VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.215f] [Lust & Passion]

[XaGnard]

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How can he not see him?

The whole thing becomes even a bit worse when you consider the refraction of light from air to water. BUT, what's the point of taking every bit apart like that, when the whole story is just fiction anyway?

AWAM is a porn game. At the current point in the story, Liam just didn't see it. That is the story. Maybe, later, it turns out to be a little different as kind of a twist in the story, but now, it's not the real world physics that's decisive, it's the story. Again, AWAM is a porn game.

 

[Anna2021]

just for fun! Someone is ready to jump over the wall...

 

[tofhdns]

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How can he not see him?

This is the limit and level of LP's imagination.

This developer would have believed that it would be invisible, or that people would believe it.

 

[Paco Loco]

This is the limit and level of LP's imagination.

This developer would have believed that it would be invisible, or that people would believe it.

Remember the mantra:

- "It's all about realism"...



- O yea, that looks so fuckin' real as fuck

 

[tofhdns]

The whole thing becomes even a bit worse when you consider the refraction of light from air to water. BUT, what's the point of taking every bit apart like that, when the whole story is just fiction anyway?

AWAM is a porn game. At the current point in the story, Liam just didn't see it. That is the story. Maybe, later, it turns out to be a little different as kind of a twist in the story, but now, it's not the real world physics that's decisive, it's the story. Again, AWAM is a porn game.

A game doesn't have to be trash just because it's a porn game.

I sometimes see someone saying "this game is the best in every way" and at the same time saying "this game is porn, don't ask for quality or detail".

I sometimes get confused whether they are referring to this game as 'low porn' or 'a top quality game that no one should criticize'.

 

[armion82]

The funny thing is, apart from the events with Dylan, in all the other storylines of the game, sophia has wet her pussy multiple times with all the other characters and therefore,( Sam,aiden,ellie,Natalie, adien"s ugly gangs, 3 shota kids, tyler, zack, larry, julia and patricia...ext). sophia is very excited. And she thinks all this is exciting for me. but Sophia never once wet her pussy to Dylan's worst and inexperience touches.

I think Sophia must takes sex-ed classes to frodo Dylan from top to bottom. And Sophia wants to teach him every little thing from the beginning without getting any excited with him..

Are you sure you don't need glasses?
Just from last update.

 

[Rajesh Ram]

L&P is just milking people,
More Waiting = More Money from Patrons.

Even if he finished development he will make people wait with all the development status % which will either be stuck or will increase extremely slowly,

And he is one of the biggest liar , he will spend more time writing excuses than writing script.

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

L&P is just milking people,
More Waiting = More Money from Patrons.

Even if he finished development he will make people wait with all the development status % which will either be stuck or will increase extremely slowly,

And he is one of the biggest liar , he will spend more time writing excuses than writing script.

 

[XaGnard]

A game doesn't have to be trash just because it's a porn game.

I sometimes see someone saying "this game is the best in every way" and at the same time saying "this game is porn, don't ask for quality or detail".

I sometimes get confused whether they are referring to this game as 'low porn' or 'a top quality game that no one should criticize'.

I don't know what some people here may have said, but I think we should all be aware that L&P is also just a human being. There is simply no way that he will not make mistakes. Nevertheless, AWAM is much better in quality compared to what a large part of other developers deliver here. At the end of the day, a rating needs to be based on this comparison, and of course a porn game is in a different position than a AAA game with high budget and a lot of people working on it. Of course, L&P could have found a better angle for this scene where Liam really wouldn't have been able to see Sam, but is that really crucial? I think, no. It's more important that this game is finished at some point than to delay the development even further just to find that correct angle.

Furthermore, I think there is a lot to criticize about L&P or AWAM, but especially the comparisons with the real world are just ridiculous, especially in a porn game. This game is based on a fictional story and has its appeal exactly in deviating from the normal. It's the mix of the unrealistic (like fun incest, etc.) in a realistic setting that makes it so appealing. I think, the point is that this event is well written (for a porn game) and it was fun to play. If someone here expects more realism, then the problem lies with him and not with AWAM. It is an exaggerated expectation that is in complete contradiction to what the goal is and should be for a porn game.

 

[wzelisen]

I don't know what some people here may have said, but I think we should all be aware that L&P is also just a human being. There is simply no way that he will not make mistakes. Nevertheless, AWAM is much better in quality compared to what a large part of other developers deliver here. At the end of the day, a rating needs to be based on this comparison, and of course a porn game is in a different position than a AAA game with high budget and a lot of people working on it. Of course, L&P could have found a better angle for this scene where Liam really wouldn't have been able to see Sam, but is that really crucial? I think, no. It's more important that this game is finished at some point than to delay the development even further just to find that correct angle.

Furthermore, I think there is a lot to criticize about L&P or AWAM, but especially the comparisons with the real world are just ridiculous, especially in a porn game. This game is based on a fictional story and has its appeal exactly in deviating from the normal. It's the mix of the unrealistic (like fun incest, etc.) in a realistic setting that makes it so appealing. I think, the point is that this event is well written (for a porn game) and it was fun to play. If someone here expects more realism, then the problem lies with him and not with AWAM. It is an exaggerated expectation that is in complete contradiction to what the goal is and should be for a porn game.

Disguised replacement of concept
I recommend that sponsors buy memberships on the day of release. Don't renew automatically. 1. Make sure your wallet is respected. 2. You can continue to support L&P's game development. This long development process needs to be looked at scientifically and rationally , I believe this is the best thing for both partie

 

[XaGnard]

Disguised replacement of concept
I recommend that sponsors buy memberships on the day of release. Don't renew automatically. 1. Make sure your wallet is respected. 2. You can continue to support L&P's game development. This long development process needs to be looked at scientifically and rationally , I believe this is the best thing for both partie

I would go even further, and not give L&P any more money until he has a clear plan (with clearly defined milestones) of how he wants to finish the game in a realistic time frame.

 

[Woodalicca]

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let's break the scene down...
1. she's pushing him, not pulling
2. the hot tub light's are on and at his angle, he can clearly see the kid in the hot tub. maybe he has night blindness
3. this position only works if Sofia has a penis
4. what the hell is up with that kid's left arm

Anyone else find a scene we can make fun of or pick apart... maybe we should start a thread for it, to pass the time

Don't be so harsh on him. L&P got an unbeatable reason to explain this after all.

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[Bibifoc]

Say you decide to upgrade your subscription on the 15th of the month from 18 to 36 euros. For L&P’s channel you will be charged the difference for the rest of the month (i.e. 18 euros till 31st) and full charge for the coming month (i.e. 36 euros from the 1st of the month). If you upgrade your subscription on 31st August and forget to stop the automatic recharge then you will pay:
- on 31st the difference for the upgrade
- on 1st full charge for the next month

That’s why I’m afraid he will push it till the 1st so that he can get September’s charge from those who will upgrade on 31st and won’t cancel the automatic renewal…

Except if something changed very recently, Patreon doesn't work like this. You always pay full charge. There is no difference or proportion thing.

Edit: In fact, I'm wrong on the upgrade membership part. After checking my email, it seems I paid the difference last time I did it. So you were totally right in your post

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

I don't know what some people here may have said, but I think we should all be aware that L&P is also just a human being. There is simply no way that he will not make mistakes. Nevertheless, AWAM is much better in quality compared to what a large part of other developers deliver here. At the end of the day, a rating needs to be based on this comparison, and of course a porn game is in a different position than a AAA game with high budget and a lot of people working on it. Of course, L&P could have found a better angle for this scene where Liam really wouldn't have been able to see Sam, but is that really crucial? I think, no. It's more important that this game is finished at some point than to delay the development even further just to find that correct angle.

Furthermore, I think there is a lot to criticize about L&P or AWAM, but especially the comparisons with the real world are just ridiculous, especially in a porn game. This game is based on a fictional story and has its appeal exactly in deviating from the normal. It's the mix of the unrealistic (like fun incest, etc.) in a realistic setting that makes it so appealing. I think, the point is that this event is well written (for a porn game) and it was fun to play. If someone here expects more realism, then the problem lies with him and not with AWAM. It is an exaggerated expectation that is in complete contradiction to what the goal is and should be for a porn game.

meanwhile it is the same L&P who first defined the realistic game; then nobody questions that he makes mistakes, the problem is that: if you point it out to him, he insults you

 

[samsophia&love]

just for fun! Someone is ready to jump over the wall...

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you are wrong, he is already in the jacuzzi... hiding from Sophia

 

[Lord_Xanatos]

Progress Report Ver. 0.190.

100% - 100% - 100%
25% - 0%

 

[tofhdns]

I don't know what some people here may have said, but I think we should all be aware that L&P is also just a human being. There is simply no way that he will not make mistakes. Nevertheless, AWAM is much better in quality compared to what a large part of other developers deliver here. At the end of the day, a rating needs to be based on this comparison, and of course a porn game is in a different position than a AAA game with high budget and a lot of people working on it. Of course, L&P could have found a better angle for this scene where Liam really wouldn't have been able to see Sam, but is that really crucial? I think, no. It's more important that this game is finished at some point than to delay the development even further just to find that correct angle.

Furthermore, I think there is a lot to criticize about L&P or AWAM, but especially the comparisons with the real world are just ridiculous, especially in a porn game. This game is based on a fictional story and has its appeal exactly in deviating from the normal. It's the mix of the unrealistic (like fun incest, etc.) in a realistic setting that makes it so appealing. I think, the point is that this event is well written (for a porn game) and it was fun to play. If someone here expects more realism, then the problem lies with him and not with AWAM. It is an exaggerated expectation that is in complete contradiction to what the goal is and should be for a porn game.

Developers don't have to worry about angles.
It doesn't make sense that Liam doesn't spot Sam in either angle.

Of course, any football player makes mistakes.
But I'm saying that this is not the developer's mistake, it's the developer's level.

Also, I'm talking about the double standards of some fanboys.

Don't you criticize while watching football?
Don't you criticize while watching porn?

Whether it was a mistake or skill (a lack of imagination), you will criticize and compare.
various people and situations, food, employees, friends, professional athletes, and doctors etc.

I'm talking about that.



Let's add.

It wouldn't have been a problem if the developer hadn't created such a stupid situation.
Rather than putting Sam and Dylan next to Liam and asking people to accept that "Liam didn't see", it was better not to have Liam in the first place.

is it difficult?

 

[hu lover]

Developers don't have to worry about angles.
It doesn't make sense that Liam doesn't spot Sam in either angle.

Of course, any football player makes mistakes.
But I'm saying that this is not the developer's mistake, it's the developer's level.

Also, I'm talking about the double standards of some fanboys.

Don't you criticize while watching football?
Don't you criticize while watching porn?

Whether it was a mistake or skill (a lack of imagination), you will criticize, compare.
various people and situations, food, employees, friends, professional athletes, and doctors etc.

I'm talking about that.



Let's add...

It wouldn't have been a problem if the developer hadn't created such a stupid situation.
Rather than putting Sam and Dylan next to Liam and asking people to accept that "Liam didn't see", it was better not to have Liam in the first place.

is it difficult?

Very descriptive.

 

[XaGnard]

meanwhile it is the same L&P who first defined the realistic game; then nobody questions that he makes mistakes, the problem is that: if you point it out to him, he insults you

I think, it's silly to believe in the possibility of a realistic porn game. This simply cannot exist, since the goal of a porn game is precisely the partial deviation from reality. It therefore makes zero sense to accuse L&P of alleged non-compliance with a statement. Particularly since I think that his statement referred to realistic graphics and the daily schedule.

I've said here many times that I don't think much of L&P, and one reason for that is his mainly poor project management and unfair treatment of fans of his game. I think that he, and some other developers here, exploited the pateron system. But that doesn't mean that I'm badmouthing the game itself just to spite him.

AWAM, although certainly not perfect, stands out positively from the mass of porn games here, and the qualities it has should be fairly emphasized. The exaggerated focus on realism, which would also not make sense for any other game here, I simply can not understand. It's just not a smart criticism considering that if this game is ever going to finish telling its stories, it needs to go much further.

 

[tofhdns]

I think this image can easily explain it.

This developer is in pain, adding something that shouldn't have been added.