VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.215f] [Lust & Passion]

[HentaiKami]

Hah, i have to wonder how many people here who complain about how L&P works are actually paying customers . Personally i don't really care to complain about the amount of content, because i enjoy the game and i'm not paying for it currently. Also they are single amateur dev, sure they get really good amount of money, but it doesn't really change the fact that they are not professional dev in a sense that they had training and experience of doing such before starting this. People put way too much expectations on these amateur devs, when professional devs can and will also betray expectations quite regularly.

Just skip some updates and come back on later date, there's lots of games here to play while you wait for decent amount of content to be made for your next play through. Perhaps by that point you might even want to play it again from the start like i usually do with games, due to saves breaking too often with some games.

 

[Lederzar]

That is not bullshit, but strategy. He needs new patrons to milk, because I am sure most of those being with him in the beginning are fed up with L&P´s lies and development speed. Those players not coming in via F95, do not get the full picture and can be liberated of their money for a couple months.

If that line of thought is true, then what he's doing is a scam motivated by greed and any lack decent conduct throw the people (older or new) that is paying him for developing AWAM.

Disappointed but not unexpected

 

[passionatefanlust]

Hah, i have to wonder how many people here who complain about how L&P works are actually paying customers . Personally i don't really care to complain about the amount of content, because i enjoy the game and i'm not paying for it currently. Also they are single amateur dev, sure they get really good amount of money, but it doesn't really change the fact that they are not professional dev in a sense that they had training and experience of doing such before starting this. People put way too much expectations on these amateur devs, when professional devs can and will also betray expectations quite regularly.

Just skip some updates and come back on later date, there's lots of games here to play while you wait for decent amount of content to be made for your next play through. Perhaps by that point you might even want to play it again from the start like i usually do with games, due to saves breaking too often with some games.

A lot of people here were patrons at one point, now they just made the decision not to give money until the milk stops. And rightfully so.

 

[HentaiKami]

A lot of people here were patrons at one point, now they just made the decision not to give money until the milk stops. And rightfully so.

I mean, that's their right and if they don't feel like they get their money's worth then definitely do stop paying, not arguing that. I just doubt that moaning about these things will have that big of an effect if you do it on piracy forum. Mostly waste of energy at that point unless you get kicks out of it. If dev was active member of this forum then sure i could see benefit in doing so.

 

[Morgu2]

Bitch please this is the scene:
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wtf how do you get this scene??

 

[HentaiKami]

wtf how do you get this scene??

You need to be on Ellie and Patricia paths and go out with them, then end up kissing Patricia in the bar and allow Ellie to shower with you. Walkthrough should have more accurate guide for that scene.

 

[lockerxx]

wtf how do you get this scene??

is the ellie/patricia path follow the Walkthrough .

 

[passionatefanlust]

I mean, that's their right and if they don't feel like they get their money's worth then definitely do stop paying, not arguing that. I just doubt that moaning about these things will have that big of an effect if you do it on piracy forum. Mostly waste of energy at that point unless you get kicks out of it. If dev was active member of this forum then sure i could see benefit in doing so.

He is one though, reads everything that goes on here.

We're expecting the answer to this now:

It's time he finally admits he's not really searching for any help for the part that matters which is the creation of scenes. Maybe that day is today.

 

[Deleted member 4922995]

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[HentaiKami]

ok for your comment, but :

I always wonder why some people think that paying (or not paying) valid (or invalid) arguments/opinions/reviews/complains ?

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PS According to this rule, I'm always wrong

It depends on the criticism you are making and how much you have skin in the game so to speak. Being a pirate and the complaining about the lack of progress dev makes or decisions they take is less effective than being paying customer. Now if your criticism is about quality of content/writing etc..., then the aspect of you being pirate is not as important for effectiveness of criticism.

I'm not saying you can't make criticism even if you pirate this game about the lack of progress and decisions of the dev, just that from devs point of view those criticisms are essentially not important. They mostly have to care about how their paying customers feel about it.

And to make it clear, i'm not happy with the speed of L&P making progress, i just don't see too much point in having multiple page long complain train going on about the subject.

 

[allgoodhere93]

Wait wait wait. Let me get this straight. Instead of trying to speed up the production of the game. He is taking his "free time" to remaster the beginning of the game? Are you kidding me???

 

[lockerxx]

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I used my freetime after the last update to remake the very first scenes of the game. Because the graphics are just terrible compared to my current standards, as you can see very well in a side-by-side comparison. Everything just didn't add up, from the poses to the expressions, the cloth and hair, to the catastrophic lighting. Which of course is understandable as these were my very first attempts at art creation.

I wanted to do this for a long time to close this extreme artistic gap between where the game started and where it is now.
So, I will spend about 1 week of my freetime after every update, to remake the very beginning of the game. Let's see how far I get because it really is many times more demanding to create renders with my today's quality compared to those from the first half of the game. I felt this very well during my work of the flight and airport scene. I'll be already happy if I manage to remake at least the first day.

Now I will start with the next update 0.175 (Sophia/Sam). I'm planning to release the first teaser of it next week.

Spoiler: A couple of samples.

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1 week in a remake of the first day? sure why not.

 

[naughtynafz]

and how he will release it now... as his games are in parts... day 1 is in first part of the game

 

[Hotcoupleeasy]

The developer is brilliant. He is perfectionist also. We will be having total of 4 or maybe 5 updates this year. The storyline is so erotic. I will continue supporting him. Can't wait to the next updates ( and his new games ). When I play other games sometimes I laugh. AWAM is the only game the rest are jokes and rubbish.

 

[armion82]

WTF? does he really think we are going to go back and play the boring 1st day again cause he upgraded the renders? What a fuckin joke & a waste of time!
That’s something You do when the game is finished, but now it never will be, unbelievable.

Don't give him more ideas.
Suddenly he can decide to remake the whole week.

 

[Turret]

The developer is brilliant. He is perfectionist also. We will be having total of 4 or maybe 5 updates this year. The storyline is so erotic. I will continue supporting him. Can't wait to the next updates ( and his new games ). When I play other games sometimes I laugh. AWAM is the only game the rest are jokes and rubbish.

And Einstein is proven right once again! Only two things are endless...

 

[Kirill86]

I don't understand why you're unhappy with the remaster. He said that instead of resting after the update, he would remaster the early scenes. This does not mean that he scored on the creation of the main update.

 

[PaxHadrian17]

So right now, L&P is redoing part of day 1, part 1 in his free time. How long until we start losing prime time to the remaster? This should be the perfect time for one of his new team members to be upgrading early part 1 renders so that L&P can focus on part 2. Now it's time for L&P to show that he can delegate this less important task to someone else.

 

[armion82]

Again, it's not about his "freetime". Nobody cares what he does in his freetime. We already knew he takes a week off from development after each update.

It's the fact that when developers start reworking stuff, it doesn't work out. So many games end up in an endless cycle of being reworked that people have every reason to be concerned.

Right now, it seems to be a 1-1 render swap. But what if he starts making new renders? What if he starts reworking the dialog? What if his "freetime" rework extends into and delays the start of the new content?

And he didn't do this for new people who just found the game. If he did, he would've said so. He did this because he doesn't like the early game art, like he said. Nothing more, nothing less.

Let's hope he won't split PD14 on 15 parts in order to get more free time to remake more days.

Why this surprises anyone now remains a mystery to me. L&P strives for perfection. Perfection as L&P understands it. He has not reworked these images for anyone, only for himself.
From the little I know about L&P, it was always clear to me that it was only a matter of time before his old works would be so disturbing that he had no choice but to rework them.
Nevertheless, it looks to me as if the revised images do not reach the current standard. They look more like assembly line production, which is good. But I can be wrong.

The problem with remaking the renders is,that after 5 years there will be more renders in need of a remake.And after another 5 years even more.What right now is looking as a top render,after 15 years probably will look like very poor render.

 

[allgoodhere93]

I don't understand why you're unhappy with the remaster. He said that instead of resting after the update, he would remaster the early scenes. This does not mean that he scored on the creation of the main update.

Because he could have taken that extra time to work on the new update. He needs that time to "rest". Now he isnt resting yet working but not on the new update. On old stuff. Makes sense.