VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.215f] [Lust & Passion]

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mentosa

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GingerSweetGirl said:
I meant to respond to this a long time ago:

  1. Drop the side jobs- They're too much. They occur too infrequently, are too isolated from the rest of the story, and (mostly side job 2) are too controversial. With updates being so infrequent, it's a waste of time to dedicate resources to storylines that don't advance Sophia's relationships with major characters. In the case of side job 1 especially, the gaps between events are so great that there's no connection with the characters or their related kinks.
  2. Bring back Coach Sophia- Coach Sophia was a great idea, and it is suspicious to me that L&P dropped it almost immediately. Coach Sophia would replace the two side jobs. It would give Sophia an added opportunity to interact with a wide variety of characters (both major and supporting) in a different and unique environment. Between games and practices, the Coach Sophia storyline would have regular events and could be a great launching point for different relationships and kinks.
  3. Drop Morello- Sophia's involvement with him should end with her using Morello to end things with Aiden. Going forward he doesn't strike me as necessary for the game to be enjoyable, so don't waste time with him.
  4. More time jumps- I'd let the game's timeline jump around more because I think it would help flow. At the current pacing, the event-based release schedule is too inefficient. Because everyone expects each release to have some sexual content, that now means that each event needs to have something sexy happen. When L&P was releasing full day or 1/3 day updates, you would get events and scenes without sexual content, and that made the story flow better. But now we're getting sexual content in every event because who the hell wants to wait 4 months for an event without something to jill/jack-off to?

    So, if we're going to stick with event-base releases, let the timeline jump around. We don't need to follow Sophia every minute of the day. It's ponderous and unrealistic. Not every minute of every day is going to be interesting or sexy, but the event-based release schedule is forcing that to be the case. You could still keep the 30-playable days, but spread them out over 90-days (or whatever you want). A sexy scene with Dylan on the morning of PD 14, then jump to a sexy scene with Ellie at Lunch on PD 17, and then have a dinner party with Andy and Whatshername on PD 19. This would make more sense narratively than trying to cram all three events into a single day.
  5. Reuse a lot more assets- I'd start to find ways to place events in fewer locations. I don't want to totally eliminate new environments, and L&P has reused some environments, but it's a waste of time to build a new environment for a one-off event. For example, L&P spent a lot of time building the bar for Sam's concert, and I think there's no chance that we ever see it again. That's a bad use of resources. Instead, have Sam play a show at a location that Sophia regularly visits. Treat the game like a regular TV-show with standard sets. When you do need a new environment, either keep it simple or really make sure it's an event worth the resources.
  6. Develop Liam's character more- I know it's popular to hate Liam, but failing to develop his character is a real missed opportunity. The game is asking us to corrupt Sophia, and part of corrupting her is acknowledging the disruption to her life. But Liam is such a empty vessel that it dampens the sense of Sophia's corruption because who cares if she's cheating on Liam, he barely exists in the game.
I think 6 is enough for now.
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There are few fucking hopes of this game - one is the sidejob with the old folks. I do not give a shit about incest or lesbian shit. I want to see Sophia being corrupted into vaginal sex (oral and anal are somewhat fine) with men that can dominate her, reconsider her love for sex and her husband and destroy her mature, strategic, reserved woman status. I want to see a criminal seducing her and I want to see her though process while being seduced. I want to see a gang of young criminals gangbanging her and how she slowly becomes used to more and more extreme shit. I want to see old men being happy fucking this mature, ripe, high class woman before their deaths, so it will give me hope that something like this might happen to me.

So your plan, plotwise, does not work for me. All the technical points like reusing assets more I'm more than fine with.
 
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ancienregimele

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tofhdns said:
I imagined this scenario a few months ago, looking at the published schedule.
(More precisely, I guessed that the developer might have a plan like this, not wish it was like this.)

And the scenario was Patricia, not Sophia.

We'll see it anyway, when Earthlings become Martians in the distant future...

and another one.

Hmm....... If this is the next opportunity...
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I guessed that L&P might have another scene of "Sophia seeing Dylan as a man," as with the hobos in the need to 'strengthen their relationship' ......again & extrapolated from there. I can't see the thugs return as being useful for anything else, unless Patricia organises a horseback man-hunt, while wearing a red jacket & black jockey cap. [It happened as recently as this century, in England but without the guns].

It's time for some radical changes, if this is ever going to end before 2050. My problem with that is that the Dev always makes radical changes I don't like.
 
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I hope that no one, after watching a piece of porn, thinks that it might be possible in real life.

Many women are being insulted in real life.

An older boss gets greedy after hearing a casual greeting from a younger female employee.

A middle-aged man who gained useless courage from a simple customer service by a female mart employee becomes a stalker.

And a woman he sees for the first time on the street is assaulted by a man in heat.


i enjoy watching porn.

But because I separate reality from porn, I can confidently say that I enjoy porn.

And so far no woman, no man has been offended by my words.

Have you ever experienced being perceived as a scary person by someone?

I've had a few experiences where women say they're cute, but men are afraid of me.

never pleasant.

If you want to play out any fantasy, do it consensually and only with your partner.

I want to keep seeing women's smiles.
 
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Not to give him ideas, but wondering if he's gonna expand the kink spectrum even more. Say, on the ranch, Sofia will encounter a young female veterinarian apprentice collecting horse semen and will have typical choices: stay, keep watching, try. Can be even from the goodness of her heart, as girl's hands are tired. That and/or visible outdoor urination. Because why not. Would perfectly fit his m.o. by adding to corruption, keeping the heat, and extending audience, while not progressing with the main story lines.
 
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ancienregimele said:
I guessed that L&P might have another scene of "Sophia seeing Dylan as a man," as with the hobos in the need to 'strengthen their relationship' ......again & extrapolated from there. I can't see the thugs return as being useful for anything else, unless Patricia organises a horseback man-hunt, while wearing a red jacket & black jockey cap. [It happened as recently as this century, in England but without the guns].

It's time for some radical changes, if this is ever going to end before 2050. My problem with that is that the Dev always makes radical changes I don't like.
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I didn't even think about whether, needed or didn't need subway thugs.

The reason I made that inference is because I read in the public schedule that Dylan would be utilizing his martial arts skills, and Patricia would be providing compensation to Dylan.

I've never been even close to this scenario, so I can't deduce if they are needed or not.

And aside from the fact that I like Sam's story, what I've written so far has nothing to do with my tastes.

I just said it for the speed, efficiency and consistency of game development.

The subway thug character is also my favorite story.

But I don't think LP should prolong this story.

He already can't handle this game and he has admitted this too.

He must not extend the story further and he must begin reaping the seeds he has so far sown.
 
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tofhdns said:
I hope that no one, after watching a piece of porn, thinks that it might be possible in real life.

Many women are being insulted in real life.

An older boss gets greedy after hearing a casual greeting from a younger female employee.

A middle-aged man who gained useless courage from a simple customer service by a female mart employee becomes a stalker.

And a woman he sees for the first time on the street is assaulted by a man in heat.


i enjoy watching porn.

But because I separate reality from porn, I can confidently say that I enjoy porn.

And so far no woman, no man has been offended by my words.

Have you ever experienced being perceived as a scary person by someone?

I've had a few experiences where women say they're cute, but men are afraid of me.

never pleasant.

If you want to play out any fantasy, do it consensually and only with your partner.

I want to keep seeing women's smiles.
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KAz87

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mentosa said:
There are few fucking hopes of this game - one is the sidejob with the old folks. I do not give a shit about incest or lesbian shit. I want to see Sophia being corrupted into vaginal sex (oral and anal are somewhat fine) with men that can dominate her, reconsider her love for sex and her husband and destroy her mature, strategic, reserved woman status. I want to see a criminal seducing her and I want to see her though process while being seduced. I want to see a gang of young criminals gangbanging her and how she slowly becomes used to more and more extreme shit. I want to see old men being happy fucking this mature, ripe, high class woman before their deaths, so it will give me hope that something like this might happen to me.

So your plan, plotwise, does not work for me. All the technical points like reusing assets more I'm more than fine with.
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Hope diest last... "cruel"... xDDD
 
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kewlbigdan

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Is it possible LP doesnt know where to go with the event to make it not boring or to not advance the story to fast or his original idea didnt work or he just stopped.

I have lost hope for a July release and am even concerned about an Aug release.
Remember the super long wait for the "must have, cant tell the story without it, completely will change the game" animations?
 
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Coachsophia45H

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GingerSweetGirl said:
I meant to respond to this a long time ago:

  1. Drop the side jobs- They're too much. They occur too infrequently, are too isolated from the rest of the story, and (mostly side job 2) are too controversial. With updates being so infrequent, it's a waste of time to dedicate resources to storylines that don't advance Sophia's relationships with major characters. In the case of side job 1 especially, the gaps between events are so great that there's no connection with the characters or their related kinks.
  2. Bring back Coach Sophia- Coach Sophia was a great idea, and it is suspicious to me that L&P dropped it almost immediately. Coach Sophia would replace the two side jobs. It would give Sophia an added opportunity to interact with a wide variety of characters (both major and supporting) in a different and unique environment. Between games and practices, the Coach Sophia storyline would have regular events and could be a great launching point for different relationships and kinks.
  3. Drop Morello- Sophia's involvement with him should end with her using Morello to end things with Aiden. Going forward he doesn't strike me as necessary for the game to be enjoyable, so don't waste time with him.
  4. More time jumps- I'd let the game's timeline jump around more because I think it would help flow. At the current pacing, the event-based release schedule is too inefficient. Because everyone expects each release to have some sexual content, that now means that each event needs to have something sexy happen. When L&P was releasing full day or 1/3 day updates, you would get events and scenes without sexual content, and that made the story flow better. But now we're getting sexual content in every event because who the hell wants to wait 4 months for an event without something to jill/jack-off to?

    So, if we're going to stick with event-base releases, let the timeline jump around. We don't need to follow Sophia every minute of the day. It's ponderous and unrealistic. Not every minute of every day is going to be interesting or sexy, but the event-based release schedule is forcing that to be the case. You could still keep the 30-playable days, but spread them out over 90-days (or whatever you want). A sexy scene with Dylan on the morning of PD 14, then jump to a sexy scene with Ellie at Lunch on PD 17, and then have a dinner party with Andy and Whatshername on PD 19. This would make more sense narratively than trying to cram all three events into a single day.
  5. Reuse a lot more assets- I'd start to find ways to place events in fewer locations. I don't want to totally eliminate new environments, and L&P has reused some environments, but it's a waste of time to build a new environment for a one-off event. For example, L&P spent a lot of time building the bar for Sam's concert, and I think there's no chance that we ever see it again. That's a bad use of resources. Instead, have Sam play a show at a location that Sophia regularly visits. Treat the game like a regular TV-show with standard sets. When you do need a new environment, either keep it simple or really make sure it's an event worth the resources.
  6. Develop Liam's character more- I know it's popular to hate Liam, but failing to develop his character is a real missed opportunity. The game is asking us to corrupt Sophia, and part of corrupting her is acknowledging the disruption to her life. But Liam is such a empty vessel that it dampens the sense of Sophia's corruption because who cares if she's cheating on Liam, he barely exists in the game.
I think 6 is enough for now.
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Bro Love From Coach Sophia
 
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Coachsophia45H

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mentosa said:
There are few fucking hopes of this game - one is the sidejob with the old folks. I do not give a shit about incest or lesbian shit. I want to see Sophia being corrupted into vaginal sex (oral and anal are somewhat fine) with men that can dominate her, reconsider her love for sex and her husband and destroy her mature, strategic, reserved woman status. I want to see a criminal seducing her and I want to see her though process while being seduced. I want to see a gang of young criminals gangbanging her and how she slowly becomes used to more and more extreme shit. I want to see old men being happy fucking this mature, ripe, high class woman before their deaths, so it will give me hope that something like this might happen to me.

So your plan, plotwise, does not work for me. All the technical points like reusing assets more I'm more than fine with.
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