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krak0n

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I dont care about any path anymore .just give me a good scene with sophia ivan and two other mover bois,I am a happy man
 

Sabertooth__

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Why remove Ellie route? you must be kidding :mad: she is my muse, I don't understand why you guys whant to remove characters just to see a end game, and what is the sence in remove a character from Sophia's family for me that don't make any sence at all :ROFLMAO:, imagine a hot family character with no filthy path how lame it would be, if you guys want a short game out there you guys can find plenty of bad games, how about it.
Don't misunderstand me, i like the Ellie Sophia relationship a lot too. That was just a hypothetical situation i mentioned. Cutting down the game is not a good solution. The only reasonable solution is that he finds someone who can make CS with him and just as good.
 
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In terms of removing characters, all I'm advocating is postponing scenes that add nothing to the main routes until after L&P has a complete game under his belt. For example, nothing in say the scene with Aiden/Andre/Jennifer advances Dylan's storyline. From my understanding, even arouses Sophia in any way. Or v.161. Could have been resolved with a phone call, and we might have even had an idea of what the 5th task might be.

Nothing in the next two updates advances Sophia's attraction to anyone either. And she's the MC, so I argue these updates can be safely removed or postponed. Like the Coach Sophia storyline.

As for removal of the Ellie route, I believe that's just trolling, and a deliberate misconstruing of what I'm suggesting, because I'm a vocal fan of Ellie. When questions of my favourite scene come up, inevitably it's the most recent Ellie shower. Only exception so far has been the Sophia/Ellie/Jules event in the backyard. Scenes like that, even though it's not Sophia/LI, keep those, since it is needed by Ellie for her to get off in the next shower event. Which I believe will be used by her to convince Sophia she can jill off in front of Ellie without feeling ashamed or embarrassed.

Even stuff like the last Alyssa event, I think should be kept, even though I personally pick the Ellie/Jules event every time. But the Alyssa scene is Sophia's first chance to try dick that isn't Liam's. The next Alyssa event on PD17 will probably be Sophia's first and only chance to get off by a dick that isn't Liam's.

And I'd really like to know Sophia might get off before the game possibly gets canceled. If we eventually get to the sex scenes, or by some miracle L&P speeds up to a PD every 6 months, then I might let up about insisting characters get removed.
I think I understand what you mean, but we can't change what already happened and I know there is some paths which don't please every player in the game, it's impossible to do soch a thing, I know everybody is crazy to see Dylan doing Sophia even me but we need to understand that incest is not the only story to be told in the game.
 

ticaaa

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so i finished part 1 and started to play part 2 at day 20 and its just a couple of slideshows of sophie's activities and it end saying to be continue , is part 2 that short ?
 

gnole13

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so i finished part 1 and started to play part 2 at day 20 and its just a couple of slideshows of sophie's activities and it end saying to be continue , is part 2 that short ?
Depends on your path, yes, can be short.
I am assuming you avoid Aiden's task.
 
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gnole13

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Or people can express fanatical hatred, right?
yeah, same. It is a" game". really, it is a game.
You (as an expression, anyone) love it or hate it.
If you love it continue to play, support, and sometimes express what you think.
If you hate it, don't play, continue with your life, no need to spend time on something you hate, right?

However, not just about this game, about everything, expressing feelings about something, is okay, sharing good and bad sides, is okay, and discussing, and arguing, is okay.
But escalating the arguments to a point showing fanatical emotions and starting to fight with people...
Hmm, idk, not okay?

Is it me or like dev has a couple of accounts and use them to praise or defend his game after every update?
Probably it is me.
People can fanatically love this game, right?
Btw, I made an observation, it is something that I have observed during these years. You can say no it is not true, or you can yes it might be.
 

lockerxx

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so i finished part 1 and started to play part 2 at day 20 and its just a couple of slideshows of sophie's activities and it end saying to be continue , is part 2 that short ?
if you are not in the Aiden path yes is that short.
 
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GingerSweetGirl

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I get your point Alley_Cat , and I think it's sensible, but also largely impractical. Cutting or restructuring story elements should have happened in pre-production editing. While changes are possible during the game's development, I think the wholesale restructuring that you're talking about would be a nightmare. I think L&P has crafted a game that is so interconnected in ways big and small, that deciding midstream to move content to DLC would be too difficult. Some, like the side jobs, could be more easily removed than others, but I have a feeling that all of these storylines will be interconnected in some way. It could manifest in dialog and references, or it could manifest in entire plot points. But either way, it would require extensive work to the script to make sure that continuity is maintained, while also planning for the future insertion of the removed material.

The original sin has always been L&P's project management skills and his lack of help. He badly needed a trusted confidant early in development that could help him manage the story and point out potential issues. Now that we're about a 1/3 of the way through the game I just don't think he could easily remove much content without taking extensive time to modify the script accordingly.
 
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drax 4998

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Having in mind that the next update will be about our little boy Dylan I did this image to show you guys how our little boy had your artwork improved, from the very beginning till the last update, very proud of his evolution lol

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That's the question how this motherfucker grow so much beside it's just 20 or 19 day just pass after they come this new city
Or else the time is faster in l&P world
 

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Having in mind that the next update will be about our little boy Dylan I did this image to show you guys how our little boy had your artwork improved, from the very beginning till the last update, very proud of his evolution lol
Meh. Once a simp, always a simp. Can't wait for the story to get back to Sophia.
 
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That's the question how this motherfucker grow so much beside it's just 20 or 19 day just pass after they come this new city
Or else the time is faster in l&P world
L&P improve his artwork, is doesn't mean the character get older, every character have changed along the game production would be freaking weird if not, do you realy think L&P wold be here today if his work don't have improved, he got money and knowlege through the years an improvement on his artwork is the must natural thing to happen.
 

Alley_Cat

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I dont care about any path anymore .just give me a good scene with sophia ivan and two other mover bois,I am a happy man
This game probably isn't for you then. Ivan and the movers aren't due to return until the end of the game, which isn't likely until decades from now. And even then, is probably just going to be Sophia being kicked out of the house after being caught cheating on Liam. So not the "good scene" you're looking for.
I think I understand what you mean, but we can't change what already happened and I know there is some paths which don't please every player in the game, it's impossible to do soch a thing, I know everybody is crazy to see Dylan doing Sophia even me but we need to understand that incest is not the only story to be told in the game.
Of course not. For those that don't want incest there's the Sam route. Only reason I tend not to mention him in these discussions is that since we believe Dylan will be the last with Sophia, but the most popular and his fans already proven influential in getting things done, I mainly talk about Dylan instead.
I get your point Alley_Cat , and I think it's sensible, but also largely impractical. Cutting or restructuring story elements should have happened in pre-production editing. While changes are possible during the game's development, I think the wholesale restructuring that you're talking about would be a nightmare. I think L&P has crafted a game that is so interconnected in ways big and small, that deciding midstream to move content to DLC would be too difficult. Some, like the side jobs, could be more easily removed than others, but I have a feeling that all of these storylines will be interconnected in some way. It could manifest in dialog and references, or it could manifest in entire plot points. But either way, it would require extensive work to the script to make sure that continuity is maintained, while also planning for the future insertion of the removed material.

The original sin has always been L&P's project management skills and his lack of help. He badly needed a trusted confidant early in development that could help him manage the story and point out potential issues. Now that we're about a 1/3 of the way through the game I just don't think he could easily remove much content without taking extensive time to modify the script accordingly.
I'm not talking about restructuring what's already happened. Anything like that would only delay things, which would defeat the entire point of getting the game done within a reasonable time.

I'm more suggesting something like what L&P did with Coach Sophia - everything to be cut simply has a black scene with something like: "To be continued in DLC". Yeah, it'd be jarring for those on those particular paths, but all that would be smoothed out eventually.

All this also presumes that L&P isn't speeding up production in other ways. Production of 1 PD every six months is pretty much what L&P needs to achieve in order to get to his recently stated estimate of the game being produced in 10 years. Which translates roughly to an update every 2 - 3 weeks, which we're not even close to for even a small event like this, let alone what will probably be larger ones like the Sophia/Sam and Sophia/Dylan events later this PD.

Even 15 years would be 1 PD every 9 months, and even that is unlikely.
 

TommyTuba

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Here for whoever don't find the way where Amber and Dylan have their special momente by the pool: you guys need to play the game till "DAY- 16" then meet Aiden and "don't accept the deal" I repeat do not accept the deal with Aiden, it wil lead you to the scene with Dylan and Amber on "DAY- 17" after it you guys come here and tell me if you guys realy think that next update will be boring like some are saying.
Interesting. I’ll try it.
 
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