VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.215f] [Lust & Passion]

[Alley_Cat]

Well that's the thing, things are beginning to happen because they have to start happening. We're kinda in the same place that Game of Thrones was in during season 6, there were a lot of characters that had to get into position for the final season or two, and that required some BIG jumps. Sam, Dylan, and Sophia have already made big jumps in the last 2 PDs, and now it's Ellie's turn. It's especially true because Ellie doesn't get as many scenes as Sam and Dylan, so her character is going to take bigger leaps in each scene so that she keeps pace with Dylan and Sophia.

By my count Ellie has twice as many scenes as Sam (21 to 10). Her scenes aren't as big, but when Ellie can get Sophia naked in 40 renders, they don't need to be.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

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Nope... too vanilla

Actually, what you suggest doesn't support the facts. Its only recently Dylan and Ellie are getting along. If you look back and are keeping score, things are about even between acceptance and hostility between the two. From the start with the car ride to the new house, things were rocky between them. An unlocked door led to a Blue Pill poisoning. Balancing that you have helping fix a computer hack, standing up to old ex-boyfriends' group of friends and a nice chat at the swing and maybe the cigarette incident.

Then there is Ellie herself and her attitudes toward boys. Maybe Ellie isn't really into the bad boys, but certainly has a thing for the popular boys and yes, she like them big and attractive. So Ellie just isn't going to fall for Dylan.

You are going to have to have something seriously dramatic happen between the two to get a true change of heart. Perhaps at a party Ellie suffers a disaster of the first order and Dylan comes to the rescue. Maybe the ex-boyfriend shows up at the party or Ellie and the ex-boyfriend meet some where... Or perhaps Ellie does get drunk, and some "guy" tries to take advantage of her and Ellie resists, but Dylan comes to the rescue.

It's one of the plot problems this game has. The characters are just not in a position to move to the next level of a relationship that seems plausible. If the Developer is going for an Ellie/Dylan route, it's pretty deep in the story to start it now... at least without a major event to shake up the current status quo.

What I said does support the facts. If you read the other arcs, the one thing that has happened to lower the guard is alcohol. This has been a recurring theme, and at no point did Sophia find Dylan sexually attracted to other PDs or act on it until event 2, when she was buzzing from the alcohol she consumed during the club, which Ellie seems to be lined up for the same scenario. Also, if you read the text, this isn't supposed to be a "house party" at Christine. It's more of a slumber party because it is supposed to be a girls' night, and Dylan can only come because he said he could bring the alcohol, which is why I can see Ellie's and Christine's friends there. It will probably be 4 or 5 girls and Dylan.

Christine and Ellie's new hairstyles. Their two hot friends from college who will still be at the party.

Spoiler: Girls' Night.

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As you can see, it's a guy around from Christine's comment. If he was going to drop a hint that it was going to be more than one, he should have used quotes around "a guy" in that sentence.

So I'm quite confused about where you're coming up with a house party or party with other people that will cause a "Sophia Jogging Park scene" with Ellie. The only thing that Dylan said to Ellie at the end of the restaurant was that he has a plan to get back at Logan and for Ellie to text Logan's email, and he might tell Ellie about the plan later that evening.

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

By my count Ellie has twice as many scenes as Sam (21 to 10). Her scenes aren't as big, but when Ellie can get Sophia naked in 40 renders, they don't need to be.

Maybe the better measurement is recent scenes, because it feels like the game has shifted in favor of Sam. Ellie hasn't had a significant scene in literally years.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

Maybe the better measurement is recent scenes, because it feels like the game has shifted in favor of Sam. Ellie hasn't had a significant scene in literally years.

That's because of how rapidly Ellie progressed at the start of the story and all the males started to fall behind, so L&P had to play catch-up with the male cast members due to his comment that Husband > Females > Males storytelling order.

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

That's because of how rapidly Ellie progressed at the start of the story and all the males started to fall behind, so L&P had to play catch-up with the male cast members due to his comment that Husband > Females > Males storytelling order.

Right, and now she needs to catch back up. Based on recent events, it just feels like Sam is going to have more scenes than Ellie, so when she gets a scene she's going to need to make it count. But that's just a guess on my part.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Right, and now she needs to catch back up. Based on recent events, it just feels like Sam is going to have more scenes than Ellie, so when she gets a scene she's going to need to make it count. But that's just a guess on my part.

With Ellie possibly getting her shot at a sex scene with Sophia on PD16, but Sam having to wait until at least PD20?

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

With Ellie possibly getting her shot at a sex scene with Sophia on PD16, but Sam having to wait until at least PD20?

I just can't see Ellie being the first on PD16.

 

[Alley_Cat]

I just can't see Ellie being the first on PD16.

Well, the 2nd lesbian sex scene (within the next 4 PDs) seems likely for PD16, and Ellie has "several" events that day, so it seems to at least be a reasonable assumption.

I've always just gone with Patricia on PD15 at the ranch, Ellie on PD16, and Alyssa on PD17, since that's when Zac and Dylan with be busy at football.

 

[farrah]

Well that's the thing, things are beginning to happen because they have to start happening. We're kinda in the same place that Game of Thrones was in during season 6, there were a lot of characters that had to get into position for the final season or two, and that required some BIG jumps. Sam, Dylan, and Sophia have already made big jumps in the last 2 PDs, and now it's Ellie's turn. It's especially true because Ellie doesn't get as many scenes as Sam and Dylan, so her character is going to take bigger leaps in each scene so that she keeps pace with Dylan and Sophia.

I wouldn't like to see something like season 8 in the future. Despite the similar strong changes in some characters

 

[farrah]

The only thing that Dylan said to Ellie at the end of the restaurant was that he has a plan to get back at Logan and for Ellie to text Logan's email, and he might tell Ellie about the plan later that evening.

It's very strange that the Dylan/Ellie plot involves Logan at all. Logan only appears in Ellie/Sophia route. Additionally, he is the antagonist in this route. Either this is a plot blunder, or Logan becomes Ellie’s boyfriend in any case.

because it feels like the game has shifted in favor of Sam

Are we sure we're talking about the same game?

That's because of how rapidly Ellie progressed at the start of the story and all the males started to fall behind, so L&P had to play catch-up with the male cast members due to his comment that Husband > Females > Males storytelling order.

Now it seems to me that the emphasis has a little changed. In any case, due to Sophia/Ellie route rare appearance, Ellie will start to lag behind again.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

It's very strange that the Dylan/Ellie plot involves Logan at all. Logan only appears in Ellie/Sophia route. Additionally, he is the antagonist in this route. Either this is a plot blunder, or Logan becomes Ellie’s boyfriend in any case.

Are we sure we're talking about the same game?

Now it seems to me that the emphasis has a little changed. In any case, due to Sophia/Ellie route rare appearance, Ellie will start to lag behind again.

It looks like after Saturday PD 14, we will probably be coming up with mostly lesbian events from PD 15-19 since it was mentioned that was the PD range for the events. So that's probably a good 10 years of lesbian content right there.

 

[Alley_Cat]

It's very strange that the Dylan/Ellie plot involves Logan at all. Logan only appears in Ellie/Sophia route. Additionally, he is the antagonist in this route. Either this is a plot blunder, or Logan becomes Ellie’s boyfriend in any case.

Are we sure we're talking about the same game?

Now it seems to me that the emphasis has a little changed. In any case, due to Sophia/Ellie route rare appearance, Ellie will start to lag behind again.

If you have a look at the requirements to play the bonus storyline, it's entirely possible even if you choose for Sophia to watch Dylan's match. So Sophia doesn't take Ellie to the sauna, and Ellie doesn't meet Logan. So yeah, it's a plot blunder.

 

[hu lover]

If you have a look at the requirements to play the bonus storyline, it's entirely possible even if you choose for Sophia to watch Dylan's match. So Sophia doesn't take Ellie to the sauna, and Ellie doesn't meet Logan. So yeah, it's a plot blunder.

Very good descriptive explanation.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

It's very strange that the Dylan/Ellie plot involves Logan at all. Logan only appears in Ellie/Sophia route. Additionally, he is the antagonist in this route. Either this is a plot blunder, or Logan becomes Ellie’s boyfriend in any case.

I don't think Logan will become Ellie's boyfriend in any case. I think it's like the Aiden plot that you have to play it out to move Sophia/Dylan's arc and then reject Aiden. I think it will play out the same way with Dylan/Ellie, where Logan has to be part of it, then you can reject him.


if Ellie_is_with_Logan:
if day19_Dylan_takes_the_blame_for_Ellie:
jump day20_Dylan_with_Ellie_in_backyard

I think it closes out Logan if you choose not to forgive him, and it closes out Dylan if you choose to forgive him.

menu day20_Ellie_decides_forgiving_Logan_or_not:
Ellie/Logan
"Forgive Logan":
e "*Sigh.* I have to think about it."
e "Maybe I'll give him another chance."
scene day20_Dylan_Ellie_Part_ONE 21
dy "Well... that's your decision. But if I were you, I'd ditch that loser ASAP!"

Dylan/Ellie
"Don't forgive him":
$ day20_Ellie_doesnt_forgive_Logan = True

e "*Sigh.* Yeah, I think I should dump that motherfucker!"
e "He thinks that just because he's good looking and has a big cock, he can do whatever he wants! Fuck him!"
scene day20_Dylan_Ellie_Part_ONE 23
dy "Yeah, fuck that dick pirate!"
scene day20_Dylan_Ellie_Part_ONE 20
e "Dick pirate *smirk*?"
scene day20_Dylan_Ellie_Part_ONE 23
dy "Well if you don't like dick pirate, what about dickass?"
dy "Or Douchebagguette! Douchenoggin! Cock-juggling thundercunt!"
scene day20_Dylan_Ellie_Part_ONE 24
"Ellie had to chuckle."
scene day20_Dylan_Ellie_Part_ONE 23
dy "Or Cockgobbler! Dickfrog! Douchefuckmcgee! Or just Bieber!"
scene day20_Dylan_Ellie_Part_ONE 25
e "*Ha-ha*"
scene day20_Dylan_Ellie_Part_ONE 23

 

[Alley_Cat]

I don't think Logan will become Ellie's boyfriend in any case. I think it's like the Aiden plot that you have to play it out to move Sophia/Dylan's arc and then reject Aiden. I think it will play out the same way with Dylan/Ellie, where Logan has to be part of it, then you can reject him.


if Ellie_is_with_Logan:
if day19_Dylan_takes_the_blame_for_Ellie:
jump day20_Dylan_with_Ellie_in_backyard

I think it closes out Logan if you choose not to forgive him, and it closes out Dylan if you choose to forgive him.

Any content between Ellie and Dylan will close out anyway when the bonus storyline finishes, at the very latest, PD16.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

Any content between Ellie and Dylan will close out anyway when the bonus storyline finishes, at the very latest, PD16.

Do you think it's going to end on PD16??? It's no longer a bonus story. As much as you don't like Dylan, this wave will ride past PD16. You might want to accept that it's now as an alternative story like Dylan/Amber.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Do you think it's going to end on PD16??? It's no longer a bonus story. As much as you don't like Dylan, this wave will ride past PD16. You might want to accept that it's now as an alternative story like Dylan/Amber.

https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-offtopic-discussion.111628/post-8326698

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-offtopic-discussion.111628/post-8326698

Yes, I know that post well. And I will tell you that it most likely has changed.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Yes, I know that post well. And I will tell you that it most likely has changed.

But you've got bupkiss to back it up.

Whereas Sam has a better shot at Ellie. Sophia's even been pushing for it on the Ellie route. Don't like Sam as much as I don't like Dylan, but I'll still accept evidence when it's presented.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

But you've got bupkiss to back it up.

Whereas Sam has a better shot at Ellie. Sophia's even been pushing for it on the Ellie route. Don't like Sam as much as I don't like Dylan, but I'll still accept evidence when it's presented.

How do you know what I have and don't have? Or what I am willing to share and not willing to share? Honestly, you have no clue.