VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.215f] [Lust & Passion]

[Julius Ash]

Hi all,

after reading last LP post on patreon, i believe that dev now is confused. Too much arguing, too much suggestions , too much criticism. His patreons are abandoning their support and the reason is only one, the storyline is good and cttyally the real problem is not the lack of sexual content but the slowdown of the updates. Nobody wants that the project is dropped down and now is the time to start to really support him.

 

[XaGnard]

Why does anybody think the Janitor will blackmail Sophia? They only showerd once. So?

He's already done it. In fact, every male employee in the school we already know has been forced himself on her in one way or another.

 

[armion82]

Oh yeah you are right. They are alway dangerous.

Let's hope he continue the game.And not with the stupid idea of episodes for some of the cahracters.
But he realy need to lower his expectations.Money won't fall from the sky.That didn't happen march 2018.Now march 2019,won't happen either.
And he must realise that of course he is not getting bigger support not only because of the lack of sex/even with husband on good wife path.Seriously what is the point to be a good wife if you get 1 BJ for 16 months and nothing more?/The way he release the updates with longer and longer period between updates is what will be the thing that will end the game.And no the answer is not to split each playable day on 3 or even 4/

 

[XaGnard]

Let's hope he continue the game.And not with the stupid idea of episodes for some of the cahracters.
But he realy need to lower his expectations.Money won't fall from the sky.That didn't happen march 2018.Now march 2019,won't happen either.
And he must realise that of course he is not getting bigger support not only because of the lack of sex/even with husband on good wife path.Seriously what is the point to be a good wife if you get 1 BJ for 16 months and nothing more?/The way he release the updates with longer and longer period between updates is what will be the thing that will end the game.And no the answer is not to split each playable day on 3 or even 4/

I don't think there are many who have an interest in the good wife path. For me, this is just another distraction from the story that interests me.

Anyway, I hope the author makes some little adjustment to way he tells the story. A little bit more focus on the essential path and a little reduction of the number of side stories is all that is needed.

 

[armion82]

I don't think there are many who have an interest in the good wife path. For me, this is just another distraction from the story that interests me.

Anyway, I hope the author makes some little adjustment to way he tells the story. A little bit more focus on the essential path and a little reduction of the number of side stories is all that is needed.

We just get 2 more side stories-bully arc and second side job.Last update we also get 2 side stories-massuers guys and sauna guys.

 

[Blockout]

Germany is the land of poets and thinkers. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, Friedrich Schiller, Nietzsche, to name but a few. Made in Germany is the epitome of German high-class workmanship. German cars, Mercedes, BMW, Audi, Porsche are premium brands in the automobile industry.

So why not a porngame with a German seal of quality?

I know L&P from different contacts. It´s easy for me, cause we are native speaker. He is extremely perfectionistic. He is never 100% satisfied with the result. He would like to create a perfect game.
Each look, colors, backround, the littlest pixel should be perfect. The storyline itself should be also realistic in the interest of him and of course us to meet the requirerments.
But it doesn´t work for all! Of course. He cannot please everybody! That´s the way it is.

He has also no issues with delegation. As a perfectionist he has simple doubts to think somebody is capable of to help him to create AWAM with his level, wiht his claims. But yes, he should find a solution to cope with somebody to break the cycle.

I have often demanded he should offer a monthly update. Thats his biggest issue. We all know it. That would solve many many problems.

He is also very sensitive regarding himself and critic about his game. I recomended him not to read all of coments here in F95. But i guess he reads though. Unfortunately.

I for one would like he would going further with his game as planned. No splitting or something else. Also if he reach only $3000-5000 per month. Leave him alone. If you wanna fap, so their are plenty games for fast fapping. The game has so many potential! It´s unique! It´s Made in Germany.

Alter... what is this post supposed to mean?

I am German too but... what are you going on about? Don't criticize the Developer because he has a vision like a Poet or Car manufacturer?

Perhaps you've watched a couple too many of those weird car commercials.

All kinds of people. How do you think Janitor or Bennett could fuck Sophia? She has a happy marrige? Right. Janitor, Bennett and Aiden are playing their cards. Do all men do this? No. But someone do. And all this is real life. Depends on how she deals with this. Asking for help or not.

So some do? Okay but why is it every man Sophia encounters?
Don't get me wrong, this is okay in an unrealistic Porn scenario like in a lot of games.

Thing is the developer claims that this game isn't an unrealistic Porn game.

Also most leering after women is done quietly. You look at her ass/tits/lips and that's it. You don't go up to her and start blackmailing her.

I don't think there are many who have an interest in the good wife path. For me, this is just another distraction from the story that interests me.

This will surprise you but not everyone is into little Hobbits.

 

[bsr2]

Hi all,

after reading last LP post on patreon, i believe that dev now is confused. Too much arguing, too much suggestions , too much criticism. His patreons are abandoning their support and the reason is only one, the storyline is good and cttyally the real problem is not the lack of sexual content but the slowdown of the updates. Nobody wants that the project is dropped down and now is the time to start to really support him.

I do think the lack of sexual content is a big factor. Look, I would be ok with waiting 2 months for an update if that update had some action. Yes, I will agree the slow updates is hands down the biggest problem, but the lack of sexual content is a close second.

I have been a supporter of this game since day 1. Its story and the characters are like nothing else out there. I have always said I think the dev is in over his head. And bringing on more people to help, or just turning the game over and letting fans finish it from here would be the best option.

 

[nexer]

So some do? Okay but why is it every man Sophia encounters?
Don't get me wrong, this is okay in an unrealistic Porn scenario like in a lot of games.

Thing is the developer claims that this game isn't an unrealistic Porn game.

Also most leering after women is done quietly. You look at her ass/tits/lips and that's it. You don't go up to her and start blackmailing her.

Yeah, done quietly. Like postman, Liam' boss for now, Carl ... why not. But if any of this had a chance to blackmail her?. would they?.

And don't forget that Aiden is going to take every opportunity. Same with Janitor and Bennett. Bennett look s like a rapist.

And, said you are german, why "TATORT" last so long? cuz of crime.

 

[roro]

I do think the lack of sexual content is a big factor. Look, I would be ok with waiting 2 months for an update if that update had some action. Yes, I will agree the slow updates is hands down the biggest problem, but the lack of sexual content is a close second.

I have been a supporter of this game since day 1. Its story and the characters are like nothing else out there. I have always said I think the dev is in over his head. And bringing on more people to help, or just turning the game over and letting fans finish it from here would be the best option.

No one stops you or other fans from continue this game. It's not patented or password locked...
If you wish the dev stops updating the game then what are you (and all other haters) doing here?!?

 

[goobdoob]

No one stops you or other fans from continue this game. It's not patented or password locked...
If you wish the dev stops updating the game then what are you (and all other haters) doing here?!?

Just expect to get sued for copyright infringement if you make any money off of it.

 

[Nottravis]

There is a lot to like about this game, and heavens knows decent fem protag games are rarer than hens teeth.

I just don't see why in his third point he had to be so rude to his own supporters, players of adult games generally and other developers. He doesn't have a monopoly on quality renders or complex storylines. It seemed a cheap and unnecessary broadside.

Still, I hope he can get it together. This game still has a great deal of potential.

 

[lockerxx]

L&P is like a movie director the studio give him notes and he refuses because he has his vision for it then the movie flop in the box office.years later gain cult status.
is a shame that finally the good part of game is going to start he thinks in quit the game.if the next upgrades have more scenes like the samXsophia pool scene give a try for a until day 10.

 

[armion82]

L&P is like a movie director the studio give him notes and he refuses because he has his vision for it then the movie flop in the box office.years later gain cult status.
is a shame that finally the good part of game is going to start he thinks in quit the game.if the next upgrades have more scenes like the samXsophia pool scene give a try for a until day 10.

Trust me,we don't want cult status,there are BB and Dual Family both abandoned.

 

[roro]

Just expect to get sued for copyright infringement if you make any money off of it.

And if it's abandoned you wouldn't get sued?
Some people just need to grow up. Why ruin this game for those who like it? I understand constructive criticism, but wishing the game to be abandoned? that's just childish imo...

 

[XaGnard]

This will surprise you but not everyone is into little Hobbits.

That's the problem with this game. The author doesn't try to tell a story. He tries to tell as many stories as possible:

• Lesbian LI for MC: Football mom, Cleaning help, Girl trainer at the gym, Massage lady, …
• Guys who blackmail her: Son's teacher, Son's classmate, school janitor, …
• Students with an interest in her: Son, Sons friend, Son's classmate, Two art students, …
• Then we have the two old guys in the nursing home,
• The guy trainer in the gym,
• The guys in the Sauna,
• The neighbor (also with some harassing),
• The Hobos,
• The director of the School (also with some harassing),
• … I'm sure I forgot someone else …
• ah, of course, her husband …

All these are just the stories of the MC. If you look at the supporting actors you can easy double the list. All stories have one thing in common. They all have all just begun.

Sure, not everyone has the same interests, but if there are too many stories, not a single one of them really finds time to be told and we all have lost. This game needs focus. Not on just on one single story, but not on all of them either.

In my opinion, the "good wife" story makes the least sense to continue, because it is just Kind of an anti story. It is the story about what would happen, if everything is boring. The whole thing's just slowing everything else down and really not doing anything usefull.

 

[Blockout]

Yeah, done quietly. Like postman, Liam' boss for now, Carl ... why not. But if any of this had a chance to blackmail her?. would they?.

Liams Boss has a higher chance of blackmailing her than some student at school.

It's simply not realistic.

And, said you are german, why "TATORT" last so long? cuz of crime.

No because they produce new episodes.

That's the problem with this game. The author doesn't try to tell a story. He tries to tell as many stories as possible:

• Lesbian LI for MC: Football mom, Cleaning help, Trainer at the gym, Massage lady, …
• Guys who blackmail her: Son's teacher, Son's classmate, school janitor, …
• Students with an interest in her: Son, Sons friend, Son's classmate, Two art students, …
• Then we have the two old guys in the nursing home,
• The neighbor (also with some harassing),
• … I'm sure I forgot someone else …
• ah, of course, her husband …

All these are just the stories of the MC. If you look at the supporting actors you can easy double the list. All stories have one thing in common. They all have all just begun.

Sure, not everyone has the same interests, but if there are too many stories, not a single one of them really finds time to be told and we all have lost. This game needs focus. Not on just on one single story, but not on all of them either.

In my opinion, the "good wife" story makes the least sense to continue, because it is just Kind of an anti story. It is the story about what would happen, if everything is boring. The whole thing's just slowing everything else down and really not doing anything usefull.

Did you seriously just say that you can't have erotic or sexual moments on a Good wife part?
Do you realise that would mean that no actual relationship unless it is based in cheating, ransom or rape can have erotic and sexual moments?


I wrote this like a year ago but here I go again...

Good Wife Route: Liam is stressed out at work, doesn't cheat and is generally just burned out.
This frustrates Sophia but not enough to cheat on him.
What could possibly happen from this situation?

- she could spice things up on her own, new lingerie, perhaps a small weekend with Liam, having a nice time and sex <- In case you are wondering, this is the norm in real life

- she could have a Bi-curious tendency, now she's doing another woman in front of Liam who the first time just watches, the next time he might join <- Also happens in real life

- after perhaps a threesome with a woman they might be more open about other people, this is where the swinging starts <- The developer lives in Germany, swinging exists here, these clubs are never that far away

That sure as hell doesn't look that boring to me.

Sure she isn't blackmailed, her son isn't trying to fuck her (which is still the most unrealistic theme about this game), the neighbours son isn't trying to seduce her (lmao a minor seducing a late 30s early 40s woman) and not everyone wants to fuck her.
But you want to know what it is? Realistic and a way to make a Good Wife route with erotic and sexual content.

 

[feanor48]

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[Taker Fan]

the neighbours son isn't trying to seduce her (lmao a minor seducing a late 30s early 40s woman)

Well, there has been some movies about that. But Sam is in love with her you can feel that or see that. And in the last update, she feels attracted to him. And she will seduce him. She teased him at the pool and in the morning. Her son was like collateral Damage. It is a little bit like the movie Dreng.

L&P is like a movie director the studio give him notes and he refuses because he has his vision for it then the movie flop in the box office.years later gain cult status.
is a shame that finally the good part of game is going to start he thinks in quit the game.if the next upgrades have more scenes like the samXsophia pool scene give a try for a until day 10.

It is more like an Independent Film.

Let's hope he continue the game.And not with the stupid idea of episodes for some of the cahracters.
But he realy need to lower his expectations.Money won't fall from the sky.That didn't happen march 2018.Now march 2019,won't happen either.
And he must realise that of course he is not getting bigger support not only because of the lack of sex/even with husband on good wife path.Seriously what is the point to be a good wife if you get 1 BJ for 16 months and nothing more?/The way he release the updates with longer and longer period between updates is what will be the thing that will end the game.And no the answer is not to split each playable day on 3 or even 4/

I agree with you!

 

[Angmir]

People dont panic !

I guess the author just is frustrated with people always complaining about anything he does.
He makes no progress towards H-scenes - nothing is happening.
He makes a plot that leads to many future H-scenes - even worse.

I doubt that he will quit working on the game.
He has invested A LOT of his own time to this project allready, so it would be stupid to just let it go.
Making mini-stories instead will lead to nowhere too.

He might say otherwise but the ammount of $$ he is making right now should be reason enough for him to stay, and there is no way that dropping the game will let him make more. Half of his fanbase would leave him right away, and his reputation would be ruined.

He is inteligent guy so he will figure this out.

He certainly wont intimidate anyone into supporting him out of fear that he is quitting. So that was a bit silly move of him.
All he needs to do is be patient and stick to his plan, regardless what people say. That drama was unneccessery.

 

[armion82]

People dont panic !

I guess the author just is frustrated with people always complaining about anything he does.
He makes no progress towards H-scenes - nothing is happening.
He makes a plot that leads to many future H-scenes - even worse.

I doubt that he will quit working on the game.
He has invested A LOT of his own time to this project allready, so it would be stupid to just let it go.
Making mini-stories instead will lead to nowhere too.

He might say otherwise but the ammount of $$ he is making right now should be reason enough for him to stay, and there is no way that dropping the game will let him make more. Half of his fanbase would leave him right away, and his reputation would be ruined.

He is inteligent guy so he will figure this out.

He certainly wont intimidate anyone into supporting him out of fear that he is quitting. So that was a bit silly move of him.
All he needs to do is be patient and stick to his plan, regardless what people say. That drama was unneccessery.

You realise that he don't stick to the plan,right?The plan was to finish the game in 3 and a half-4 years.That won't happen no matter what he said.Last update takes 50 days for 2 big events,1 small and 2 miniatures with 3-4 renders.Next one is 4 big events and no it won't take 35 days like someone was dreaming hereWith so many stories around the updates will start to be more complex-more time to make it.Pretty soon it will take 60 days,then 70 or even more for half day.The answer is not to split the days in 3 or 4 parts.He realy need to think to get some help with renders par example.It's damn obvious he just don't have enough time to work on the game.RL,studies,family etc.We get it.But to insist that nobody is capable to help you?That is too arrogant.
We are worry because we saw plenty of examples when devs abandon their game because they don't get enough money.BTW if he realy do that this will be one of the game with biggest support to be abandoned.Usualy so far the game with around and less than 1000$ get axed.