Dan5k74

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Also, a choice that might affect this update was the choice of kissing Ellie was Dylan when pretending to be her bf.
I agree with you and that's why, when I tried to find out from L&P the prerequisites needed to play the next update fully, I referred both to Dylan's behavior toward Ellie in today's diner event and to the French kissing lesson that in v.0185 Dylan just got from Sophia.
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What choices, previously made by the player regarding Dylan, will affect/limit the chance to fully play the next update? (maybe something to do with what possibly happened with Ellie during today's lunch at the diner? or with the French kissing lessons, possibly just had by Sophia, in the patron bath hot tub?)
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For the next update you just had to follow Dylan/Ellie storyline. So, helping her with the laptop, Ellie has to not forgive Logan, Dylan plays basketball with Christine and takes the blame for the cigarettes.
And promise to get booze for the party. But this all is also written in the walkthrough.
The former would consider whether or not Dylan attempted to kiss Ellie (day20_Dylan_kissed_Ellie_in_diner or day20_Dylan_put_his_arm_around_Ellie_in_diner), while the latter would consider whether or not Dylan finally learned how to kiss a girl (day20_Sophia_teaches_Dylan_how_to_kiss or day20_Sophia_french_kisses_Dylan). The latter, in my opinion, then might also be the most plausible reason to explain why at the beginning of v.0.190 the player (according to previous game choices) is given the choice: "Go to Christine's sleepover party," "Go to the basketball game," or "Date Sophia" (perhaps Dylan at Christine's party will be asked to practice what Sophia just taught him in v.0.185? Perhaps without this crucial lesson the player will not be able to continue further in v.0.195?).
As you can see yourself L&P in his reply made no mention of either the former or the latter eventuality.
Now, in my opinion, the options on how to interpret this answer are essentially:
1) L&P told me the truth and these events will have no influence on the update we are about to play (I would have been wrong to question his words).
2) L&P simply forgot to tell me that these events will also play an important role in the continuation of the game's path (it wouldn't surprise me too much, lately he seems to be much more focused on the visual aspects of his game rather than the narrative or purely technical ones)
3) L&P made fun of me with one of his sibylline answers, and probably in that final reference to what is written in the walktrough is the solution to all our questions. Then again, come to think of it, why should L&P reveal to me "exactly" what variables are involved in the next update? If he did, it would be a bit like revealing the contents in advance, and this L&P is always very careful not to do (knowing that there is something to do with kissing in the previous updates - whether with Ellie or Sophia - we would all have figured out in advance that in the next update Dylan might kiss some of the girls present at the party - even Ellie herself).
4) L&P simply misunderstood my question.
I would tend to rule out the latter option (I tried to be as explicit as possible about what I was interested in knowing, and I seem to have succeeded), while, as for the first three, I think they're all more or less equally likely.
 

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Also, if you play the game you can see that Sophie is clearly into Sam not Dylan, everything about Dylan feels forced it feels like she just go with it not to upset Dylan, but with Sam she is like in love with him she initiated first many times,
Yes, yes! You're so definitely right about that. She's so "like in love with him" that first, half of San Alejo will fuck her in all possible ways & styles and only then, broken and stretched much further than she wanted to go :KEK: she will "spread her soul" in front of her beloved almost-cuckold Sam.

:KEK:

What a wonderful and juicy love story, mmddaa :ROFLMAO:

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O tempora, o mores!

L&P plot we know so far.

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I wasn't trying to hurt you, im just having fun so don't get mad :ROFLMAO:
 
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rAmSiMaL

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Yes, yes! You're so definitely right about that. She's so "like in love with him" that first, half of San Alejo will fuck her in all possible ways & styles and only then, broken and stretched much further than she could to go :KEK: she will "spread her soul" in front of her beloved almost-cuckold Sam.

:KEK:

What a wonderful and juicy love story, mmddaa :ROFLMAO:

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O tempora, o mores!

L&P plot we know so far.

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I wasn't trying to hurt you, im just having fun so don't get mad :ROFLMAO:
You are brutal man… no filter brutally honest :LOL: :p

Don’t grow hopes though that half of San Alejo will fuck her… based on my discussions with him it will be a rather limited number of people… My impression is that there will be more lesbian scenes and teenage teasing scenes… the rest are there just to increase her filthy points…
 
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You are brutal man… no filter brutally honest :LOL: :p

Don’t grow hopes though that half of San Alejo will fuck her… based on my discussions with him it will be a rather limited number of people… My impression is that there will be more lesbian scenes and teenage teasing scenes… the rest are there just to increase her filthy points…
You should realise that if any of that ends up happening, it would be as soon as 2032, when most of you will be fathers and vaguely remember this as you lost interest long time ago.

BUT, if any of you are still around, there will be certain degrees of sex with most of the characters in the novel, but most of them will not share the same route. What I mean is that probably there wont be a route were Sophia fucks Dylan, Sam, Aiden, Zac, Darrel, the teacher, the principal, the black dude from the sauna, the mover guy in white and the mover in black (janitor), but rather one with only Dylan, or one with only Sam, and each version with two or three extras. That's how it feels.
 
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rAmSiMaL

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You should realise that if any of that ends up happening, it would be as soon as 2032, when most of you will be fathers and vaguely remember this as you lost interest long time ago.

BUT, if any of you are still around, there will be certain degrees of sex with most of the characters in the novel, but most of them will not share the same route. What I mean is that probably there wont be a route were Sophia fucks Dylan, Sam, Aiden, Zac, Darrel, the teacher, the principal, the black dude from the sauna, the mover guy in white and the mover in black (janitor), but rather one with only Dylan, or one with only Sam, and each version with two or three extras. That's how it feels.
11 different routes only for the names you mentioned…

Also some here are already parents and grandparents… so to say ;)

I don’t have anyone specifically in my mind. Just a reasonable guess I do :lepew:
 
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Progress Report Ver. 0.195.

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Well the 777 days for PD13 just go out of the window.
It looks like he wants to make it 780 days.
If the tits/boobs day(PD13) is taking that much time,I don't want to even imagine what will take pussy/sex day(PD16).
800 days?
1000 days?
3 years?
 

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It looks to me again a lot of nothing. I don't understand how can he justify releases like this to his supporters after 6 YEARS. Unfathomable...
 

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I don't get the whole steam thing logic for eliminating the shota. IMO that was one scene that had the hottest potential. The game is not gonna fly on steam anyway. Son jerks off in a beach cabana in front of his mom. Reason 1. Daughter masturbates in the shower in front of her Mom. Reason 2. Mom gives son a handjob in the hot tub until he cums. Reason 3. Neighbors Mom gives neighbors son a handjob and makes him cum under the kitchen table. Reason 4. Underage boy makes Sophia cum in his bedroom. Reason 5. You can just keep going on and on with the reasons why this game won't be hosted on steam so I don't see the logic that by eliminating the sex ed is going to allow the game on steam. Unless the dev is rewriting the whole thing - maybe that's what is taking so long. He would have to eliminate all the family and underage stuff in his rewrite. Anyways, eliminating the shota scene doesn't make sense.
fuck steam, the tutor side job has lots of potential, it's probably the hottest. who cares about steam's community which is made up of ugly degenerates. This game is called a wife and mother, so shota is the core genre, if he eliminates it, it means he is incompetent.
 

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11 different routes only for the names you mentioned…

Also some here are already parents and grandparents… so to say ;)

I don’t have anyone specifically in my mind. Just a reasonable guess I do :lepew:
Its fairly easy to figure out a few ones.

Ellie lesbian with Sophia. Probably that will involve other female adults, but main screen share will be for Ellie.
Ellie lesbian but not with Sophia. Probably more intense in the Patricia and Alyssa side.
Ellie not lesbian. Probably Sophia will have some fun with the postman, the Ellie's boyfriend friends, Patricia branches, etc...

Dylan alpha, probably set up to "save" Sophia from Aiden, Bennet, blocking other kids like Sam, Zac and the football team. I guess Sophia in order to fuck Dylan requires to see him as a man, so the rite of passage is defeating Aiden and Bennet threats. Also this line will have Dylan with other women, but not much Sophia's action, except maybe the threesome with Ellie if she becomes part of Dylan's harem.

Dylan cuck, probably the line were Aiden, Bennet, Sam and the team fucks/plays with Sophia. Dylan is not that much of a man, so Sophia needs to solve things on her own. One branch the kids get away with it (Aiden, team, etc..), one branch adults get their share (Morellos, Janitor, Principal, etc..)

Dylan out, probably where the Sam and Zac gets more chances as a romance rather than just a flirt and some short instances.

And I'm guessing that at some point, ALLLL those GW points should serve a purpose, there should be a turn around with the husband and make it worth the wait.
 

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So at the begging when he start to create this game, the release time between the updates was really short, I cant remember how long was but for sure was really short. Than the game got really popular and he said that he will invest all money in to upgrades, quit his job and start spending even more time for creating better and better episodes. At the moment he done that, the time span between the updates became longer. Than he said that he will hire someone to help him and that will improve the speed and the game quality. I cant remember if he actually hire someone, but at that moment the release time got even longer. Again he said: I will start doing Animations, and we overstep the time limit of 3 months for an update. Before, the translating and testing was no more than 2 to 4 days. Now it takes really long time.
Ok so logically he spend more to to make better episodes. But is it really wort it? The game is so old and again it is impossible even to say if we are close to the end of it. There is no sex scenes with the main character, or may be just one that was years ago, but the conception of the game is to follow Sophia falling in to a sex slave, like almost every other game.
 

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Guys, if Morello's men beat up little bastard Aiden, will this little bastard disappear from the story for good? Of course, the "kindness" can have repercussions later (Morello/Sophia?) But it's so good to see how terrified the little dude is. And no, I'm not interested in Aiden's next assignments. Whatever you say.
Also, it's bullshit that the game doesn't continue without Sam's boyish adventures. This is very forced writing. Anytime you contradict him and don't complete the scene, it's game over. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that there shouldn't be flirting with him, but if the player wants to, stop it. This game is always changed by your decisions, so there should be an opportunity to decide how far the romance can go in the case of Sam. I'll try it: I stopped Sam's advances at every major scene, and the scene ended quickly. And I didn't get any more scenes in the story. In fact, even if you have few points at the beginning of the game, the same thing happens, there is no continuation without it. It's frustrating because they force this character on you. I'm sure a lot of people will disagree with me, that's natural, since we're not all the same, and everyone expects something different from this game. I think the main basis of this game is Sophia/Dylan/Ellie and their story should be told. It should show how you are emotionally closest to your children. And how far this relationship can go with your children sexually.
And this story includes flirting with the side characters, but in no way would it turn her into a city whore, as many would like. Sophia doesn't deserve this (sorry, I'm not a pervert). Once again, I emphasize, I don't have a problem with Sam or any other character, but with the way Sam's character is forced in the story. Peace...
 
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