VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.215f] [Lust & Passion]

[AlfredBundy4]

He's either L&P himself, or that. There is no other way.

How can one claim at the same time the dev will never abandon the project for he's too invested, and that cancelling pleads will cause his abandoning the project - that slips any form of human logic.

This kind of "thinking" is exactly the reason why we have what we have now. That being said, there is absolutely no point in any further discussion with this sort.

Pretty much (and he once again cried to mods and got my comment deleted anyway, lol).

That point I made was one last attempt to give support to the few claiming they'd stop giving money in protest. I just want them to realize it's their only hope to get a finished story at all, let alone sooner than 30 years from now.

We agree on that totally (and a lot more).

 

[AlfredBundy4]

This game has been around since 2017 and from what i'v seen, supporters number is stalling. If his numbers drop, he would have two choices :

1) Make updates faster with less money. Which a lot of "very smart and enlightened karens" in here are claming. ohh if we drop support, he is gonna be faster

this dev didn't hire a team with the money he is making right now but he is gonna do it once his income drops drastically ? Suuure why not, pinguins can spit fire too you know


2) He will start looking for another source of income (if it is not the case already) , and the delay between updates will get bigger and bigger ( a familiar situation ) , until he drops the project.

Which one do you think it is the most plausible ??

As for the solution don't ask me for one i don't have it, i am not that "enlightened". And i don't care that much to think about it, i just enjoy awam whenever i can and trolling "smart people"

Missing the point totally on the first part but we agree on most else.
The only way out of the scenario is to change what you can change. It's like being in a bad relationship or a Mexican Standoff (lol). If you can't change the other party, change what you can change.
Leave the bad partner and see if they care at all.
In the standoff, fire your gun or put it down. Screaming more for the other to lower theirs when they clearly won't changes nothing. You gotta do something because the status quo is a bad relationship, a Mexican Standoff or...here...waiting 30 years for your porn story to finish (assuming it isn't abandoned along the way anyway).

The idea of "it guarantees us nothing so why do anything" is straight slave mentality. It's pure and total submission. It's "I'll keep sending my money for 3 decades because I fear he may not make me pay him for 3 decades" like lolwut?! No. Do what you can. Stop playing his story, accept it'll be 30 years to finish or do what you can to help it. That's it.

 

[karleston]

This game has been around since 2017 and from what i'v seen, supporters number is stalling. If his numbers drop, he would have two choices :

1) Make updates faster with less money. Which a lot of "very smart and enlightened karens" in here are claming. ohh if we drop support, he is gonna be faster

this dev didn't hire a team with the money he is making right now but he is gonna do it once his income drops drastically ? Suuure why not, pinguins can spit fire too you know


2) He will start looking for another source of income (if it is not the case already) , and the delay between updates will get bigger and bigger ( a familiar situation ) , until he drops the project.

Which one do you think it is the most plausible ??

As for the solution don't ask me for one i don't have it, i am not that "enlightened". And i don't care that much to think about it, i just enjoy awam whenever i can and trolling "smart people"

Couldn't say that better, except maybe for the solution which is quite simple, IF YOU DON'T like the current situation, YOU CAN MOVE ON. And that's it. Without DRAMA, that's how real men act.

But yes i agree with you it is foolish to think that by dropping the support he will work faster. AND I am not saying you should keep supporting him neither, i don't feel entitled to tell people what they should do or not with their money.

 

[laskar26]

I think you're missing the bigger picture here. L&P doesn't need a team to work faster. The development of AWAM is getting slower EVERY single year, that is a fact. And so the point some people are making is that if L&P's support drops, he might start working more again to gain the lost and/or new subscribers back.

But as you said, the numbers are stalling, meaning neither do they increase or decrease really, and so he can comfortably release a single PD every 2 years while working less and eventually become a millionaire with minimal effort. If you don't believe it, check the several readily available statistics for the amount of content released on a yearly basis, render/day counts and so on.

That being said, L&P's support dropping wouldn't guarantee anything. He could abandon it or work faster. He could drop the game and start something entirely new, who knows. But as I said, the most comfortable way for him right now is to put in the absolute minimum effort possible without losing or gaining support as he makes quite a bit of money the way it is now. Question is how much slower he can get before people actually start dropping like flies. He's pushing that limit every single year again and again by getting slower. This year so far is an absolute joke in terms of released content.

I don't think i am, he will never go back to the pace he had before, because if he slowed down it means that it was not sustainable for him. His only option is to hire a team. And with less money, i am afraid it is not gonna happen, that's at least, my opinion.

Missing the point totally on the first part but we agree on most else.
The only way out of the scenario is to change what you can change. It's like being in a bad relationship or a Mexican Standoff (lol). If you can't change the other party, change what you can change.
Leave the bad partner and see if they care at all.
In the standoff, fire your gun or put it down. Screaming more for the other to lower theirs when they clearly won't changes nothing. You gotta do something because the status quo is a bad relationship, a Mexican Standoff or...here...waiting 30 years for your porn story to finish (assuming it isn't abandoned along the way anyway).

The idea of "it guarantees us nothing so why do anything" is straight slave mentality. It's pure and total submission. It's "I'll keep sending my money for 3 decades because I fear he may not make me pay him for 3 decades" like lolwut?! No. Do what you can. Stop playing his story, accept it'll be 30 years to finish or do what you can to help it. That's it.

Ok sorry Django, i am just a stephen after all.

Couldn't say that better, except maybe for the solution which is quite simple, IF YOU DON'T like the current situation, YOU CAN MOVE ON. And that's it. Without DRAMA, that's how real men act.

But yes i agree with you it is foolish to think that by dropping the support he will work faster. AND I am not saying you should keep supporting him neither, i don't feel entitled to tell people what they should do or not with their money.

If you don't like telling to people what they should do with their money, you should maybe also avoid telling them how they should act in public, just sayin..

 

[XaGnard]

This game has been around since 2017 and from what i'v seen, supporters number is stalling. If his numbers drop, he would have two choices :

1) Make updates faster with less money. Which a lot of "very smart and enlightened karens" in here are claming. ohh if we drop support, he is gonna be faster

this dev didn't hire a team with the money he is making right now but he is gonna do it once his income drops drastically ? Suuure why not, pinguins can spit fire too you know


2) He will start looking for another source of income (if it is not the case already) , and the delay between updates will get bigger and bigger ( a familiar situation ) , until he drops the project.

Which one do you think it is the most plausible ??

As for the solution don't ask me for one i don't have it, i am not that "enlightened". And i don't care that much to think about it, i just enjoy awam whenever i can and trolling "smart people"

It is a pity that you undermine the seriousness of your contribution with insults. Especially when you can't even offer a concrete solution.

Never mind, what less money would definitely achieve is that L&P really has to make a decision. Either he tries to bring the project forward again in a serious way, or he drops it (like many other developers here). But anyone who really thinks they should just keep on paying, even though less and less is being delivered, is making a big mistake in my opinion. Then it would be better to write off AWAM and spend the money elsewhere. At least that's what I'm doing for some time now. A one-person project that would mathematically take decades to complete is simply ridiculous.

 

[palmtrees89]

because if he slowed down it means that it was not sustainable for him.

Except after 6 years of development, L&P's statements and claims paint a very much different picture of what is really going on. The amount of times he's been caught straight up lying and the non-stop contradicting statements makes me tend to believe the reasons are more about what I said in my previous post. But everyone is entitled to their opinion. Fair enough.

 

[Bishop Robert]

After reading some comments here and using my knowledge on L&P I think I've come on to something.

I'll condense it to a spoiler.

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[LSC82]

That being said, L&P's support dropping wouldn't guarantee anything. He could abandon it or work faster. He could drop the game and start something entirely new, who knows. But as I said, the most comfortable way for him right now is to put in the absolute minimum effort possible without losing or gaining support as he makes quite a bit of money the way it is now. Question is how much slower he can get before people actually start dropping like flies. He's pushing that limit every single year again and again by getting slower. This year so far is an absolute joke in terms of released content.

This is very true, it's uncertain what would happen if money started to dry up, he might try to put his best foot forward in an attempt to bring people back or give up entirely, nobody knows...
The only thing certain is that the current situation is not good.

 

[McZoy]

A small chance is better than no chance

Unfortunately hope is the worst advisor.

 

[菊花献给党]

Will accelerating production speed increase paid users for authors?

 

[karleston]

Will accelerating production speed increase paid users for authors?

That's a good question, i don't think it will, AWAM is a niche, not really a game designed to be very popular.

 

[Radoslaw Wolf]

After reading some comments here and using my knowledge on L&P I think I've come on to something.

I'll condense it to a spoiler.

Spoiler

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Thy Excellency's annointed words are infallible... Praise the Lord, thee, o'little faith - the Sacred Order of Fallen Sophia.. Ashes to ashes...

 

[Radoslaw Wolf]

That's a good question, i don't think it will, AWAM is a niche, not really a game designed to be very popular.

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[McZoy]

This game has been around since 2017 and from what i'v seen, supporters number is stalling. If his numbers drop, he would have two choices :

1) Make updates faster with less money. Which a lot of "very smart and enlightened karens" in here are claming. ohh if we drop support, he is gonna be faster

this dev didn't hire a team with the money he is making right now but he is gonna do it once his income drops drastically ? Suuure why not, pinguins can spit fire too you know


2) He will start looking for another source of income (if it is not the case already) , and the delay between updates will get bigger and bigger ( a familiar situation ) , until he drops the project.

Which one do you think it is the most plausible ??

As for the solution don't ask me for one i don't have it, i am not that "enlightened". And i don't care that much to think about it, i just enjoy awam whenever i can and trolling "smart people"

In life we should never accept extortionate dilemmas.

 

[SuperPerv96]

I think you're missing the bigger picture here. L&P doesn't need a team to work faster. The development of AWAM is getting slower EVERY single year, that is a fact. And so the point some people are making is that if L&P's support drops, he might start working more again to gain the lost and/or new subscribers back.

But as you said, the numbers are stalling, meaning neither do they increase or decrease really, and so he can comfortably release a single PD every 2 years while working less and eventually become a millionaire with minimal effort. If you don't believe it, check the several readily available statistics for the amount of content released on a yearly basis, render/day counts and so on.

That being said, L&P's support dropping wouldn't guarantee anything. He could abandon it or work faster. He could drop the game and start something entirely new, who knows. But as I said, the most comfortable way for him right now is to put in the absolute minimum effort possible without losing or gaining support as he makes quite a bit of money the way it is now. Question is how much slower he can get before people actually start dropping like flies. He's pushing that limit every single year again and again by getting slower. This year so far is an absolute joke in terms of released content.

The thing is that its like a frog in a pot of boiling water, LP has been slowing the development of the game gradually so we become used to it, so we say its normal, thats LP, so even when the development speed reaches an update every 4 or 6 months the patrons will accepted it and say normal and remain in the boiling water

 

[tofhdns]

Will accelerating production speed increase paid users for authors?

When people buy lottery tickets, everyone wins, when people own their own business, everyone succeeds, when people become office workers, everyone becomes a CEO?

If he speeds up his work, at least one of the reasons he's being criticized will be gone.

Sadly, not everyone succeeds just because everyone works hard.

However, if the restaurant is kept clean, customers will like it, if the food tastes good, customers will like it, if the owner of the restaurant is kind, customers will like it, and if the interior is good, customers will like it.

And if he does this, the restaurant will be more likely to have more customers.

 

[tofhdns]

The thing is that its like a frog in a pot of boiling water, LP has been slowing the development of the game gradually so we become used to it, so we say its normal, thats LP, so even when the development speed reaches an update every 4 or 6 months the patrons will accepted it and say normal and remain in the boiling water

 

[菊花献给党]

When people buy lottery tickets, everyone wins, when people own their own business, everyone succeeds, when people become office workers, everyone becomes a CEO?

If he speeds up his work, at least one of the reasons he's being criticized will be gone.

Sadly, not everyone succeeds just because everyone works hard.

However, if the restaurant is kept clean, customers will like it, if the food tastes good, customers will like it, if the owner of the restaurant is kind, customers will like it, and if the interior is good, customers will like it.

And if he does this, the restaurant will be more likely to have more customers.

Many customers not only refuse to consume, but also demand that the boss increase investment

 

[菊花献给党]

That's a good question, i don't think it will, AWAM is a niche, not really a game designed to be very popular.

So, if the author invests in creating a team to accelerate progress and the revenue is no different from before, why would the author do so

 

[Rajesh Ram]

Author already has more than enough money to make the process Fast ,
While hundreds of Fan Made AWAM already came But L&P still stuck in Introduction Part since 6 years