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I don't pay, I don't demand, I just wait....
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If I was a betting man, I would say 95% it will never get completed.
It is not my problem if someone is so naive and believes in L&P statements. Here I argue the statements that come from people in this forum.
That's practically what I'm saying and why i use the term "real world realitic" to distinguish the requirements that I think make sense for a game, such as a story that is coherent in itself, etc.
It is me who is trying to make it clear that it is stupid to compare incest content in a game with the real world.
WTF?!? I say that you should not expect too much real world realism in a porn game. In the real world, Sophia wouldn't just try out the Sybian (lesbian path), submit to Aiden's tasks (blackmail path), or teach her son to kiss properly (incest path). However, all this makes could make sense in a porn game.
BTW, I would liked to see your views about "above" and "below" reflected by Escher:
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You must realize that for a porn game you have to bend reality a little. As long as something consistent comes out of it, it's a win, or can you really not understand that?
Well, Dylan was a loser. In the meantime he's been to the hairdresser and had two days of martial arts training. He's just a different person now. My goodness, the whole thing is a porn game. I have also written here that it would have done the story good if L&P had stretched the story out over a longer period of in game time.
Ultimately, however, you should never take a porn game too seriously. Dylan is also a smart and at least a little manipulative. In the story, it makes perfect sense that he can find a way to achieve more than he was normally expected to. Again, this is a porn game.
Sometimes it seems to me that for some here realism only means that L&P should write the story as they would like them to be.
I really wonder when you will realise that you are actually demanding real world realism from a porn game. Don't you see how nonsensical all this is?
Again, in a porn game you should not expect too much real world realism. Have you forgotten, for example, the scene with the assault and the subsequent revenge with Patrica? Or what about Sophia who just tries out a sybain, gives kids a handjob, etc.? Why are you starting to wonder about Dylan going to a nightclub with Sophia? My goodness, AWAM is a porn game, the sooner you understand that, the sooner you'll find peace.
Again, your mistake is that you think AWAM has to compete with the real world. That is a completely insane requirement for a porn game. You are behaving like a child who does not realise that the monster in a movie does not have to scare him because it is not real. AWAM is just a game. This is something that you and a few others here should accept at some point.
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I don't necessarily agree with everything you say in general, but I admire your dedication.
If you are interested in my opinion, I will speak out.
Personally, I see a lot of games that are just beginning to be created, only the first releases have been released.
But unlike these games, AWAM has a completely independent first part. The second part has also already progressed far enough.
Therefore, I would recommend you to go through the first part of the game, there are several routes there. And then the second part. Only after that you will understand whether you are interested in the content of the game and whether you will be interested in its continuation.
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You are wrong from the premise of the conversation.
The people who heard LP declared that the soccer field would be made into a diamond shape would evaluate it by looking at whether the soccer field is being made into a diamond shape.
It's absurd that this needs an explanation.
You may be the only one who understands realism as "making it what you want it to be."
And this image you brought may be the result of your unreasonable assertion.
Anything is possible..... but confusing....... Huh?
As I have already said, realism is not a matter of believing or not believing, but what LP declared.
The people who heard LP declared that the soccer field would be made into a diamond shape would evaluate it by looking at whether the soccer field is being made into a diamond shape.
It's absurd that this needs an explanation.
And I didn't compare incest, neither did your initial objection.
And this is your level and why I question whether a conversation is necessary.
You may be the only one who understands realism as "making it what you want it to be."
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Anything is possible..... but confusing....... Huh?
I'll try to explain it to you in another way. When I look at Escher's picture, I see something that at first glance seems realistic in its details, but then conflicts with my knowledge of reality in the real world. Now I don't go and say, "Escher, you've done something wrong here, and I don't like that". Instead, I take what is there and get something out of it. The image needs the combination of realism and real world mismatch to achieve its effect.
AWAM is a porn game. That alone should be enough to explain why it can't be completely realistic. The important thing is to get some details right, which then create added value by breaking reality (e.g. in porn often by exaggeration). AWAM is also a game based on curuption. It made sense to make Sophia seem dismissive at first, and to make Dylan look like a looser in the beginning. In the end, however, these elements must reverse to achieve the best possible effect. So, No matter how you spin it, Sophia will have sex with Dylan at some point. In the game, Dylan will have used his intelligence and a little manipulation to achieve his goals. In reality, he would have failed. We all know that. However, it should be clear to all of us that realism alone has no value in porn. That is why I find your argumentation so nonsensical.
If this explanation does not help you, we should probably end this discussion. You are trying to make something out of AWAM that it never was and never can be. It is a pointless endeavor.
You ask two great questions so:
Is it worth playing? Yes - there is a lot of great content available right now.
You can pursue multiple paths that lead to different sexy encounters - I won't give specifics to avoid spoilers but if you get 'stuck' - the walkthrough is always a good resource.
Will it ever be finished? Highly doubtful.
We are on Playable Day (PD) 13 (the dev has said that there will be 30 PDs) and development has slowed to a crawl - taking more than 2 years to complete a single PD.
This means that the 17 remaining PDs x 2 years/PD = 34 more years of development time at the current pace.
This puts a completed rev of AWAM in our hands in the late 2050's - which many of us believe = never finished.
The dev has promised for years to improve the speed of development, but the proof is in the pudding as they say and development has actually slowed in the last few years.
I think it is worth the download to get an enjoyable AVN but if you are a completionist - you Will be disappointed - just saying.
Cheers!
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I'm speak for the third time. Listen carefully.
Realism is not what I said, LP said!!!!!!!
If you don't like realism, ask LP!!!!!!
Like the image you brought, you're saying it doesn't matter if the stairs are on the ceiling and I'm saying the stairs should be on the floor.
It's really pathetic.
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Guys calm down. Life is beautiful and it surely isn't here on F95. Get out enjoy Summer.
Soy de la opinión de que salir a la discoteca calentará el ambiente, pero no creo que pase nada fuerte allí. Lo normal sería que de camino a casa, en el coche, ya más reservados, si pudiera pasar algo como chuparle las tetas o incluso Dylan se hiciera una paja delante de ella, pero esta vez de frente.
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english amigo
I am of the opinion that going out to the disco will warm the atmosphere, but I don't think anything strong will happen there. The normal thing would be that on the way home, in the car, already more reserved, if something could happen like sucking her tits or even Dylan would jerk off in front of her, but this time from the front.
If you ask two people what reality is, you always get different answers.
There will always only be a certain intersection of what is "real" for these two people and what is not.
So many influencing factors flow into the overall picture of what constitutes reality for a person that an enumeration will always remain incomplete. It starts with the wiring of the neurons in the brain, continues with the social environment, childhood, age, level of education, what we have read, what stories we heard and, and, and....
Our desires, dreams and (sexual) fantasies do not arise from nothing, but have theirs Origins in one's own experienced and lived reality are embedded in it and inseparable from it tied together.
From this point of view, the question of reality in a porn game or an erotic visual novella relevant.
(In the following, I expressly do not refer to their only question here in the forum is "Are we finally getting to see something juicy?".)
I don't know how other people experience reading books, but for me it was always a experience in which I compared the progress of the story with my reality and I asked myself - "How would I act in this situation?".
In my opinion, one can prove quite well that the question of reality plays a role in a VN when one directs the focus of the discussion to the visualization of the story. I think this VN would only be half as successful if L&P doesn't put so much effort into the pictures and the details in these, his pictures would give.
For example, the picture of Sophia putting on make-up in the bathroom is only so erotic to me because it reflects part of my reality (my partner has way more makeup stuff and on the table and in the bathroom with us there is a lot more clutter on the board.). That is, in the visualization is the asking about the proximity to reality in the UN is not a "maybe" for me but a "must be"!
When it comes to the question of the reality of the story or the fetishes, I can only refer to my argument above.
Everyone, really everyone, experiences reality differently and the discussion is therefore about the question of whether the events narrated in the story have some relation to reality legitimately. But she never becomes one lead to a satisfactory result.
Nevertheless, I believe that because, as stated above, our sexual fantasies do not arise in a vacuum, an erotic VN must also be measured against the reality of each individual player. If the story breaks depending entirely on the reader's wealth of experience, he will reject them.
In a previous post I wrote - I'm done with the discussion about reality in this game. This is still the case. I attach importance to this question only to the extent that I ask "How does L&P come in an event from point A to point B". I have found that I am all the more generous with the question of the reality of events, the better my fetishes are served.
So I think this struggle with reality in this game just pisses me off because some of this argument, namely the lack of reality, only use their frustration at their unfulfilled desires and fantasies to give an expression that makes them appear in a better light.
I find the topic is very complex and it is difficult for me to express it in English. I have therefore used a translator so that some of what I meant can remain incomprehensible. Sorry!
There will always only be a certain intersection of what is "real" for these two people and what is not.
So many influencing factors flow into the overall picture of what constitutes reality for a person that an enumeration will always remain incomplete. It starts with the wiring of the neurons in the brain, continues with the social environment, childhood, age, level of education, what we have read, what stories we heard and, and, and....
Our desires, dreams and (sexual) fantasies do not arise from nothing, but have theirs Origins in one's own experienced and lived reality are embedded in it and inseparable from it tied together.
From this point of view, the question of reality in a porn game or an erotic visual novella relevant.
(In the following, I expressly do not refer to their only question here in the forum is "Are we finally getting to see something juicy?".)
I don't know how other people experience reading books, but for me it was always a experience in which I compared the progress of the story with my reality and I asked myself - "How would I act in this situation?".
In my opinion, one can prove quite well that the question of reality plays a role in a VN when one directs the focus of the discussion to the visualization of the story. I think this VN would only be half as successful if L&P doesn't put so much effort into the pictures and the details in these, his pictures would give.
For example, the picture of Sophia putting on make-up in the bathroom is only so erotic to me because it reflects part of my reality (my partner has way more makeup stuff and on the table and in the bathroom with us there is a lot more clutter on the board.). That is, in the visualization is the asking about the proximity to reality in the UN is not a "maybe" for me but a "must be"!
When it comes to the question of the reality of the story or the fetishes, I can only refer to my argument above.
Everyone, really everyone, experiences reality differently and the discussion is therefore about the question of whether the events narrated in the story have some relation to reality legitimately. But she never becomes one lead to a satisfactory result.
Nevertheless, I believe that because, as stated above, our sexual fantasies do not arise in a vacuum, an erotic VN must also be measured against the reality of each individual player. If the story breaks depending entirely on the reader's wealth of experience, he will reject them.
In a previous post I wrote - I'm done with the discussion about reality in this game. This is still the case. I attach importance to this question only to the extent that I ask "How does L&P come in an event from point A to point B". I have found that I am all the more generous with the question of the reality of events, the better my fetishes are served.
So I think this struggle with reality in this game just pisses me off because some of this argument, namely the lack of reality, only use their frustration at their unfulfilled desires and fantasies to give an expression that makes them appear in a better light.
I find the topic is very complex and it is difficult for me to express it in English. I have therefore used a translator so that some of what I meant can remain incomprehensible. Sorry!
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I like it, good thinking.
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