VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.215f] [Lust & Passion]

[satoshi36]

I'm not making more assumptions than you are, and I try to back up my assumptions when I can...

So did you do the math then, you realise that for the next update the beach and casino part l&p only has to change the dialog lines cuz the renders will be the same except where are filthy points to trigger there are gonna be a few different renders, the whole game is like this, only when sophia and liam had the night out followed by the bj scene on good wife was different from filthy path, so when he says 300 renders it's not like he says 300 for filthy and 150 for good adding for a total of 450 renders, nono sir is 300 as a whole...

 

[Julius Ash]

It isn't a war between L&P supporters and rest of the world. Since i started to post here (only 1 month ago) my opinion was that Dev must be supported in order to reach is goals and create a real good game. But since that time things are changed, i saw his patreons number become more high but the Dev effort become more worst. I'm asking...why?

 

[roro]

So did you do the math then, you realise that for the next update the beach and casino part l&p only has to change the dialog lines cuz the renders will be the same except where are filthy points to trigger there are gonna be a few different renders, the whole game is like this, only when sophia and liam had the night out followed by the bj scene on good wife was different from filthy path, so when he says 300 renders it's not like he says 300 for filthy and 150 for good adding for a total of 450 renders, nono sir is 300 as a whole...

You're the first one that made the distinction between good and filthy renders. Of course It'll be around 300 total and I never claimed differently.
All I said was that the number of good wife's exclusive renders will be no more than 1:4 of the actual number of renders.

 

[nexer]

Peace and love.
What we really need is send Liam abroad, kind of business trip, for at least 2 weeks. So with Liam out, with Sam smelling blood and Dylan pressing we have "perfect storm"

 

[armion82]

Peace and love.
What we really need is send Liam abroad, kind of business trip, for at least 2 weeks. So with Liam out, with Sam smelling blood and Dylan pressing we have "perfect storm"

Yeah I'm OK with Liam gone for 2 weeks.But you know what the dev is thinking?He will send Patricia on 2 weeks vacation.
No idea how this can make sense.After all she is the one that do most job to make Sophia less nun.

 

[madbloke]

Peace and love.
What we really need is send Liam abroad, kind of business trip, for at least 2 weeks. So with Liam out, with Sam smelling blood and Dylan pressing we have "perfect storm"

Yeah, I'm with you mostly. But send Dylan away with Liam, he's an annoying little twat. Unless he gets off with sams mum.

 

[DrDougDoesDOS]

Yeah I'm OK with Liam gone for 2 weeks.But you know what the dev is thinking?He will send Patricia on 2 weeks vacation.
No idea how this can make sense.After all she is the one that do most job to make Sophia less nun.

Maybe Patricia will get abducted by the fella's she shot at and go on a special Holiday?

 

[nexer]

Yeah I'm OK with Liam gone for 2 weeks.But you know what the dev is thinking?He will send Patricia on 2 weeks vacation.
No idea how this can make sense.After all she is the one that do most job to make Sophia less nun.

It could be, but that's how he leaves Sophia without any support. It's important.

 

[Julius Ash]

Peace and love.
What we really need is send Liam abroad, kind of business trip, for at least 2 weeks. So with Liam out, with Sam smelling blood and Dylan pressing we have "perfect storm"

ahahahaha

I'm writing my opinion only, and unlike you, I'm not trying to offend anybody. And I'll keep writing my opinion here whenever I feel someone's writing an unfair comment or fake "fact"...

Anyway, it's not a matter of number of renders..we are talking about respect toward is supporting his VN.

 

[armion82]

It could be, but that's how he leaves Sophia without any support. It's important.

No it's dumb.If we are talking for day,2 or 3 it's OK but for that long period of time is just dumb.And will make the possible sex between sisters available maybe in the last 3-4 days of the game,meaning after 4 years at best.

 

[bas]

Apparently it's that time again...

• Please keep the conversation about the game and not each other.
• Anyone is welcome to comment on the game, the development process, what they like/hate/whatever, so long as they are following the forum rules. If you can't be respectful, don't post.
• Please stop reporting people only because they disagree with you (you know who you are). Reports are for when someone has broken the forum rules. If you don't like what someone else has to say, add them to your "Ignore" list. They have just as much right to post here as you do.

 

[satoshi36]

And will make the possible sex between sisters available

Do we even know if this will be at all in the game, i think max thing it will be a treesome with carl and patricia...

 

[armion82]

Do we even know if this will be at all in the game, i think max thing it will be a treesome with carl and patricia...

It will be a criminal not to be in the game.After all we have so many Patricia points.For what we gain them-to play Magic the Gathering?

 

[roro]

ahahahaha



Anyway, it's not a matter of number of renders..we are talking about respect toward is supporting his VN.

My point is that it is mostly a matter of renders.
You can read posts on his patreon page. almost all of them are supportive of him, and those that are not are mostly from non patreons (you can check yourself...).
Yes, he promised a monthly update when the game was young, and he didn't keep his promise.
That's his first game! Everybody makes mistakes, and he's not perfect... But he's keeping he's steady rendering pace which hadn't change significantly from the beginning of the development.
Now, if you want faster updates than he has to drop something:
1. Drop his other job and college studies - He lowered that goal to 6500$ and hadn't reached it yet.
2. Reduce the number of renders per update
3. Reduce his renders quality
4. Reduce "filler" renders - He already reduced some of it (and yet, some of his patrons, not including me, wants him to add more fillers...)

Imo, Most of his patrons don't want solutions 2 and 3, again, you can read it on his patreon page, and you can't blame him he isn't quiting his other job, when straight from the beginning of the development of his game he mentioned his 6500$ goal (If I'm not mistaken it was even more and he lowered it).

And I also would like it to be a monthly release with tons of renders, but I would certainly not like him to lower his standards or to rush things faster.

Do we even know if this will be at all in the game, i think max thing it will be a treesome with carl and patricia...

I remember l&p said there will be sisters incest between Sophia and Patricia (when he explained why Patricia's and Ellie's paths require filthy points and not only lesbian points).

 

[armion82]

My point is that it is mostly a matter of renders.
You can read posts on his patreon page. almost all of them are supportive of him, and those that are not are mostly from non patreons (you can check yourself...).
Yes, he promised a monthly update when the game was young, and he didn't keep his promise.
That's his first game! Everybody makes mistakes, and he's not perfect... But he's keeping he's steady rendering pace which hadn't change significantly from the beginning of the development.
Now, if you want faster updates than he has to drop something:
1. Drop his other job and college studies - He lowered that goal to 6500$ and hadn't reached it yet.
2. Reduce the number of renders per update
3. Reduce his renders quality
4. Reduce "filler" renders - He already reduced some of it (and yet, some of his patrons, not including me, wants him to add more fillers...)

Imo, Most of his patrons don't want solutions 2 and 3, again, you can read it on his patreon page, and you can't blame him he isn't quiting his other job, when straight from the beginning of the development of his game he mentioned his 6500$ goal (If I'm not mistaken it was even more and he lowered it).

And I also would like it to be a monthly release with tons of renders, but I would certainly not like him to lower his standards or to rush things faster.


I remember l&p said there will be sisters incest between Sophia and Patricia (when he explained why Patricia's and Ellie's paths require filthy points and not only lesbian point).

His goal to drop everything is not 6500$.It's 8000$.
He didn't reach it for 1 and half year.He maybe won't reach it ever.
After all there is a limit number of people who can and want to be patrons and most already are supporting other devs that have completed 1 or more games.
The problem is that 1 year ago when he have less time for the game,because of intensive studies,he actualy give us montly updates.Now he barely menage to release 1 whole playable day for under 100 days.And this last day 9 is for sure going for at least 120 days before is done.
He must understand he can't get only positives from this.

 

[roro]

His goal to drop everything is not 6500$.It's 8000$.
He didn't reach it for 1 and half year.He maybe won't reach it ever.
After all there is a limit number of people who can and want to be patrons and most already are supporting other devs that have completed 1 or more games.
The problem is that 1 year ago when he have less time for the game,because of intensive studies,he actualy give us montly updates.Now he barely menage to release 1 whole playable day for under 100 days.And this last day 9 is for sure going for at least 120 days before is done.
He must understand he can't get only positives from this.

You're right, 6500$ for quiting side job and 8000$ for quiting college. He hadn't hide his goals. If he will reach them and the rendering pace stays as it is now, than I'll have to agree with you. But maybe you can find a solution for him, what can he do better? I'm sure you remember most of his patrons wanted him to keep all routes in the last poll...

 

[armion82]

You're right, 6500$ for quiting side job and 8000$ for quiting college. He hadn't hide his goals. If he will reach them and the rendering pace stays as it is now, than I'll have to agree with you. But maybe you can find a solution for him, what can he do better? I'm sure you remember most of his patrons wanted him to keep all routes in the last poll...

He must choose what he realy wants.That's it.Work,studies or this game.One must go away.His choice.
It's simply that he can't have all of them.

 

[nexer]

No it's dumb.If we are talking for day,2 or 3 it's OK but for that long period of time is just dumb.And will make the possible sex between sisters available maybe in the last 3-4 days of the game,meaning after 4 years at best.

Don't forget the only support is Patricia in Aiden's blackmail. Right now, Shopia can't ask her husband for help. She accepted the first assignment. After that, it's gonna be worse. Can't tell anything to Liam. Patricia's her only support. If Patricia leaves for 2 weeks when she comes back Sophia is "cooked", is ready.

 

[armion82]

Don't forget the only support is Patricia in Aiden's blackmail. Right now, Shopia can't ask her husband for help. She accepted the first assignment. After that, it's gonna be worse. Can't tell anything to Liam. Patricia's her only support. If Patricia leaves for 2 weeks when she comes back Sophia is "cooked", is ready.

That will be pretty bad excuse to remove Patricia.I think the real reason is because we are talking about incest.I bet that he will make sure the 3 incest relationships to happen as later as possible.Probably after day 20,even after day 25 for Patricia.
So the incest fans pretty much can skip next 2-3 years.

 

[nexer]

That will be pretty bad excuse to remove Patricia.I think the real reason is because we are talking about incest.I bet that he will make sure the 3 incest relationships to happen as later as possible.Probably after day 20,even after day 25 for Patricia.
So the incest fans pretty much can skip next 2-3 years.

Yeah maybe. With Dylan can start as "educational", but with her sister it's for pleasure. Must be filthy enough for that.