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roro

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It was written in the walkthrough (PD11, after the biology class)
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(end Dylan's storyline with Sophia implied)

As for Christine, Dylan/Sophia part 2 may not be available if you are on Christine's path, he will probably leave for the party instead of continuing with Sophia and that **probably** will also end Dylan/Sophia as well. Sophia would be used for sex-ed before going to the party.
For Marie we don't have a clue atm though.
Choosing Christine's path should not end Dylan/Sophia. Dylan told his mom he still has time until Christine's party begins.
 

cacacaca01

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A Wife and Mother - Combined Edition v0.185 (Hotfix)

This is a crunched version of A Wife and Mother version 0.185, which includes the complete Part 1. That means you can play the game from the beginning or just import your old save files without any issue. If you don't like the crunched low quality images, you can just put and replace the HQ images from v0.150, 0.160, 0.161, 0.165, 0.170, 0.175, 0.180. 0.185

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can you renew the links, the drive link is overused
 

jstreet

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Choosing Christine's path should not end Dylan/Sophia. Dylan told his mom he still has time until Christine's party begins.
As Dylan there might be a choice if you go to the party or stay with Sophia (well that's what I'm getting from the post about the next update).
 

AlfredBundy4

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It's easy to give a reasonable estimate of 40 years for AWAM to finish, at the current pace of development. It's amazing how many fans blithely, or philosophically accept this, perhaps in the mistaken dream that they're going to live forever. Many fans, (including me), are not exactly ecstatic about it but a question not so often raised is whether L&P himself will want to continue for this long, pension plan included. I'm guessing not. He's in his 30s & the amount of time people spend in one job has been decreasing for years, especially for younger people. Admittedly, the Dev is not subject to the patterns of work prevalent for the last 40-odd years, with total job insecurity but is it realistic to think that AWAM will still be unfinished in the 2050s? Given the indications followers have already seen, does it really look as though the Dev is motivated to carry on creatively?

Although L&P is resistant to most suggestions, especially from this forum, we now have his own proposal that routes & characters will be axed, or cut short. [We know some already have been]. Maybe there'll be a poll, or polls but we've already heard about Emma. I like her, especially as an LI for Dylan but it seems she's not that popular with most fans & so could be an 'easy' early write out. If the move to speed up, heralded in the last few months, has the same result as every other such previous measure, the need to cut back will only become greater.

I learned a long time ago that there will be the minimum communication necessary, regarding who & what is allowed to lapse. It will be interesting, however, to see how the Dev may choose to sort out the mess he created while attempting to tell too many stories, singlehandedly. There have been a number of suggestions that AWAM should focus solely on the incest & for quite a while, (with more to come), this has been the course steered. Given the fanbase, it seems logical to me. Inevitably, as with any cut-backs anywhere, there will be a lot of disappointment. Focussing on incest is categorically NOT what I would wish, (logical or not) but I'm already disappointed with this game, so it could be my turn to think philosophically & look forward to having the cure for AWAM addiction.
This is my biggest interest in this entire story, not the game but the insane development.

Fans do not truly accept that development will take as long as it *will* take. In fact, as new technology releases it often necessitates more development time and this title already has had this happen! Look at the visuals from the first release to the mid-point to now.
Tech tends to release, be very hard and slow to achieve with consumer tech and then slowly get faster. By the time current standards are able to be done faster, the dev will just insist on doing what's new (making dev slower).

I maintain that there is no end at this pace. This is an ATM for the dev and financial backers don't have a true concept of 40 years because they're likely half that age on average.
There will likely be no end unless L&P gets a wakeup call and either hires a team (he won't) or make cuts to the story (he likely won't but will do so before hiring help).

The most depressing thing about it all is that it's a system maintained by guys just wanting to get their next nut. 10yrs, 20yrs or 40yrs, they don't care as long as in 4 months they can cum to some new material. They can see someone "touch the fabric" or fondle her tits without even trying to go further. Etc.

Even sadder is that if the dev were an actual artist, they wouldn't want the project to go so long. They'd get bored (I think he will anyway) and want to try something new. They wouldn't be afraid that they're a one-hit-wonder and want to try their next piece of art. Which, remember, he calls it that! He's the guy claiming that his work is such special set that his porn story about a married mother of two becoming a slut needs to be told over 30-40yrs. That's how special he thinks it is so I'm assuming he thinks of himself as an artist (and I never avoided admitting he does have some talent).
I just don't see how a Renpy-based porn story needs to take 3 or 4 DECADES. That's psycho, especially given that he clearly makes up the story as he goes. There is no grand outline. The goofy dialog and haphazard addition/dropping of story lines proves that he just kinda makes what he wants each release.

The timeline is just something I don't think most people - even those mocking it - fully understand. It's hard for anyone to fully understand 30-40yrs time in one's life, especially if you haven't even lived that long.
 

AlfredBundy4

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As stated before, the story of the development of this VN interests me more than the VN itself. I last posted on the day the most recent update released and everyone here was waiting for it. I finally checked it out and it was pretty on-par, nothing great. Some good but a lot of needless or poorly executed stuff.

The biggest missed opportunity or poorly executed aspect is Sophia telling the story of how she lost her virginity. It only makes sense if she's lying, telling this boy with a hard-on what he wants to hear in the moment.
It would make a lot of sense or saved only if another asks her at some later date and she gives a totally different account or story. Again, just patronizing them in the moment.

Why? Well, the dev has claimed that quality and believability (within the realm of a porn story) is paramount to him.
If so, he has never had sex with a virgin lol. Ever.
No virgin in the history of human sex has ever orgasmed after a 40yo man got her drunk, molested her a bit, stole her away, threw his dick in her mouth and then said "I want your pussy" as he tossed her on the bed and shoved his fat dick in her 17yo, virgin pussy. Never, not once.
Having had a few myself, it's an ordeal. There is a reason most grown men don't want a virgin. You don't necessarily want a filthy slut but sex isn't much more than self-gratification inside another person when she's a virgin. She's timid, in pain and scared. No matter how slow and loving you are and how ready they are it's not like porn fucking AT ALL.
The story she told is like how an incel would describe their imaginings of sex with a virgin.
So...unless she's lying he doesn't care much for realism at all (again, even in the logical insanity of a porn story).

As for the renders, I agree with many that her tits looked a little off this release. They looked older, heavier and a but saggy.
That's not a problem and actually realistic but the problem comes with how much the characters have changed over the course of...20 days or so. In look, they seem to have aged about 5 years MILF-time in an afternoon, lol.
It lends to me long time theory that the development timeline naturally fucks with even the developers image of the characters. He's "been with them" for so long that he can't help but age them up, forgetting that it's only been a few weeks time.

Anyway, after my first real run through since my discovery of this title about 4 years ago, I think the Dylan line is kind of lame. I think it shines with non-family members and that's not just due to my dislike of incest as a principle.
I think the Sam storyline is the best with the blackmailing possibilities being after that. Sam's dad would also be a major player if I were writing it as the football game/cheerleader scene is still the best concept L&P has done in this title. The husband's best friend has long loved Sophia from afar, since college. He can't take it anymore so he drugs her before trying to hook up. She rebuffs him but he confesses and...maybe he keeps trying. Plus it opens up a Dad vs Son thing between them.
Dylan just comes off like a weirdo to me so I'm not sure what the dev is trying to channel there. Yet, it's a major character so keep that going.
Ellie is worth following up on.
The delivery man is solid, too.
I'd cut either the sex-ed thing or the old men at the nursing home. Don't make a choice, outright remove one of them. Honestly, both being tossed would not change much and help dev speed but I know the dev has a thing for reverse young & old. He's gonna keep the sex-ed class for sure.
Frankly, as hot as Sam's mom is I would just refrain from anything that isn't purely Sophia's perspective. Maybe very short additions but no longer or more detailed than the virgin story this update. Development would immediately speed up if everything not from her point of view was told in the speed and detail of the virginity story. Quick, to the point and then done. No full update for side-story bullshit after 7 years of development, lol.

I dunno. It's hard to give any advice when you know it won't ever be listened to.
 
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