VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.215f] [Lust & Passion]

[Notretsam]

Next time know a law and don't come with stupid things like do you have a country. And ask the police like they know the law.

trust me, it's pointless engaging with them.

As for all the age talk, just because you think a character looks underage, doesn't mean they're underage. Ellie and Dylan did look young at one point but were aged up a long time ago, the tutoring boys except for the youngest can pass for 18.

Clearly, AWAM and other VN's have characters that are 18+ but are designed to look younger, however, people can look younger than they really are, that is a thing that happens.

at the end of the day, AWAM will live on but I hope L&P can get his Patreon sorted, especially since someone probably has reported him out of spite than anything else. He should've had a backup plan for potentially losing Patreon but did technically have that with SubscribeStar, I hope Boosty works out and someone tells him about Itch, as Itch allows the use of Paypal.

anyway, moving on, I'm looking forward to the next update, I am curious about what happens and if it pushes forward filthy, lesbian routes or just Good Wife, as I suspect the next update is mostly for the Good wife route, but might nudge forward the other two routes.

 

[Deleted member 5533454]

As Im in my 40s and I do believe that many people here are very young and inexperienced, Im going to address an elephant in the room. Then its up to any single one of you to take action.

If Sophia touches sexually the shota boys, as they are in many countries bracket age of pedophilia (that means that any kind of sex is forbidden under ANY circunstance even with explicit consent by the kids or their tutors), or engages in any kind of explicit sexual behaviour with them (verbally for example), then AWAM is inmediately considered as pedophilic material.

Ok, and you probably believe that is a problem for L&P only, but NO, it is YOUR problem now. Let me explain why.

If AWAM becomes pedophilic (if its not already), watching or possesing this material has LEGAL consecuences. And by extend, this forum if they dont cut all traces inmediately, it becomes a pedophilia internet place (probably already is). And yes, police departments that deal with this issues DO KNOW this kind of places and regularly watch them.

That means that if police looks at your computer for whatever reason, for example, your father has a legal problem and police goes to your house to check the computers (yours is going to be examined too), or you have a problem with selling drugs, or a big problem with taxes, or you fall into a fraud scam, etc... then the police will find pedophilia material in your computer, as AWAM and this board will be tagged so, and now you are in BIG trouble my friend. Your case will be the classical TV anchor announcing "and the police also found ilegal underaged sexual content in his computer".

Also, you can be 100% sure, that this board and your messages are being read by real pedophiles. You are not far away from them, you are sharing places. Probably you had even reacted to them and considered them funny or interesting.

So, if Sophia does the shota boys progression, and you still have any kind of frontal cortex left to rationalice the situations, you should INMEDIATELY delete the game from your computer, and probably delete the account from this place, clean your browser history, and forget all about AVNs and f95 all together.

My 2cp...

So, what exactly are you doing on this forum? Don't be an expert on law, just based on your opinions. Is Shota/pedophilia content wrong? absolutely yes, as it may influence people wrongly. Are people on this forum anyway complicit in it ? Hell no. I highly doubt anybody asked L&P to introduce Shota content, it was purely his/her doing and no law agency in this entire world can prove otherwise. In GOT books by GRRM, below age children are often subject to sexual abuse, is GRRM promoting pedophilia? No, his work is based on people of that period, doesn't mean you can be arrested for possession of book written by him. Sansa was shown to be raped in the show, Daenerys and Arya were shown to engage in sexual activities, they were played by actors above age but they represent below age children on the show, so can any law agency arrest you for watching the show accusing you of pedophilia, absolutely not. Your comment is nothing but ridiculous fear mongering.

 

[rAmSiMaL]

No need speak Russian) Everyone can support the LP as much as their income allows. Support him with at least $5, dude, and express your dissatisfaction as much as you want. But then it turns out that you just hate LP for its existence, yes, he did not fulfill many of the promises, but he has his own reasons for this. What right do you have to criticize people for their choices? What they do wrong is not a reason for you to criticize people.

I understand someone supporting LP and his project. I do support him myself. That doesn’t mean however that I am not going to criticise him and accept blindly whatever he does… if I don’t like part of the content I will tell him, if I don’t like part of the modification I will tell him as well. He may accept my criticism or ignore it completely. It’s up to him. If I see the project being completely derailed I may end my support and not bother at all criticising him.

Obviously you mean people to stop personal attacks on him. That’s completely unacceptable and I agree with that.

IMO he needed this shock to wake up, speed up and improve his project. Let’s see how it goes…

 

[Wbwbd85]

You said it can't be illegal if there are no victims.
On the contrary, I said that something can be illegal even if there are no victims.

And then you brought in a provision in the law that simply possessing the video could be illegal, regardless of whether there was a victim or not.

Do you have trouble concentrating?

The legal provisions you brought are proof that what I said is right and what you said is wrong.

I'm glad you can read. cause it says for computer generated images it has to reference and actual child.

 

[Lust & nipple]

trust me, it's pointless engaging with them.

As for all the age talk, just because you think a character looks underage, doesn't mean they're underage. Ellie and Dylan did look young at one point but were aged up a long time ago, the tutoring boys except for the youngest can pass for 18.

Clearly, AWAM and other VN's have characters that are 18+ but are designed to look younger, however, people can look younger than they really are, that is a thing that happens.

at the end of the day, AWAM will live on but I hope L&P can get his Patreon sorted, especially since someone probably has reported him out of spite than anything else. He should've had a backup plan for potentially losing Patreon but did technically have that with SubscribeStar, I hope Boosty works out and someone tells him about Itch, as Itch allows the use of Paypal.

anyway, moving on, I'm looking forward to the next update, I am curious about what happens and if it pushes forward filthy, lesbian routes or just Good Wife, as I suspect the next update is mostly for the Good wife route, but might nudge forward the other two routes.

They are already just trying to hurt him with everything they can, that's all, I love constructive, and this is just crap, moreover, they are the first to break into aggression, giving out not very stable mental personalities, since not one healthy person will spend so much time figuring out relationships for a porn game
Moreover, accusations of pedophilia are a direct threat to the forum, there is not a single game with such content, this is so, for the future
Moderators will never allow such content to be on this site, I remind you once again ( If you are too stupid to understand this thought, read it and think again )

 

[tofhdns]

What does this have to do with the topic of the game?
Your conversation is even more stupid, then write in all forum threads, seek justice, fight for the rights of every fictional character, I think you will do a great job, since you are not lazy to write posts every day, you obviously have a lot of free time.
You are trying to accuse Lust & Passion of pedophilia indirectly framing this forum to the same, it is very stupid I recommend you to stop, for the sake of your mental health.

It's not me that's stupid, it's you.

I never said I sought justice, and I never said fictional characters have human rights.

L&P got banned from Patron because of his game.

I just said this is reality.

If you're that brave, fight the Patron for L&P or fight the country.

Again, this is reality.

 

[Lust & nipple]

It's not me that's stupid, it's you.

I never said I sought justice, and I never said fictional characters have human rights.

L&P got banned from Patron because of his game.

I just said this is reality.

If you're that brave, fight the Patron for L&P or fight the country.

Again, this is reality.

Then why this idle conversation you were having? I think it's a very clever idea to write about these things, framing the moderators and the site, you are obviously one of those people who think ahead a lot.
Don't try to twist your ass around now, you've tried to do it you can't do it, all you can do is call people not smart, but you can always tell from the outside buddy.
You clearly wrote this with the intent of accusing him of this, and you did so

 

[tofhdns]

Then why this idle conversation you were having? I think it's a very clever idea to write about these things, framing the moderators and the site, you are obviously one of those people who think ahead a lot.

I said that L&P should not disappoint or ignore his Patrons.
I said that his Patrons had the power to report him.

This is all I can say.
What more should I do?

I am not his follower.

You, fight for him.
You follow him, but don't have the courage to do so?

 

[tofhdns]

Don't try to twist your ass around now, you've tried to do it you can't do it, all you can do is call people not smart, but you can always tell from the outside buddy.
You clearly wrote this with the intent of accusing him of this, and you did so

Before writing this post, I said "already, a long time ago" that I liked Side Job 2.

I'm just stating the reality.

What good does denying reality because you don't like it help?
Do you think Patreon will unblock AWAM because you deny reality?
Accepting reality and finding a way will help him.
(He is already looking for another way.)

I've said it over and over again, but followers like you guys are no help to him.

 

[sept0342]

Thank god moderators created AN OFFTOPIC THREAD

 

[Lust & nipple]

I said that L&P should not disappoint or ignore his Patrons.
I said that his Patrons had the power to report him.

This is all I can say.
What more should I do?

I am not his follower.

You, fight for him.
You follow him, but don't have the courage to do so?

Buddy, you failed to have a conversation with me, and all you have to do is accuse me of supporting Lust & Passion, even though anyone who sits on the forum knows my attitude towards it.
You failed to have a constructive conversation, all you did was twist the conversation, unfortunately for you.
In the future think with your head, it will come in handy in life.

Before writing this post, I said "already, a long time ago" that I liked Side Job 2.

and I don't, so what now?, that's not what this conversation is about, you brought it up just to say he's such a bad pedophile developer
Do you really think people are that stupid and would understand that?

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[tofhdns]

Buddy, you failed to have a conversation with me, and all you have to do is accuse me of supporting Lust & Passion, even though anyone who sits on the forum knows my attitude towards it.
You failed to have a constructive conversation, all you did was twist the conversation, unfortunately for you.
In the future think with your head, it will come in handy in life.

and I don't, so what now?, that's not what this conversation is about, you brought it up just to say he's such a bad pedophile developer
Do you really think people are that stupid and would understand that?

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It doesn't matter whether you know or not.

Bring me proof that I said so.

I expressed my preference in the post above.
(Of course, I'm not a pedophile, but I'm interested in Sophia in that situation.)

And tell me what I distorted.

 

[Lust & nipple]

It doesn't matter whether you know or not.

Bring me proof that I said so.

I expressed my preference in the post above.
(Of course, I'm not a pedophile, but I'm interested in Sophia in that situation.)

And tell me what I distorted.

What else do I have to do for you?
People will read and draw conclusions.
You've already done it three times, I'm gonna run out of fingers to count how many times I've done it.
Keep writing, keep contradicting yourself, you're great at it, you might say you're better at it than anyone else today

 

[Bibifoc]

Some things will never change here. It's reassuring to know that I can hold on to that

 

[tofhdns]

What else do I have to do for you?
People will read and draw conclusions.
You've already done it three times, I'm gonna run out of fingers to count how many times I've done it.
Keep writing, keep contradicting yourself, you're great at it, you might say you're better at it than anyone else today

That's right, you can't do anything.
You just say, "Yeah, no. I'm right. I don't need proof." This is all you can say.

 

[Lust & nipple]

That's right, you can't do anything.
You just say, "Yeah, no. I'm right. I don't need proof." This is all you can say.

You win, everyone, calm down, you've done well today, you've lived up to your posting standards.
Don't get so angry, it's funny.
I'm just afraid you can write 150 posts in one day.

 

[Funky_A]

I can't understand how someone can report a dev in patreon, if this happened, and make him loose his revenue, his way of leaving. This is no virtual reality, this is real life ...Sow some respect to a man's life

How many games in this forum is better than AWAM? Three? Four? none? I really can't understand this report stuff and how someone cares for no one, the dev, the funs of this game and just do something like that... Sick person(s) I guess

Lets hope LP find a way around this and have some savings to get around these first months

 

[palmtrees89]

Lets hope LP find a way around this and have some savings to get around these first months

He's not gonna starve unless he spends 15k a month on cocaine and hookers.

 

[Lust & nipple]

He's not gonna starve unless he spends 15k a month on cocaine and hookers.

he's gonna have to switch to beer.

 

[DylansMoM_001]

Some things will never change here. It's reassuring to know that I can hold on to that

I come here everyday to discuss about a porn vn, instead I get lectured on morals..this is the only place..