conair_oops

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Combining 2 events will take more time with at least 500 renders unless LP plans to do it in a cursory way just to complete the two side jobs
in a situation where he needs more subscribers to return, the decision to have no updates for about 5 months is really strange
 

Alley_Cat

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So you support L&P financially. I have to admit that I'm a bit surprised.
I think your comment that you're a bit offended because you as a fan group have no influence on the development or because you prefer other fetishes to yours suggests that you are financially involved in the project. Why else would L&P do what you want?

I would assume that the people who want to see the second part-time job are also the ones who donate the most money. Because that's the only way to explain why he's sticking with the second part-time job. As you said, the number of supporters who voted for the second part-time job can't be the reason.
No, I'm not a financial supporter. I won't, until specific changes are made. That's actually my point. There's a thing in financial circles called "opportunity cost", which is the loss off income one is wiling to accept in making a particular decision. What I'm asserting, kinks and kink-shaming aside, is that there is a measurable drop in income that L&P has decided to acept, in order to tell the story he wants to tell, that, I find surprprising.
 

Alley_Cat

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I can see another handjob coming
I see yet another update not worth downloading upcoming. As I've said, not only is the upcoming update nothing but kiddie porn, but won't add anything to the game. Won't add necessary Filthy points, won't add anything to Sophia's corruption, but nothing but a completely useless update that will do nothing but extend how long it will take until we get to the sex scenes.
 

hzjujk

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I see yet another update not worth downloading upcoming. As I've said, not only is the upcoming update nothing but kiddie porn, but won't add anything to the game. Won't add necessary Filthy points, won't add anything to Sophia's corruption, but nothing but a completely useless update that will do nothing but extend how long it will take until we get to the sex scenes.
I see it differently, it will entertain me and I don't ask for anything more, so the upcoming updates are not superfluous as far as I'm concerned.
And unlike most people here, the lack of penetration scenes doesn't bother me at all. Especially since I think that the definition of what sex is and isn't is too narrow here in the forum. (Please no legal discussions now!). For me, having sex means more than just a man inserting his penis into a woman, or a woman fucking another woman with a strap-on.
 

holy_cat

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I would assume that the people who want to see the second part-time job are also the ones who donate the most money. Because that's the only way to explain why he's sticking with the second part-time job. As you said, the number of supporters who voted for the second part-time job can't be the reason.
This is something I can't understand. The second side job looks like walking on thin ice. L&P risks a lot - and what can he (she, it...) get? There must be or at least should be some risk/reward assessment. Playing 'tricks' that this would be a separate DLC, or combination of two side jobs... Well, this ice is close to cracking.

My problem with the second side job is not (not only) with underage content per se, by the way. I am not the Patreon police. For me it was simple badly written and making very little sense, assuming that Sophia was (at least to some extent) an intelligent and responsible person. This was probably the very first example of such radical change of Sophia's personality and behaviour, which was followed by the change of her appearance, too... I was shaking my head in disbelief, instead of instant arousal, if I may share this intimate detail.
 
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holy_cat

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And unlike most people here, the lack of penetration scenes doesn't bother me at all. Especially since I think that the definition of what sex is and isn't is too narrow here in the forum. (Please no legal discussions now!). For me, having sex means more than just a man inserting his penis into a woman, or a woman fucking another woman with a strap-on.
You are not alone. This is not the main point also for me. Assuming that the story does not become stupid (which is not related to actual penetration or lack of penetration. But this stick has two ends - and reasonable person cannot give handjobs or blowjobs, thinking 'this is not sex and I am still a faithful wife and mother'. And I am afraid that this is what we will get in next updates).
 
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Gogo1235

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I can see another handjob coming
Honestly speaking, even if L&P decides to include last HJ before Sophia moves out of this phase then it needs to be substantial. Like Sophia finally taking the charge admitting that she likes this kinky side of her and is no more apologetic about it. I'm done with her being like, "Oh let me rub down his dick real quick" and "But I am married and have kids", lady just fucking make your mind. Her character has crossed that bridge and L&P needs to show it better in the story. If I am playing the filthy route, I want Sophia to be accepting of her choices, if she is always bemoaning her choices after she has already done the deed then what's the use of filthy route?

Feel bad for Sam though, poor chap's "secret" girlfriend is giving HJs to everyone in town except him:LOL:.
 

Anteron

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I see it differently, it will entertain me and I don't ask for anything more, so the upcoming updates are not superfluous as far as I'm concerned.
And unlike most people here, the lack of penetration scenes doesn't bother me at all. Especially since I think that the definition of what sex is and isn't is too narrow here in the forum. (Please no legal discussions now!). For me, having sex means more than just a man inserting his penis into a woman, or a woman fucking another woman with a strap-on.
Handjob scenes and boring as fuck and blowjob almost as much. Stuff I normally ctrl or rapidly click through (or skip, even in real porn.) Only thing worth seeing is vaginal or anal sex.
 

rash.3517

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In a couple of years, AI will reach a level when, by feeding it resources and a description, it will be possible to get a render in a couple of minutes and then it will go...
 

cloudstrife

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Enough with this BS slow burn, dev. But your VN needs to find some ****ing STORY. When was the last time an actual plot happened in this VN Wife & Mother project? :ROFLMAO:

Was it Sophia getting harassed at subway? Was it the next door neighbor cumin over? Was it blackmailed at school by janitor, faculty and student? Was it sisters night out / husband lost a poker night?o_O:censored:

Seriously, write a main story for “A Mother and A Wife” Sophia. From movers and packers to school administration, from neighbors to secondary jobs, from horny sister to friendly mafia boss, from kinki husband to husband's boss.:unsure::FacePalm:
Well Sophia's first major cheat is supposed to happen sometime in the next playable day, but judging by what happened with DeShawn in the shower I reckon it's only going to be a blowjob.... So nothing vastly major, although that would be major for Sophia since she's pretty much a nun in this game. The sex ed lesson could be an interesting one with where she's going take it next from where it left off
 
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hzjujk

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Honestly speaking, even if L&P decides to include last HJ before Sophia moves out of this phase then it needs to be substantial. Like Sophia finally taking the charge admitting that she likes this kinky side of her and is no more apologetic about it. I'm done with her being like, "Oh let me rub down his dick real quick" and "But I am married and have kids", lady just fucking make your mind. Her character has crossed that bridge and L&P needs to show it better in the story. If I am playing the filthy route, I want Sophia to be accepting of her choices, if she is always bemoaning her choices after she has already done the deed then what's the use of filthy route?

Feel bad for Sam though, poor chap's "secret" girlfriend is giving HJs to everyone in town except him:LOL:.
From what you write, you have never had a steady girlfriend and/or have never made such a stupid decision to cheat on her.
Because the pangs of conscience and feelings of guilt don't go away, even if you've fucked your lover umpteen times. Only psychopaths are so emotionally uninvolved.
It's not that L&P doesn't find the taboo-breaking in Sophia's inner monologues arousing, but it's only natural that thoughts that testify to feelings of guilt keep cropping up.
Her domestic situation in particular, with two children and a husband who isn't an asshole but is simply too carefree and is currently riding a wave of success, would not make it credible if Sophia, after 14 virtual game days, lacks any feeling of guilt.

But it should also be mentioned that what you are criticizing is caused by the fact that there are so many individual routes that apparently have nothing to do with each other, and that's why Sophia's inner monologues and feelings of guilt feel like endless repetitions. But this is just bad writing by the author.
 
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