- Thread starter CobraSGT
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I don't really care if people are saying good or bad things about this game, and i don't think it is an ideal situation or anything like that. But i think you must be a little simple minded to believe that continuously pointing out the game's flaws will improve the situation . You've been saying the same things for over a year. Did you see any changes? Absolutely NOT , so why are you even talking ? I already know the answer...
Let me tell you what's going to happen because you clearly have no idea.
AWAM will fail because of people like you. Not paying a dime to support but constantly criticizing and thus giving it a bad reputation. A bad reputation that in the long run will affect the dev's patreon numbers and he will end up closing the shop. And making a new game under a new name. And with his render skills and experience he will have zero trouble making even more than AWAM. But for Fans like us, we will be left with an unfinished game. Now if that's what you want, go ahead, be my guest.
Personally i don't even enjoy this game anymore because of the constant negativity that flows around it. And i am certain that it will fail sooner or later. And i will be glad if that happens, at least we can all move on. Sure it is the dev's fault but not only. Guys like you are working for it too.
He doesn't want to hire a team. So what ? When you go to a restaurant, do you ask to see the manager and tells him how to run his business ?
Now you know why i facepalm your posts.
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What you're saying is...
You're not playing this game anymore because of people's negative reviews and you're throwing a facepalm because you don't like someone else's negative reviews.
But you're saying that the reason you do is because you don't care about other people's evaluations.
Is that right?
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You are always illogical.
And I was always attacked by people like you, but I was always logical and always said common sense.
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And most of what I guessed in this update was correct.
You must have been very sick.
Logical or not you guys are still playing and commenting about the game. There are no gray lines either you play it without any complaint or you don't and don't waste your time to comment as well if you don't and do not waste your time to check the comment and updates. It's that simple.
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Yeah,right.
The only reason the game will fail is not enough support or bad comments.
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Currently AWAM has 1,866 patrons. If on average they are supporting LP with 4 euros each it means roughly 7,464. If that’s not enough support then what is it? I have been supporting him too (currently only during release month). When you go to a restaurant and they serve you shitty food you write a hell of a negative review and yes you comment on service, on luck of professionals engaged etc. etc… In the critics there are those bullshitting and there are those making constructive criticism. To me it’s a matter of paying attention. If you listen to people who try to improve your project (constructive criticism) then it will become better and there’s a win-win outcome. If you focus to those bullshitting or you ignore completely every kind of criticism then you are destined to fail…
You are not getting the point. If you go to a restaurant and they serve you bad food. Of course you have every right to write a bad review. But then YOU MOVE ON and look for something else. You don't come back the next day and keep saying the same sh*t do you ?
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That depends. I've found that this place has some rather good Chef's Specials. The chef can make some really tasty things. Just chooses to make bland things like 10 other restaurants next along the street.
Most of my criticisms are more along the lines of milling about the Specials board to see if there are tasty meals being made. Looks like there wont be (at least for me) for about another year.
Me too i want awam to be exactly the way i want it to be. Faster updates, shota free, no incest, more sex scenes. The problem is L&P don't think like i do. Or like you do. And since it is his game. the decision belongs to him. It is highly likely that he made these decisions based on his audience preferences.
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If he based his decisions on audience preferences, I would actually be getting more of the content that I like. Ellie is almost as popular as Dylan, yet only gets about half the number of events. And those events are about half the size.
Even on a day not focused on Dylan like PD14. Ellie gets one and a bit events, Dylan gets three. Last Ellie route event was about two years ago. Next time I actually download an update probably wont be for another year. I just hope it's worth the wait.
And for the most part, I do actually eat at other restaurants. Just updated my list of ones I like this morning. But advertising what those are is frowned upon as per Forum Rules.
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Each of us gets to have an opinion and agree/disagree with others who don't feel as we do - that is all good.
Given that you are making sweeping statements about why AWAM will fail while you have been on F95 with this ID for < 1 year means that you have likely missed Many of the conversations we've had (the greater AWAM community here on F95) for years.
A few points for you to consider:
Many of us were AWAM supporters for a year or years - I certainly was.
Many of us provided feedback to L&P regarding our concerns about how long AWAM was taking to create and suggested ways to help speed development while Not cutting corners on quality.
We've been ignored and had posts deleted while watching L&P regularly move the goal posts for what he will do when certain levels of support are reached.
He has little to no credibility with many of us for the above reasons and others...
If AWAM fails - it is because L&P has decided that that he Will Not Adapt, no matter what happens; if enough of us stop supporting AWAM until he implements real change, then he can either adapt or abandon - the choice is Always in his court.
The reality is that AWAM is an AVN that is taking roughly 2 years RL/Playable Day - meaning that it will not be complete until some time > 2050 - That is ludicrous.
So, is you are looking for this community to be lemmings and just support AWAM blindly for another 30 + years, you will be sadly disappointed.
If you are a supporter of AWAM, then ask L&P how he is going to actually improve speed of development so that AWAM is done before - let's say - 2035.
Then ignore the commentary on this thread and focus just on what actions L&P takes.
Does he make the changes needed to have a reasonable chance to meet the new target completed by year?
Or
Does he give you variations of the same tired excuses that we have all heard before.
Let His actions determine if you continue to support him for the long term or not, and at what level.
This is your money, your time, and your choice - no one here has the right to expect you to stop supporting AWAM because of what We say - make your decision based on L&Ps actions.
Is he walking the talk?
Cheers and GL!
Well, you didn't make any suggestions about the game, or how things could be improved. Obviously you like to keep your ideas to yourself, in case they were to draw criticism. [Hint... they would]. What you did was to repeat, (albeit with an explanation), your negative opinion about me. Do you have any original thoughts on AWAM? Perhaps not, except the one that runs, 'if only nasty negative people would go away...not that AWAM would improve...I just don't like to hear them...it's so pointless.' Are you aware of the "ignore" function? Speaking of negativity in general, perhaps you should know that I've never left any commentator a facepalm, on any thread, even those who unleashed vicious personal attacks, that make your puerile insults pale into insignificance. I've never reported a single comment either. I believe in free speech you see. You might think, 'well bully for you,' but I say that's quite an achievement after 5+ years activity on this thread, waiting for AWAM/L&P to fulfil their potential, while watching the game deteriorate, especially recently. That includes 5+ years of hearing astonishing levels of crud from sycophants, boot-lickers & those simply in denial about the reality of the situation. Yours is a case of, "we musn't talk about it."
I don't need to justify my pirate status to you or any of your fellow-travellers, because this is a "pirate forum" & you call ME simple minded. I was on the verge of becoming a Patron years ago, when RL circumstances intervened & prevented this. When I was next able to subscribe, the rot had set in & you should know that I'd never willingly pay anybody with the little effort & motivation, not forgetting the lying, that L&P has shown, over the last few years. He's demonstrated that he's averse to suggestions & all but impervious, (these days), to criticism from this forum.
I presume that you've heard the well-worn phrase, "there's no such thing as bad publicity." What is generated on this & other threads would, in RL, cost 1,000s of $, £, Euros & Yen, because paid for publicity isn't cheap. AWAM, despite everything, is immensely popular. Comments on this thread, both good & bad, have played no small part in that achievement. There is no way, now or in the future, that this game will fail because of the likes of me. It will fail & indeed, from my POV, it's already failing, because of the choices the author has made.
It's a fact that, in the past, I've not only defended the Dev but have written complimentary mini-reviews & given praise where it was due & I was happy to. I was never shy of answering the critics of particular story developments, whenever I thought the Dev was correct in what he was doing. I certainly didn't start playing in 2018 with any negative opinions. It was, in fact, the reverse, as I thought this was the best VN on the forum. All that has changed & that's down to L&P's choices again....not mine. It's the height of naivety to think that repeating some well-founded criticisms will cause the game to be abandoned. When it is will depend on when the Dev runs out of whatever motivation he has left & will be at a time of his own choosing. You don't give him enough credit for a thick-skin, arrogance or plain common sense. AWAM is a lucrative & steady income stream. Those are 2 things not to be discarded easily & might be risky to try to re-create.
If you had taken the time to understand my posts properly you would have realised that far from wishing for an end of the game, I was proposing either a concentration of incest-driven events to bring about a logical ending, (a development I would detest but which would be logical, given AWAM's current average teen porn direction & might lead to less than 40 years to finish time), OR, the sale of the game, to whoever could afford it at a fair price & was prepared to put in the effort required. It's well-known amongst all shades of AWAM followers that the game is under-performing money-wise, in relation to popularity. That's fine, because it's up to the Dev & money isn't everything. Anyone buying it, however, would have a great chance to become a millionaire, or millionaires, provided they knew how to make the most of AWAM's potential.
L&P would then be free & clear to make a new game, having banked his cash, along with the many valuable lessons learned during the production of AWAM. There would be an enhancement to his reputation, not the bad rep you are so negatively suggesting. I don't see that as a bad thing.
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Amber could be the best choice for Dylan to lose his virginity, she is probably the best option to stop being a virgin
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You mean the same way L&P keeps coming back saying the same shit for several years? You know...hiring a team, speeding up development....blabber blabber blabber...
You think the game is gonna fail because of bad reviews, negativity and whatnot, huh? It surely has nothing to do with a development that'll most likely stretch over the next 40 years give or take. You know what they say; Bad publicity is better than no publicity. And, as you acknowledged in your previous post, this bad publicity isn't just due to critics. L&P himself is a driving factor in all of it.
There's a bunch of successful AVN's with their threads being mostly positive. People discussing scenes, characters, sharing opinions or whatever. AWAM's thread isn't the cesspit it is for no reason. As PaxHadrian17 said, many of us have been supporters of L&P at one point.
Either way, if you don't enjoy the game anymore because of this thread, here's an easy solution; Ignore this thread, subscribe to L&P on Patreon and be happy for the next 40 years. Sound good? Cool.
Yeah, he's catering to his supporters. Even more so for the past 2-3 years imo, as the game seems to be shifting more and more towards the children/incest tropes. Doesn't really help that a single day takes 2+ years of development either.
Holy shit. I a-....a-greed...blurgh..
If you'd excuse me now, I gotta go drink bleach or something.
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