, one of AWAM's greatest achievements for the first couple of years.

On a lighter note I enjoyed seeing your interpretation of Aiden's leadership abilities. Gang leaders rule largely by fear, or a combination of that with greater intelligence than their subordinates. [I've said something similar elsewhere]. Aiden's build & body type, compared to certain gang members would, for me, indicate the latter.

 

[mentosa]

The first teaser of the next update has been released by L&P in a post entitled "Here we go again" and, in my opinion, never has the title been more appropriate.
In fact "here we go again" with Sophia once again seeming to have totally misdressed, dressing too sexy to go on her meeting with Aiden to learn the terms of the next task to be performed. But above all "here we go again" with all those posts that fill the pages of this thread, fearing for our heroine at least the repetition of the worst scenarios that so far we have potentially encountered during the game experience: from the humiliation of being forced to undress in front of strangers (already seen in Day 15 with Janitor Clark) to group groping (already seen in Day 12 with the thugs of the subway station).

Spoiler: Day 15 & Day 12

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But how is it possible that out of all the regulars in this thread only I had this dejavu sensation? All this foreboding of catastrophic developments for Sophia's fate filled the pages of this thread already a few months ago.
It was in fact 30 August 2021 and L&P had just published, as the seventh teaser for update 0.150, this post:

View attachment 1781555​

"At the biker bar"
This image (logically) didn't show much of anything (other than Sophia and Patricia arriving at the venue where Sam and his band would be performing), but combined with the fact that Sophia would be wearing (by choice of the L&P Patrons) the infamous boob pocket dress for the occasion,

View attachment 1781557​

was enough to provoke a long series of posts on this thread in which (due to the outfit showing off her goodies) Sophia and her sister were speculated to have some very unpleasant experiences with the bikers and truckers present.
Then, when the update was made available on this thread and we all got to play that event, the result of all that concern for Sophia's fate was this:

View attachment 1781560​

Today, as then, everyone seems to be very concerned about the L&P teaser due to the fact that it shows the (potentially very dangerous) concomitant presence of our heroine (dressed in an "unseemly" way to meet the neighbourhood bully who is tormenting her) and a group of kids and drifters (who seem to be eagerly waiting for her).
But this is a teaser and (just as a good aperitif should stimulate the appetite while waiting for dinner time) its task should be to tickle our imagination while waiting for the next update and make us formulate hypotheses and conjectures about what we will see in a short while.
Unfortunately, however, this is where our problem arises: the chef takes too long to prepare his delicacies and we, in the spasmodic wait to eat something, do nothing but tell ourselves if and how much we liked the previous course or what we would like to eat in the next one. But if, between courses, instead of cleaning our palate with a few sips of fresh water, we overdo it with the deceptive sparkling wine provided by the house as an aperitif, we risk getting drunk (which is even easier when someone hasn't eaten for a long time) and therefore no longer being able to appreciate the chef's cuisine.
It's fun to fantasize and hypothesize scenarios on the basis of what L&P offers us as teasers, but we must remember that the chosen images are presented not only with the logical intent of spoiling as little as possible the next update, but sometimes also with the clear intention of making us imagine developments (negative or positive as they may be) that, when the game will be updated, we will discover to be totally unfounded. So we shouldn't go overboard with speculation, otherwise we risk, on the basis of images taken out of the narrative context, giving rise to wild theories or, worse still, worrying for no reason as we did with the event of Sam's show at the bikers' bar.
So, based on what we've seen in this event, I think it's safe to expect a similar development for this meeting with Aiden too, at least for one big reason: Aiden doesn't want to give up so soon on the toy he's been enjoying so much lately.
Aiden may be pissed off about losing the bet with Andre (and possibly, if Sophia intervened in Jennifer's defense, he might be too for not being able to enjoy the object of winning said bet), but I don't think he wants to punish Sophia for that reason in a way as brutal as any form of group violence could be. Aiden doesn't want this opportunity to "improve" his reputation as a bad boy (which has been coming to him for a few days now in the form of his teacher/mother of one of his victims) to fade so quickly, and such a rapid escalation of events (with Sophia falling prey to his gang of thugs) would be counterproductive to what I think is the main purpose of his tasks for Sophia: to gain the respect of his peers (be they his classmates or his gang members) through the overpowering of an authority figure like his new teacher. Then, as far as I can tell from Sophia's conversation with the policeman who is informed about Aiden's criminal record (Day 16), the police are just waiting for him to be reported for something more serious than the crimes he has committed so far (beating and blackmailing some loser kid) in order to prepare an investigation that will bring him before a court other than the juvenile courts he has attended so far (and where the good and influential uncle lawyer has been able to dominate). Aiden is well aware of his condition and will therefore have every interest in ensuring that the level of the crimes he’s being investigated for is not raised by an allegation of gang rape.
Aiden is the leader of his gang because (despite being a despicable street rat) he's not stupid, or at least he's the smartest (and above all the most protected and wealthy) of the bullying kids he usually surrounds himself with. Therefore, as a leader, I think he will be able to protect his interests from the eventual lusts of his wingmen and will end up driving away all those who are not involved in this affair (as he already did in the previous meeting in the same place on Day 16) in order to continue discussing his business with Sophia.
Also, from the point of view of the future story unfolding, I think that any particularly traumatizing scenario for Sophia is not in line with the idea of the 12 tasks to be passed (if after the fourth task Sophia is so strongly harassed what would the remaining 8 tasks have in store for her?) and with the original purpose for which these tasks were introduced in the story (see this old post of mine about it).
It remains to be explained why Sophia chose to wear such a sexy outfit to go meet that rat Aiden in the open-air dump he uses as his gang's headquarters.
I have my own theory about that...

Spoiler: *Hic*

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Can anyone summarize this? Apparently TL;DR is a thing of the past now, shame really, it could help spread the ideas.

 

[sophpa]

Wake me up when this crap reach v0.200

cryochamber on 30 years

 

[Rigternet45]

Guys help..I previously posted this but no one replied.
I am stuck and can't reach to the Evening event with Dylan and Ellie.After meeting with Don-Morello ,When Sophia was driving car,the game ended.
I let Dylan took the blame for the Cigarette scene but still cant reach to evening event .
Help me ..(I am following Sophia-Dylan path)

 

[Shnd1378]

And even for the 10mins update, release will take months..

 

[Radoslaw Wolf]

The next one is going to be short too. It's going to be Aiden and Morello's gang or the meeting between Sophia and Aiden. He injected another event before Dylan returned from boarding school. There is a possibility that he might include the boarding school but he hasn't confirmed it.

All updates going forward are event releases. So they are all going to be short.

Yet delivered at the same snail pace.

 

[sophpa]

We need Elon Musk to buy L&P so he work faster

 

[Ass Fan]

This update was very good it demonstrates that future updates will be very hot I also liked the choices you can ask Don Morello for help and you can also help Jennifer in all this.
"But what really intrigued me was Don Morello's word about an upcoming assignment for Sophia I have a chance. Maybe it's one more visit for your brother Larry and things are a little more sexy maybe even have a conjugal room and things can get out of hand but no sex because it's still a little early maybe a blowjob lol
or maybe Sophia will be given some Mafia tasks as an errand lady or she will start to be part of the Mafia or be a Mafia secretary Don Morello's personal there are many things available for Sophia to do in the Mafia let's wait and see what task this will be. I hope it's something exciting and very hot I really liked Sophia in this desk outfit. It's a perfect match

 

[Turret]

Can anyone summarize this? Apparently TL;DR is a thing of the past now, shame really, it could help spread the ideas.

That is rather easy to summarise: Dan5k74 is theorising and I agree with him on this, that the tension of the gang meeting will be solved like other events (e.g. the Biker Bar) before, short and with a cope out. Another overhyped mini event.
On the filthy route maybe, but that is a big just maybe, there might be some fondling by Aiden if Sophia is sufficiently corrupted and did not interfere in the threesome, but I would not bet on it! Former evidence shows that the event will not deliever what is now promised. It will be short, the tension will evaporate on most routes within seconds and end with a letdown and cope out.

 

[Alley_Cat]

That is rather easy to summarise: Dan5k74 is theorising and I agree with him on this, that the tension of the gang meeting will be solved like other events (e.g. the Biker Bar) before, short and with a cope out. Another overhyped mini event.
On the filthy route maybe, but that is a big just maybe, there might be some fondling by Aiden if Sophia is sufficiently corrupted and did not interfere in the threesome, but I would not bet on it! Former evidence shows that the event will not deliever what is now promised. It will be short, the tension will evaporate on most routes within seconds and end with a letdown and cope out.

So who will be the cockblocker? I've pretty much always held little regard for Aiden's tasks, since it's the girls who are making sure Sophia is comfortable, so can easily be corrupted. In the Yoga event Sophia even comments that she started getting naked without even realising it. She got to grope a young cutie, and no-one thought less of her.

So Patricia can get Sophia completely naked amongst almost complete strangers and be completely comfortable

 

[maybes4]

do you guys think meeting aiden is a big event?
If it is a big one, then there must be something along what the task aiden is going ask.
My bet is that aiden lied to sophia and his buddies are there sneaking.

 

[Turret]

So who will be the cockblocker? I've pretty much always held little regard for Aiden's tasks, since it's the girls who are making sure Sophia is comfortable, so can easily be corrupted. In the Yoga event Sophia even comments that she started getting naked without even realising it. She got to grope a young cutie, and no-one thought less of her.

So Patricia can get Sophia completely naked amongst almost complete strangers and be completely comfortable

That is quite a good observation, that Sophia is most easily put at ease by the girls in the game, esp. her Sis and Ellie. Which is another eason that the gang meeting with Aiden will be only on filthy road (which is currently not very filthy at all), but just maybe, have a bit fondling.
Which is why we need the triple date with Logan and Co. to get something, since both Pat and Ellie will be there too. Hopefully there is a chance somewhere down the line for Ellie to get together with Logan again, even if we for getting Dylan and Christine together had to kick Logan to the curb.

 

[Radoslaw Wolf]

do you guys think meeting aiden is a big event?

No.

 

[NathanSlayer]

game engine please ?

Slow coach engine

 

[Alley_Cat]

That is quite a good observation, that Sophia is most easily put at ease by the girls in the game, esp. her Sis and Ellie. Which is another eason that the gang meeting with Aiden will be only on filthy road (which is currently not very filthy at all), but just maybe, have a bit fondling.
Which is why we need the triple date with Logan and Co. to get something, since both Pat and Ellie will be there too. Hopefully there is a chance somewhere down the line for Ellie to get together with Logan again, even if we for getting Dylan and Christine together had to kick Logan to the curb.

I've been presuming since it was announced, that one of the three Ellie branches will be the Logan branch (as well as the Sam and Jules branches). Since at the end of the nightclub event they agrree they should next meet up on a non-school night, the earliest I can see that happening is PD21

 

[Lord_Xanatos]

Progress Report Ver. 0.161.

40% - 40%
0% - 0%

 

[lockerxx]

Progress Report Ver. 0.161.

40% - 40%
0% - 0%

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is moving!!! Lol

 

[Sadowdark]

This update was very good it demonstrates that future updates will be very hot I also liked the choices you can ask Don Morello for help and you can also help Jennifer in all this.
"But what really intrigued me was Don Morello's word about an upcoming assignment for Sophia I have a chance. Maybe it's one more visit for your brother Larry and things are a little more sexy maybe even have a conjugal room and things can get out of hand but no sex because it's still a little early maybe a blowjob lol
or maybe Sophia will be given some Mafia tasks as an errand lady or she will start to be part of the Mafia or be a Mafia secretary Don Morello's personal there are many things available for Sophia to do in the Mafia let's wait and see what task this will be. I hope it's something exciting and very hot I really liked Sophia in this desk outfit. It's a perfect match

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Or she would become the private tutor of Don Morello's children

 

[Deleted member 3217864]

This update was very good it demonstrates that future updates will be very hot

Every update is good in that sense as they all contribute to Sophia being an unfaithfull Wife and a Mother (see what I did there). But the problem is when will that happen, would I be alive to witness that? With the pace of the updates lack of content in the previous updates I am struggling to see this being soon. IMO last good update was this one