VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.215f] [Lust & Passion]

[Galaktur]

The whole idea is to hook up the unaware other part And that part will be just as forgiving and apologetic as his loyal enablers on Patreon
Stockholm syndrome is nothing new.

Rather, a complex of infantile fairy girls))))

 

[Radoslaw Wolf]

Rather, a complex of infantile fairy girls)))) View attachment 3178417

They'll try to convince you there's logic behind it, but don't get fooled. Some just don't care and/or are fully ok with his antics; some are scared he might abandon the project.
I can bet my balls he'd change his tune in no time when faced a significant drop on pledges, but it has not happened for six years and it ain't gonna happen now, so... FUBAR.

 

[Radoslaw Wolf]

I cannot understand how such a piece of crap has garnered so much acceptance...the developer is purposely stretching the broth to keep milking the patreons and they continue undaunted to pay...ten years from now the developer will still be tergiversing and you will still be paying like fools for a piece of crap that is not worth the time it takes but so be it, your business...

Careful with such statements, you'll wake up the grim facepalmers commando

 

[Radoslaw Wolf]

 

[palmtrees89]

Unlike Patreon, Steam have no such rule and has no problem with that content.

Incest is illegal in many countries on our planet, atleast to a certain degree of relationship. Same goes for depicting incest in games. Now, I can't tell what rules exactly there are on Steam in general, but if it's illegal in your country, you won't find it on Steam in your country either.

I'm curious; Can you name one game that has straight up mother-son incest in it that's also sold on Steam? And by that I mean unaltered relationship status. Because from what I know, games with incest are usually altered to have the Landlord/Landlady and tenant/ward relationships rather than straight up mother/son etc.

I can't think of a single game where that's a thing.

 

[rAmSiMaL]

I cannot understand how such a piece of crap has garnered so much acceptance...the developer is purposely stretching the broth to keep milking the patreons and they continue undaunted to pay...ten years from now the developer will still be tergiversing and you will still be paying like fools for a piece of crap that is not worth the time it takes but so be it, your business...

He’s rather stuck imo… Because he has a lot to produce. 17 PDs with one year per PD makes it 17 years in total. Even if he produces 1.5 PDs / year he has 11 more years of production… it is a lot and there’s no need to get stuck into details…

 

[palmtrees89]

It's been 6 years that the developer has been taking the piss out of you, turning the dog around, taking the piss out of you again, and turning the dog around again...I didn't know that poop was addictive but it sure seems to be the case...

This ain't Patreon my guy. The dude can't take the piss out of anyone here, unless they are paying.

I cannot understand how such a piece of crap has garnered so much acceptance

There really isn't much acceptance left for this developer among the people on this forum, I can tell you that much.

 

[DylansMoM_001]

XaGnard's logic is that it would be boring to only see Sophia's point of view, and since the entire Parker family is the main character, there is no problem in creating Dylan's single story, and Dylan's single story is necessary to corrupt Sophia.

I agree that different perspectives enrich the story, but I also say that Dylan should not be the MC.
- As I have said repeatedly, my argument is not about the presence of the character, but about the character's screen time. Sofia has no/little screen time in this update.

XaGnard's logic is, first, that seeing only Sophia's point of view is boring, so multiple perspectives are needed.
- I partially agreed with this and said that different perspectives enrich the story. (It also includes the meaning of partially disagreeing)

Second, since this game is “a wife and mother,” the son is also the main character.
- I disagree with this and Sofia is not the only one in this game who is "a wife and mother".
Sophia is not the main character because the title is “a wife and mother”, but the title is “a wife and mother” because Sophia is the main character.

This is like putting what should be put in front at the back and putting what should be behind at the front. It's like saying can sell edible apples at an Apple store or can sell farm equipment. Because of the title

Third, Dylan's role is important for Sophia's corruption process.
- I partially agreed with this opinion and said that Dylan has a role as a "device".

Lastly, XaGnard said that's why Dylan's single story was needed.
- I completely disagree with this opinion and the reasons are as follows:

First, Dylan's single story is another side story or, if not, another main story.
Of course, this causes the game to be extended/delayed.

Second, Sophia already has many routes, including the route with Liam, the route with Sam, the homosexual route, and the route with Dylan.
Here, Dylan's route after returning from the home party is added.
And Dylan already has six women, and with this update, Christine and Amy were added.
“There are already too many.”

Remember that most people said that in order to shorten the development period, the overall volume of the game should be reduced by cutting side stories and reducing the number of characters.

Third, Dylan has already returned from the club and received a handjob from Sophia in the jacuzzi.
This update is not a story after that, but an alternative story.
After Dylan gets a handjob from Sofia in the jacuzzi, he doesn't go to Christine's house.
Dylan canceled the jacuzzi event and went to Christine's house.

Do you think it's right for Dylan to cancel the jacuzzi event and go to Christine's house party for Sophia's corruption?

Dylan has already approached Sophia. Do you think it's right to cancel it and create another route?

Spoiler

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You want a Sophia/Dylan/Ellie threesome?

Would Dylan who got a handjob in the jacuzzi be faster or would Dylan who went to Christine's home party be faster?

And Dylan and Ellie somewhat restored their relationship after the laptop incident and the swing.
Their relationship turned sour at a fast food restaurant, and in this update, their relationship doesn't recover when Dylan chooses Christine or Amy.

This update is just an unnecessary waste of movement line and the addition of a useless new route.

100% agree with this..
This update is very unnecessary. L&p should've moved to the next morning and where Sophia would have a chat with Dylan about the date night. It would've been better if dev focused on how Dylans continues to act around Sophia and corrupts her after the handjob he got and then somehow involve Ellie in it. ( Only way we could get a M/S/D threesome event )
And Christine's party could've wait till Ellie and Dylan have developed a better relationship between themselves. It would've been interesting to see Ellie's reaction when other girls are flirting with Dylan.
Dev could also try shorten Christine/Dylan route so he could focus more on sophia and our personal kinks

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

True, but I still can't understand how there are so many people willing to throw money away on this crap with all the free and infinitely better visual novels than this that can be found on the net...

 

[armion82]

I haven't read all the history of you two guys arguing but if I understood correctly you are saying that events without Sophia like the current PD have no place in the VN as they aren't about Sophia and her corruption.
While I kind of wish we didn't have to play through these events instead of Sophia driven ones, I think they can influence the whole story.

Imagine at some point they will have a threesome in the family, Sophia and her kids. With what we currently know about Ellie and Dylan, that would be extremely out of character for Ellie. So if that is to happen, their relationship has to develop. Or maybe Ellie has some fun with Sophia and decides to help Dylan progress in his attempts with her. The same, why would she do that, if her relationship with Dylan doesn't develop? So if these are avenues that L&P is thinking about (not sure if he is), I do prefer to see how they get to this point than playing just Sophia events and then get blindsided(not really as we all know it will happen, but I think you get my point) with Dylan and Ellie hooking up.

Nothing wrong with an update not focused on Sophia.
The real problem is because of this update and Steam adventure,it will be more than half year(maybe even a whole year) without any meaningful scenes with Sophia.

 

[Hotcoupleeasy]

I still don't understand what is the purpose of this update! Why he didn't continue normally after Sophia Dylan jacuzzi? And why to do updates about Dylan only without Sophia? Unless the game is about Dylan and not anymore about Sophia.
Waste of time!.

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

I still don't understand what is the purpose of this update! Why he didn't continue normally after Sophia Dylan jacuzzi? And why to do updates about Dylan only without Sophia? Unless the game is about Dylan and not anymore about Sophia.
Waste of time!.

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[DarkShadow29]

Why would L&P even consider Steam, given the rules?

Because he is not satisfied with the money and the story suggestions that he is recieving from patreon. That's why the story is half screwed.
Now he will go to the steam to fuck up the story completely and get banned. And the game will be abandoned.
And tbh patreon might have similar policy for underage sex too, but he has loyal fans i guess. who doesn't complained yet.

 

[RUSSIAN MAFIA]

Spoiler: The dream of many!

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Don't be shy, Dear!

 

[Galaktur]

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Слишком поздно стесняться)))

 

[Galaktur]

What is the resolution of the pictures in the game?

 

[Lord_Xanatos]

Progress Report Ver. 0.195.

100% - 100% - 90%
0% - 0% - 90%

 

[Lust & nipple]

My top of the best scenes with Sofia's boobs (when someone is playing with her breasts and of course with her nipples)

Spoiler: Golden first place

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Spoiler: The second is as strong as Sophia's erect nipples.

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Spoiler: Third place lesbian cuckoldry.

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Spoiler: Fourth Place One of the hottest massage scenes in the game

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And now we need to turn on our most powerful analytics, we may need all the collective intelligence and the best experts, which of the heroes in the future will have the opportunity to test the strength of Sofia's breasts? Your guesses and bets?
Sam and Dylan technically have the longest scenes so far.

 

[Woodalicca]

Spoiler: I'll never get tired of the tensions in the thread prior to an update release

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[DIRTY FILTHY Animal]

760 renders for one event are way too many.

Here is the thing though, has anyone confirmed a new update does have the exact amount of new renders L&P claims it does?

I've always doubted the number he says, but that is just from viewing updates as I play through it.

760 renders for a side story that most of us don’t give a rats ass about, where was this many renders for the last Sophia update?