VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.215f] [Lust & Passion]

[XaGnard]

This game has so much potential, and yet, L&P is missing all the opportunities to finally bring it forward. After 5 years of development, why is this game still about the question whether Sophia is ready to show her breasts or not? Why is there yet another new character who is more or less just a copy of the traits of other characters who were introduced years ago?

Also, What really upsets me with this update is that L&P did nothing with the cliffhangers from the last update. Julia's appearance at the door and even more a Dylan watching the event between Sophia and Sam would have had a lot of potential to move the story forward and bring further entanglements between the already established characters. That L&P simply ignores these possibilities, even though he himself has so clearly opened them up, is just downright pathetic.

The only positive aspect in this update was the event between Dylan and Marie. There was really a step forward. But here, too, I wonder how many more years will have to pass before something really happens in this story line. AWAM has been 5 and a half years in the making, and it's still about to watch breasts. That is simply far too little, even for a slow progress game.

 

[Kenjie619]

Boring update

 

[hzjujk]

This game has so much potential, and yet, L&P is missing all the opportunities to finally bring it forward. After 5 years of development, why is this game still about the question whether Sophia is ready to show her breasts or not? Why is there yet another new character who is more or less just a copy of the traits of other characters who were introduced years ago?

Also, What really upsets me with this update is that L&P did nothing with the cliffhangers from the last update. Julia's appearance at the door and even more a Dylan watching the event between Sophia and Sam would have had a lot of potential to move the story forward and bring further entanglements between the already established characters. That L&P simply ignores these possibilities, even though he himself has so clearly opened them up, is just downright pathetic.

The only positive aspect in this update was the event between Dylan and Marie. There was really a step forward. But here, too, I wonder how many more years will have to pass before something really happens in this story line. AWAM has been 5 and a half years in the making, and it's still about to watch breasts. That is simply far too little, even for a slow progress game.

Pathetic, you say. I think it was a bad idea to do that cliffhanger in the first place. I think it was intended more as a joke by L&P. And then it totally backfired.
All the suggestions I've read about the possibilities were difficult or impossible to implement story-wise. Not without endless dialogues. And it always came down to blackmail/coercion/settlement of a debt.

 

[wzelisen]

I don't even know what to say about this update...

0.175 very poor resolution Sam is quicksilver/flash, Julia hysterical, Amber falsely naive
Claire/Sophia just touch a little Sophia's breast (no pinching, squeezing, ... nada, nothing, rien, wallou, nichts, ничего, ...)
Dylan/Marie just a kiss on lips (no passion...), irruption of the old lady, totally useless new adventure with Marie's teacher, rivality with Marie's boyfriend (Dylan Marie just fuck ! don’t take care of the rest)
Minigame waste of time (put a choice menu : 'look/resist' )

Just glances, tight lips, visible tits...

None of the characters assume their choices. Sophia is always embarrassed or guilty after the fact...

Some people talk about Sophia's progression?! where ? let someone see her breasts (oh what a progression ! remember shower, bath, spa, swimming pool, myers, ...) Do these people know the game to talk about progression?

This game is going in circles. What is the exit's condition of this infernal loop?

I'm leaving this thread until this exit is taken.

The V0.175 job was delivered in two installments

 

[m3nic]

How to trigger Sophia teach boys about sexual. Thx

 

[Luis2008]

Isn't his just the same stuff you get anyways if you had Dylans POV at yoga?

I can't say for sure since I went on the Sophia path. However others on the forum are mentioning that can't see that part if they were on the Dylan path. But in the gallery it seems the lotion massage is in both paths. Though I don't know if the subtle lesbian talk Claire and Sophia had is there or not.

 

[Sonny86]

WOW!!! Waiting 3 months for that?!!! How does he still have Patrons?!!! Inexcusable!!!!

 

[esoom]

an update... *get's popcorn ready*

 

[bardock8114]

How to trigger Sophia teach boys about sexual. Thx

Do not accept the nursing job

 

[Tulrek]

Who succeed at the laundomat mini-game ?
The second stage is unbeatable for me. The stare goes dwon so fast !

In the settings, click the skip text option and heal ctrl

Ok got it. You have to put your mouse at the very top of the screen just underneath the border.
And fap hard !!

The mouse doesn't has to move that fast but you must keep it in motion.

 

[abram1]

Usually I don't read text in these kind of games, so I decided to pay attention to what he's actually put in his VN this time and, oh-boy, wish I didn't.

Spoiler: titty calling

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Milk dispensers, eye-catchers and funbags. What the ...? I've had a feeling that a teenager was writing down these lines and not my peer. Wow, just wow. That's borderline silliness.

As I played the second time whilst reading stupidity above, 0.180 hints at really good stuff for 0.185/0.190.

Spoiler: you bet

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That's exactly how it's gonna play out. Dylan has seen everything just like Ellie/Julia caught Sophia spying on them. They preferred not to spook her. Ellie's the one playing mind games with her mom, not the other way around. I guess not all the fans realized that by now.
Take a look at the several lines of Dylan's inner thoughts on the cuck route at the very end. He'll do the same trick as his sis. He has his ace in the sleeve aka he knows more or less what has happened right in front his parents room. Same trope. Julia ups her game with Sophia, Ellie presses her mom and, voila - one of the best scenes under shower afterwards. Dylan has to press the same button. If Sam gets so much attention and care is it fair for Dylan being "abandoned" or whatever explanation L&P comes up with.

It wasn't the best update, clearly. From now on, at least on a Sophia/Dylan path things gonna be heating up. By the end of PD14 he has to catch up with Sam. So far he only kneaded her butt, that's it, Think about what Ellie has achieved starting from PD10 (hot evening shower scene) to PD14 (smth hotter than shower on PD12). Dylan gonna have to make identical progress as his buddy and sis, but within remaining PD13/14 events.
I'd say that AWAM starts for real only now, after a 5+ years of warming up. Sideplots like Old gents, 3 imbeciles, Emma might still feel like a drag, but Sophia's kids and her sis storylines are about to go boom. Once you reach the bottom, the only way is up, unless it was a double-bottom barrel, then we're fucked, lol.

 

[TomUK]

Hai, everyone
How to get scene Sophia teaching boys about adult sexual.

Don't take the 1st side job.

L&P already said that Dylan is supposed to catch up with the most recent Sam event this evening. If that happens, there's no way it's gonna be realistic, but the game needs to progress anyway, otherwise future PD's will become even more unrealistic as Sophia has to make huge leaps in her corruption at some point. I just wish he'd do it differently. With some actual adult characters first instead of her own son and his childhood friend next door, for example. But oh well..

I'm sure her corruption is already on the go if you have taken all the filthy options, but next update judging by this one is the date with her swinger friends.

why I can not get the laundry scene to trigger?? what I have or havent done??!!!

There are too many routes and this is one of them, I guess its something that came out of the yoga session with Sophia trying to set Dylan up with Marie. I missed that too as I already got 6 routes to follow.

No more Mafia ,simply she paid a lux house debt by showing her boobs lol .
and School Blackmailing stopped .

I don't even know what happens if Sophia doesn't do what the mafia don's brother asks her to do, that could change a few things.


I think L&P missed an opportunity after Sophia and Sam event, when Sophia got changed to go to the hairdressers, she could have got changed without closing the curtains to give Sam a treat, but instead of Sam seeing her, she doesn't realise it's Sam's dad or mother or even Julia.

 

[Landon123]

Usually I don't read text in these kind of games, so I decided to pay attention to what he's actually put in his VN this time and, oh-boy, wish I didn't.

Spoiler: titty calling

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Milk dispensers, eye-catchers and funbags. What the ...? I've had a feeling that a teenager was writing down these lines and not my peer. Wow, just wow. That's borderline silliness.

As I played the second time whilst reading stupidity above, 0.180 hints at really good stuff for 0.185/0.190.

Spoiler: you bet

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That's exactly how it's gonna play out. Dylan has seen everything just like Ellie/Julia caught Sophia spying on them. They preferred not to spook her. Ellie's the one playing mind games with her mom, not the other way around. I guess not all the fans realized that by now.
Take a look at the several lines of Dylan's inner thoughts on the cuck route at the very end. He'll do the same trick as his sis. He has his ace in the sleeve aka he knows more or less what has happened right in front his parents room. Same trope. Julia ups her game with Sophia, Ellie presses her mom and, voila - one of the best scenes under shower afterwards. Dylan has to press the same button. If Sam gets so much attention and care is it fair for Dylan being "abandoned" or whatever explanation L&P comes up with.

It wasn't the best update, clearly. From now on, at least on a Sophia/Dylan path things gonna be heating up. By the end of PD14 he has to catch up with Sam. So far he only kneaded her butt, that's it, Think about what Ellie has achieved starting from PD10 (hot evening shower scene) to PD14 (smth hotter than shower on PD12). Dylan gonna have to make identical progress as his buddy and sis, but within remaining PD13/14 events.
I'd say that AWAM starts for real only now, after a 5+ years of warming up. Sideplots like Old gents, 3 imbeciles, Emma might still feel like a drag, but Sophia's kids and her sis storylines are about to go boom. Once you reach the bottom, the only way is up, unless it was a double-bottom barrel, then we're fucked, lol.

Thanks for sharing images.

 

[Woodalicca]

I searched for the Words " Useless update " in the dictionnary and " AWAM V 0.180 " was next to it. What a farce...

 

[humanno21]

Any penetration yet? I remember when this game first released, people were so excited.

Yes, into supporters ass

 

[XaGnard]

Pathetic, you say. I think it was a bad idea to do that cliffhanger in the first place. I think it was intended more as a joke by L&P. And then it totally backfired.
All the suggestions I've read about the possibilities were difficult or impossible to implement story-wise. Not without endless dialogues. And it always came down to blackmail/coercion/settlement of a debt.

There are so many possibilities, especially for Dylan as an observer of the event between Sophia and Sam, that would not have had to end in blackmail. The crucial point would have been that Dylan get some more knowlege about what Sophia is already doing outside her marriage to get his story make some progress. It would also be the cuckold path, just with more connection between the story lines, what would normaly be considered a good thing for story telling. The event with Sophia, Claire and the new character is just a less involved version of that, with the new charkter as replacement for Sam. It is the same idea just at a much slower pace.

One possibility would have been if L&P had reversed the order of the updates. If Dylan had seen the slow progess event in the salon first, he would have been much better prepared to observe the event between Sophia and Sam. It would have been a voyeur event based on his kink that he became aware of in this update. With the actually implemented solution, once again months have gone by without much going forward in the story. After more than five years in development, this is simply way too slow.

 

[MachoGuy]

In 2019 I left a comment about this game being empty and I don't see any reason why it kept in such high regard and got blasted with "YOU DON"T UNDERSTAND THE BEAUTY OF SLOW BURNING!!!"


It 2023, Y'all still slow burning in here?

 

[crabboid]

I look forward to the day when AI is advanced enough that you could have a story like this, and say as an example "I prefer the Sam storyline," and it would focus on the storylines that you choose, creating the story and imagery as it goes. Heck, maybe even be a bit more interactive, with you able to actually converse with the characters through text input. With where we're already at in that department, it doesn't feel like those days are too far off.

 

[bardock8114]

I look forward to the day when AI is advanced enough that you could have a story like this, and say as an example "I prefer the Sam storyline," and it would focus on the storylines that you choose, creating the story and imagery as it goes. Heck, maybe even be a bit more interactive, with you able to actually converse with the characters through text input. With where we're already at in that department, it doesn't feel like those days are too far off.

I think AI is already there to get some basic design and scenes done someone just need to put work into it XD

 

[Pop Doggy]

I look forward to the day when AI is advanced enough that you could have a story like this, and say as an example "I prefer the Sam storyline," and it would focus on the storylines that you choose, creating the story and imagery as it goes. Heck, maybe even be a bit more interactive, with you able to actually converse with the characters through text input. With where we're already at in that department, it doesn't feel like those days are too far off.

plz wait for me, after I finish this one