- Jul 3, 2021
- 1,874
- 11,724
Do you really need me to start quoting several other sources stating how Blackmail can be many things, one of them being the threat of physical harm to make the victim do something for them?I’m not wrong. You, my friend, are copy/pasting from the google search preview from "MyLawQuestions.com" - which is, well, not disreputable or anything, but designed to distill things down to a basic level of understanding. It is what it is.
Based on these sources, below, I am going to label myself the exact opposite of wrong:
18 U.S. Code Chapter 41 - EXTORTION AND THREATS
18 U.S. Code § 873 - Blackmail
Whoever, under a threat of informing, or as a consideration for not informing, against any violation of any law of the United States, demands or receives any money or other valuable thing, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both.
All other sub-chapters of 18 USC 41 refer to threats of violence or demands of ransom. Erego, I concluded, rightly I think, that Blackmail is specifically NOT the threat of violence but rather the threat of revealing embarassing or compromising information.
But you know, what's one source over another, so:
Miriam Webster:
extort
You must be registered to see the links
ex·tort | \ ik-ˈstȯrt \
extorted; extorting; extorts
: to obtain from a person by force, intimidation, or undue or illegal power :You must be registered to see the links
blackmail
You must be registered to see the links
black·mail | \ ˈblak-ˌmāl \
1: a tribute anciently exacted on the Scottish border by plundering chiefs in exchange for immunity from pillage
[this definition may explain why modern-day blackmail is sometimes conflated with threats of violence]
2a: extortion or coercion by threats especially of public exposure or criminal prosecution
From Lexico (Oxford English):
extort
VERB
blackmail
- Obtain (something) by force, threats, or other unfair means.
NOUN
Oxford Learner's Dictionaries (you know, for kids):
- The action, treated as a criminal offence, of demanding payment or another benefit from someone in return for not revealing compromising or damaging information about them.
extortion
noun
the crime of making somebody give you something by threatening them
blackmail
noun
the crime of demanding money from a person by threatening to tell somebody else a secret about them
Unless Aiden is threatening to release those classroom pictures of Sophia exposing herself, he's not committing blackmail. And, duh, silly me, he doesn't have those photos, does he?
Cambridge Dictionary;
"the act of getting money from people or forcing them to do something by threatening to tell a secret of theirs or to harm them"
"the act of threatening to harm someone or someone's reputation unless the person does as you say, or a payment made to someone who has threatened to harm you or your reputation if you fail to pay the person."
"a situation in which threats are made to harm a person or organization if they do not do something such as give someone money."
Wikipedia (granted, not the best source in some cases);
"Blackmail is an act of coercion using the threat of revealing or publicizing either substantially true or false information about a person or people unless certain demands are met. It is often damaging information, and it may be revealed to family members or associates rather than to the general public. These acts can also involve using threats of physical, mental or emotional harm, or of criminal prosecution, against the victim or someone close to the victim. It is normally carried out for personal gain, most commonly of position, money, or property."
The second you started quoting U.S Code had me pretty much lost, because whatever the meaning might be in the U.S., it certainly doesn't have to be the same in every other country on this planet, which is why I feel like there might be cultural differences here. You can literally find a million different definitions on the internet. Some would support what you said, others would support what I said.
So yeah, I'd say you've proven that it's not entirely clear what it is or isn't. But going back to the original reason for the discussion, my point still stands that what's going on between Aiden and Sophia certainly is not a simple "deal" as mentioned by another forum user who denied the fact that it is Blackmail (or as in your quoted definitions extortion).
My apologies for straight up calling what you said previously wrong. Guess it's not that simple.