VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.215f] [Lust & Passion]

[Alley_Cat]

And somehow he's still leading the way, that says it all!

Not always. It's been reported that Ellie has been in the lead numerous times. I think it says a great deal that Dylan just had an update and is losing votes, but the last Ellie event was two years ago, and she's at her best chance at coming first she's ever had.

Personally I don' think the Sam route is realistic. It's more realistic than all the incest routes, that's true, but still not very much realistic. It's rare that a milf with quite some life experience would let a horny and immature teenager seduce and fuck her; such cases exist, it's not impossible, but these are rare.
Women usually are looking for emotional support form their potential partner. They also in general prefer men who are tall and do have a physique, which would enable to protect her. Most women won't openly admit it, but still most of them do secretly like atheltic male bodies (not bodybuilder like, but fit with strong arms). Least but not last, most women prefer men with a decent job and income, who can provide for the family.
Sam got nothing out of this top 3 to offer. And no, Sam being a horny teenager desperately wanting to fuck a hot milf like Sophie and therefore bombing her with compliments, doesn't count as emotional support. Sophie also cannot trust a teenager not to brag about his conquest later on. A severe scandal not only destroying her reputation in the whole town but also her family on top will be inevitable and she should have more than enough life experience to realize that. Sam has proven to be immature more than once, not caring about consequences as many teenagers do, but Sophie doesn't seem to care for whatever strange reason. For me this whole Sam plot feels very much forced.

Sophie is more likely to start an affair with the postman before she'd let a teenager fuck her, who is the neighbor's kid and a schoolmate of her son.
EDIT: I don't favor the possible postman route, I just took it as an example, that this route is more likely than the Sam one, when we're talking about realism in this porn vn.

One of the reasons I don't play either Dylan or Sam routes is that neither can provide Sophia with the lifestyle she's become accustomed to instead of Liam. The only ones I'm aware of that can are Don Morello and Carl, and neither are LIs.

I also have that issue about bragging rights concerning the bonus storyline. There's no conceivable way that Ellie would fuck Dylan and not expect him to go brag to his friends about it. Considering she only dates guys that enhance her reputation, I don't see any potential "beneficial" relationship being in her favour.

This is simply because Sam is still in the minds of the players. They still have the update with Sophia ahead of them. With Dylan, you don't know what exactly is happening. If L&P had done the poll after the evening event, Dylan's poll would skyrocket extremely. That is the pure intention of L&P to do the poll right after Sam's update. Sam is his favorite and the hint from him "Will Dylan stay number one or if someone else takes his place?" says it all. He was hoping for someone else. And now he is trying to figure out how to start the evening event.... he doesn't seem to have a plan.

And yet, Ellie is the one likely to pip Dylan at top spot, and the last event on her route was two years ago.

EDIT: Also, where is that "Will Dylan ..." quote from? I seem to have missed that comment. Last I heard Dylan was his favourite. Whether that's actually true or not, and if he might just be pandering to supporters is an entirely different question

 

[JorellMartis]

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For statistical purposes, here are the updated table and graph that tracks the previous polls too.

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**At the moment**:

• Ava and the apostles are raising among the preferences along with Julia and Marie (not so coincidentally they had multiple or very recent events since 2020)
• Amber is regaining popularity along with Mr Murray (!!) and, obviously, Sam, even though he is not yet at the same level as 2020
• Dylan is still leading but Ellie has basically closed the gap at the second place. They both lost quite a lot of votes wrt 2020, especially Dylan.
• Patricia ( ), Alyssa ( ), Vicky, Emma and the Subway Thugs have consistently lost support as well. Cathy was a new entry in 2021 and lost as well a bit.
• Aiden is still 4th with minimum loss.
• Zac is substantially stable and so are Logan, Christine, Claire, Nathalie (even if she gained a bit) and Liam.
• The old gents after their moment of glory in the v0.130 are back to 2020 levels.
• Janitor Clark and the movers seems to be settled on 2021 values, so has Carl.

Let's see if there are surprises coming, especially in Ellie and Dylan's race for the first position. Too close to call, as John King would say!

you forgot about mr bennette

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

 

[Bishop Robert]

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It's just him/her and the animator, correct?

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

Not always. It's been reported that Ellie has been in the lead numerous times. I think it says a great deal that Dylan just had an update and is losing votes, but the last Ellie event was two years ago, and she's at her best chance at coming first she's ever had.

First of all, each poll that has been conducted always had Dylan and Ellie close by +/- 10 votes. It usually took about two to three weeks before Dylan broke away from the pack, followed by Ellie, and each poll conducted didn't slow down until a month and a half to two months after the poll was initiated. Ellie was ahead of the pack regarding progression in Part I but couldn't overtake Dylan in both polls. This is a marathon, not 100 meter-dash poll.

One of the reasons I don't play either Dylan or Sam routes is that neither can provide Sophia with the lifestyle she's become accustomed to instead of Liam. The only ones I'm aware of that can are Don Morello and Carl, and neither are LIs.

And Ellie can? What can Ellie do for Sophia since now you're talking about lifestyles..... What does she bring to the table besides being female?

I also have that issue about bragging rights concerning the bonus storyline. There's no conceivable way that Ellie would fuck Dylan and not expect him to go brag to his friends about it. Considering she only dates guys that enhance her reputation, I don't see any potential "beneficial" relationship being in her favour.

And yet, Ellie is the one likely to pip Dylan at top spot, and the last event on her route was two years ago.

It would be best to read this story before making off-the-wall comments like this. Bragging rights? They are starting to act like brother and sister with their build-up within their arc. The next event is going to have alcohol, which I'm sure both of them will be drinking and will probably be drunk. So what happens next will probably be alcohol-related, like a drinking game.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

It's just him/her and the animator, correct?

Bibifoc helps him with coding when needed, and someone else helps him proofread his "script." that's all I know.

 

[ashitanojoe]

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Well, that's actually the pro way to do it. When there are others who will work in certain scenes you need to start from there and not in the story order. So, we can guess that this is his method to speed up the things a bit, which was the basic common sense, but still.

 

[Alley_Cat]

First of all, each poll that has been conducted always had Dylan and Ellie close by +/- 10 votes. It usually took about two to three weeks before Dylan broke away from the pack, followed by Ellie, and each poll conducted didn't slow down until a month and a half to two months after the poll was initiated. Ellie was ahead of the pack regarding progression in Part I but couldn't overtake Dylan in both polls. This is a marathon, not 100 meter-dash poll.



And Ellie can? What can Ellie do for Sophia since now you're talking about lifestyles..... What does she bring to the table besides being female?



It would be best to read this story before making off-the-wall comments like this. Bragging rights? They are starting to act like brother and sister with their build-up within their arc. The next event is going to have alcohol, which I'm sure both of them will be drinking and will probably be drunk. So what happens next will probably be alcohol-related, like a drinking game.

Ellie doesn't exclude Liam from being the one "wearing the pants" in the relationship. Precedent has already been set by Carl and Patricia. As long as no-one else has their dick in Patricia's pussy, she can do whatever the hell she wants.

It's already been shown, since Liam has no problems whatsoever in Sophia and Ellie showering together. He even fixed the lock in order to make it easier.

 

[Lennyrabbitz]

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Does this mean that the animations counter should increase independently of the other progress counters?

Also I'll be happy if in those 17 pages of text he doesn't refer to Sophia's breasts as fun bags or melons or whatever else he used in the previous update. It was easily the worst written event by far imo.

 

[Bane71]

Does this mean that the animations counter should increase independently of the other progress counters?

Also I'll be happy if in those 17 pages of text he doesn't refer to Sophia's breasts as fun bags or melons or whatever else he used in the previous update. It was easily the worst written event by far imo.

I agree with you that L&P has overdone the terminology in the last update.
In order for Dylan's evening to be hot and he caught up and even surpassed Sam in some ways, the plot must be written well enough. Unfortunately, I notice more and more flaws in the L&P letter.
As for the plot, at least it seems to me that if Sophia experiences an orgasm, then she should try to hide it from Dylan.
And just like you, I hope that he will write this part better than the previous one.

And judging by the published statement of L&P, the animation creation counter will probably move in parallel with the others.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

Ellie doesn't exclude Liam from being the one "wearing the pants" in the relationship. Precedent has already been set by Carl and Patricia. As long as no-one else has their dick in Patricia's pussy, she can do whatever the hell she wants.

It's already been shown, since Liam has no problems whatsoever in Sophia and Ellie showering together. He even fixed the lock in order to make it easier.

That rule applies to Carl and Patricia and doesn't carry over between Sophia and Liam. So the only thing that Sophia and Liam have right now is a swinging event, which would eventually be Andy's dick inside Sophia, based on their meeting with Cathy and Andy and the end-of-day event from PD 12.

So I don't understand your point here because your statement was, "One of the reasons I don't play either Dylan or Sam routes is that neither can provide Sophia with the lifestyle she's become accustomed to instead of Liam. The only ones I'm aware of that can are Don Morello and Carl, and neither are LIs." So you are pointing out that Dylan and Sam can't provide for her, for example, the house, car, clothes, etc. The only people that can are the other two wealthy individuals. So which brings me back to my point, what can Ellie provide her?????????

He has no problem with them showering together. However, did Liam witness Sophia and Ellie kissing with their tongues, or did he see Sophia teaching her to masturbate in the shower the following morning? The answer is no. We don't know Liam's reaction if he saw Sophia kissing their daughter.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

Does this mean that the animations counter should increase independently of the other progress counters?

Also I'll be happy if in those 17 pages of text he doesn't refer to Sophia's breasts as fun bags or melons or whatever else he used in the previous update. It was easily the worst written event by far imo.

I would say yes, but in his update from last year, the animations were supposed to move concurrently with CS, and they didn't. So I would take that quote with a grain of salt.

I can't guarantee that you won't see fun bags or melons to describe her breast again.

 

[Chucked_Sandwich]

IF L&P is telling the truth, and up to this point, well he's been full of shit.... but lets assume he's turned a corner, I'll say bravo, at least thats one thing done correctly, get the animator going.

Gonna blow up in his face if we get to the end of the update and we're still waiting on the animation though.

 

[Dan5k74]

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For statistical purposes, here are the updated table and graph that tracks the previous polls too.

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**At the moment**:

• Ava and the apostles are raising among the preferences along with Julia and Marie (not so coincidentally they had multiple or very recent events since 2020)
• Amber is regaining popularity along with Mr Murray (!!) and, obviously, Sam, even though he is not yet at the same level as 2020
• Dylan is still leading but Ellie has basically closed the gap at the second place. They both lost quite a lot of votes wrt 2020, especially Dylan.
• Patricia ( ), Alyssa ( ), Vicky, Emma and the Subway Thugs have consistently lost support as well. Cathy was a new entry in 2021 and lost as well a bit.
• Aiden is still 4th with minimum loss.
• Zac is substantially stable and so are Logan, Christine, Claire, Nathalie (even if she gained a bit) and Liam.
• The old gents after their moment of glory in the v0.130 are back to 2020 levels.
• Janitor Clark and the movers seems to be settled on 2021 values, so has Carl.

Let's see if there are surprises coming, especially in Ellie and Dylan's race for the first position. Too close to call, as John King would say!

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I'm not so sure about the second line, but the first one seems like a certainty now.

 

[bayrischman]

Progress Report Ver. 0.185.

5% - 0% - 0%
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totaly ridiculous.

 

[abram1]

Alley_Cat, I like tickling you here and there due to your uncompromising position as a lesbian adherent, but please, stop embarrassing yourself with your unbridled and unbiased position towards other routes. Before making some comments at least play those paths and not just read them.

I simply don't get the reason behind cutting oneself off a massive, more than a half, chunk of story and moaning that there's no content whatsoever. It's a choice-based VN, with multiple storylines. Ellie is a part of PD13. You've decided to exclude her from your story on this particular day. She's on our radars throughout it and will play her role during 0.195. L&P hasn't left her behind or forgotten about one of the most adorable characters. You did.
Here's how she looks like in the course of this PD, in case you don't recall.

Spoiler: A message from Ellie for Alley_Cat's eyes only

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[PaxHadrian17]

Better: is he/she/they real? Or maybe some lame early version of ChatL&P?

Dread Pirate Roberts

Or

The Very Slow, teasing version of Microsoft's Bing Chat AI - the one that is planning on attacking every user here who has complained about the speed of development. We'll know when all our social media starts to show up with Liam banging every member of our household, male, female, four legged friend, yelling 'Who's Your Daddy!"

 

[Alley_Cat]

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I'm not so sure about the second line, but the first one seems like a certainty now.

In that whatever may have originally planned, that Liam may be the only one that ends up fucking Sophia I believe is an inevitability those considering financially supporting need to consider.

Alley_Cat, I like tickling you here and there due to your uncompromising position as a lesbian adherent, but please, stop embarrassing yourself with your unbridled and unbiased position towards other routes. Before making some comments at least play those paths and not just read them.

I simply don't get the reason behind cutting oneself off a massive, more than a half, chunk of story and moaning that there's no content whatsoever. It's a choice-based VN, with multiple storylines. Ellie is a part of PD13. You've decided to exclude her from your story on this particular day. She's on our radars throughout it and will play her role during 0.195. L&P hasn't left her behind or forgotten about one of the most adorable characters. You did.
Here's how she looks like in the course of this PD, in case you don't recall.
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Spoiler: A message from Ellie for Alley_Cat's eyes only

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For the record, I have no problems embarrassing myself. Actually do it IRL all the time. Did it at least twice today while at work.

And, to your point about Ellie appearing on PD13, she only does it on the Dylan route, to the service of Dylan fans. If you can name a single point she's appeared on the GW or Ellie/Patricia route, I'll shut up. Certainly, she's might have appeared on during Sam events to set up the Sam branch, but that just happens to be something I'm not particularly keeping track of, since Sam fans don't seem to care. If a Sam fan picks up on it, maybe then I'll care.

I'll also point out that I've in no way criticised those that don't play the route I enjoy. And those that play the route I don't. I only tend to point out counter-arguments that characters like Aiden are integral to the main story.

 

[PaxHadrian17]

Progress Report Ver. 0.185.

5% - 0% - 0%
0% - 0% - 0%

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I think that there is a typo here. Didn't L&P say he was refining the accuracy of his numbers here? The correct % is actually 0.5%...

 

[Barretto24]

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For statistical purposes, here are the updated table and graph that tracks the previous polls too.

View attachment 2404897

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**At the moment**:

• Ava and the apostles are raising among the preferences along with Julia and Marie (not so coincidentally they had multiple or very recent events since 2020)
• Amber is regaining popularity along with Mr Murray (!!) and, obviously, Sam, even though he is not yet at the same level as 2020
• Dylan is still leading but Ellie has basically closed the gap at the second place. They both lost quite a lot of votes wrt 2020, especially Dylan.
• Patricia ( ), Alyssa ( ), Vicky, Emma and the Subway Thugs have consistently lost support as well. Cathy was a new entry in 2021 and lost as well a bit.
• Aiden is still 4th with minimum loss.
• Zac is substantially stable and so are Logan, Christine, Claire, Nathalie (even if she gained a bit) and Liam.
• The old gents after their moment of glory in the v0.130 are back to 2020 levels.
• Janitor Clark and the movers seems to be settled on 2021 values, so has Carl.

Let's see if there are surprises coming, especially in Ellie and Dylan's race for the first position. Too close to call, as John King would say!

You lot have faaaar too much time on your hands