VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.215f] [Lust & Passion]

[stoper]

...showing too much too early can very much kill a part of the sexual tension...

This is the only part I disagree with. I don't see how a steamy, well made sex scene with the husband would've killed the tension.
IMHO, it would've given meaning to the eventual cheating. As it stand now, the husband is a tool no one likes. And the Loving Wife choices seem pointless.

 

[xןʞ]

Unfufilled husbandly duties have been shown as a plot point already though which is foreshadowing for future son/neighbor putting in work action obviously.

Lack of sexy time has been explained with mutiple instances of husband being a beta who cares more about Seahawks game on tv.

 

[stoper]

@klx , I understand that. I stated the same point on the previous page. I'm just saying that early sex can be made well and wouldn't necessarily ruin the game.
And, like I said, the whole thing with the "beta" and him being useless, pretty much destroys the faithful path.

 

[xןʞ]

You know good and well no one picks the faithful path in these games anyway. :angel:

 

[n0b0dy]

This is the only part I disagree with. I don't see how a steamy, well made sex scene with the husband would've killed the tension.

Well as I see it the story is about a women who's relationship with her husband has grown stale and deals with sexual frustration as a result. I think it is important to be shown this frustration and the cracks in the marriage to humanize her. better understand her motivation for the cheating that is sure to follow. By showing their relationship in the bedroom is not what it is used to be we can empathize with her need to cheat better so I think them not heaving sex yet is a wise decision.

I mean it isn't just him though that seem to be missing the intended concept of the game as envisioned by the dev.

He's had to tell people on Patreon comments too that plotless "super-slut sim" trash like Elena's Life and Katie's Corruption are kind of the last thing he's trying to make.

I just think people don't seem to realize that dev isn't planning on making this a "slut fucks every male in the city for no rhyme or reason" type of game from everything I've read on patreon, and is seemingly going to make it about building (seckzi) relationships with the main plot people in the game.

Yeah, I think in like over 90% of the games with a female protagonist she turns into a mindless slut and fucks the whole town 'just cause she is a slut' so I guess it is understandable people expect that from this game also. It is rare to see a developer like L&P who tries to tell a more complex story with more realistic acting characters and some build-up. I think that's the reason this game generates so much enthusiasm from folks like me who enjoy a slower-paced adult game with relatable characters. There are not many games who get over 1000 comments in less then 2 months from the start so that shows the game really connects with people so far.

 

[Whitenicky]

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[stoper]

You know good and well no one picks the faithful path in these games anyway. :angel:

True. But that's exactly because everyone follows the same template.
@n0b0dy , again, I understand that. But at this point the author is just loosing time on creating a path no one will follow.
Imagine if you're playing a Star Wars Jedi game and you can choose between Dark and Light Side, but the Light Side is just sitting down on the ground and meditating.

@wewlad , that's the impression I was left with from your comments. Sorry if I've misunderstood you.

 

[xןʞ]

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Workout was posted a ways back but..

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Let's get ready is a 30 dollar one and it seems no one is a 30 dollar patron except random Russian dudes and lurkers here who have zero posts so prob will never get it.

 

[lockhear]

RWaites is random russian lurker? :closedeyesmile:

 

[RWaites]

Spoiler: Workout time/Let's get ready

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[n0b0dy]

True. But that's exactly because everyone follows the same template.
@n0b0dy , again, I understand that. But at this point the author is just loosing time on creating a path no one will follow.
Imagine if you're playing a Star Wars Jedi game and you can choose between Dark and Light Side, but the Light Side is just sitting down on the ground and meditating.
you.

Is it not way more fun to go to the dark side and be a cruel motherfucker when you know you have a choice though? If you know have to act that way it just way less fun so I think there is value in creating a good wife route even if nobody will play it. And I am sure people will play it, for example I am playing mostly like a 'good girl' in good girl gone bad. If that game only had a slut route I would not like it and would not play it.

 

[xןʞ]

It is kind of crazy looking at some of the people who pledge some of the stuff I pledge to and have their profiles public.

A few of them have like a hundred pledges of like 10-20 dollar or more pledges.

Gosh darn big money drug overlords pledging on patreon.

 

[stoper]

@n0b0dy , you have a point, I agree. I still think it's all the sweeter if both paths have meaning.

 

[ponyguy]

I am playing mostly like a 'good girl' in good girl gone bad.

playing mostly like a 'good girl'

'good girl'

Gasp! You poor man. Hentai Gods save you.

 

[n0b0dy]

Gasp! You poor man. Hentai Gods save you.

Haha, yeah I know how it looks :coldsweat:
I did not expect I would want to do a good run beforehand but I found out it is just too much fun to let Ashley blueball every guy so I just went with it. I let her pretend she is interested in them and get them all hot and ready and then abort the last minute. There are not many room for sadism in that game but I can still scratch my itch that way and the archetype of the mindbroken slut just has never appealed to me so I try to avoid those kind of routes when possible. But that is one of the things I like the most from GGGB, it really feels like you control the story and you are not just following a path that has been layed out for you so you can really make the MC do what you want and create a story you like.

 

[wewlad]

I mean...the only one really "expressing real concerns" is you.

Most everyone else is anxiously waiting for the update.

As am I, why does the two have to be mutually exclusive? Not everyone is a mindless lapdog of any new developer, like you.

The problem I have with comments like this is that there are all kinds assumptions on what an adult game should look like. Saying a game is "porn" and therefore should have nudity in it in the first act seems pretty ignorant to me.

Stopped reading after the portion i've just quoted, if that's all you got from my post, then the only one being ignorant is you.

This is a sex game, if the developer is being that tentative around sex, to the point that he's even putting off nudity, then that goes against his "realistic tone", that's he's ironically trying to convey. It's just humorous to say the least.

The developer may as well have a scene like this one from Austin Powers


Because that's how silly it is to be that prude about nudity in a fucking Adult sex game that is trying to be as realistic as possible (developers own words).There's nothing deep or complex about that, it's just silly.

Pretty funny that people are actually defending this but hey, every developer comes with his fair share of braindead sheep who will defend everything he does.

Just look that the Dual Family developer.

"wtf, I HATE nudity in my porn games!" - f95zone in 2017

 

[ponyguy]

I did not expect I would want to do a good run beforehand but I found out it is just too much fun to let Ashley blueball every guy so I just went with it. I let her pretend she is interested in them and get them all hot and ready and then abort the last minute.

Man, that's cruel. Those poor bastards. :FeelsBadMan:

the archetype of the mindbroken slut just has never appealed to me

Oh my... You poor lost soul...

Hentai Gods, forgive this child. They know not the sins they commit! Forgive them!

 

[n0b0dy]

This is a sex game, if the developer is being that tentative around sex, to the point that he's even putting off nudity, then that goes against his "realistic tone", that's he's ironically trying to convey. It's just humorous to say the least.

The developer is consciously putting of nudity in the same way a girl who does a striptease does not start doing it naked. Sometimes the sexy comes not from what is shown but also very much from what is not shown. If you can't see that than I can't help you.

Man, that's cruel. Those poor bastards. :FeelsBadMan:


Oh my... You poor lost soul...

Hentai Gods, forgive this child. They know not the sins they commit! Forgive them!

Yeah it is very rough for me since I really like enjoy rape in porn games but I can't enjoy many of those games since I just really dislike mindbreak and mindcontrol :teary:

It seems a bit cruel of the H-gods yes but on the other hand they have blessed me with the gifts of enjoying things like urination, guro, torture, bestiality, pet-play and femdom so I feel I just should be gratefull to them for that since I know not many mortals have received those blessings

 

[wewlad]

The developer is consciously putting of nudity in the same way a girl who does a striptease does not start doing it naked. Sometimes the sexy comes not from what is shown but also very much from what is not shown. If you can't see that than I can't help you.

Well, I guess the developer better be content with <2,000 bucks a month and not coming close to the top developers in popularity if that's how prudish he's going to be in regards to even nudity.

Judging by his past comments, I doubt he'll be happy with that.

 

[ponyguy]

Yeah it is very rough for me since I really like enjoy rape in porn games but I can't enjoy many of those games since I just really dislike mindbreak and mindcontrol :teary:

You have my condolences, child. As you know, I too am a lover of rape. And those are some of my favorite fetishes to go along with it. It is a great shame you cannot experience the bliss I experience when exposed to them.

It seems a bit cruel of the H-gods yes but on the other hand they have blessed me with the gifts of enjoying things like urination, guro, torture, bestiality, pet-play and femdom so I feel I just should be gratefull to them for that since I know not many mortals have received those blessings

Ah, good, good. Then they have not forsaken you as badly as I thought. You may not be able to enjoy it all, as I am, but at least you can enjoy more than most others. Truly, you are blessed. Hentai Gods guide you, always. :angel: