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VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.215f] [Lust & Passion]

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Ruffles&Lays

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xxxorro said:
Let's unpack what happened in this v0.205

Patricia
As predicted, Patricia didn't play much of a role in this event. At least not a direct one (see later). It seems that she was only there to remind Sophia of the ranch event for the next day. But, and sorry if this feels like a personal (uphill) battle, it didn't fix the little "bug" of Sophia not being invited to the ranch if Dylan was at the boarding school. We already had this issue in the kitchen conversation with Liam in v0.200, where no condition was used for that dialogue. And similarly no condition was used here (e.g. day18_Dylan_is_in_boarding_school). I know this is just nitpicking amongst all the other problems, but it doesn't take a new render to fix it, just a few dialogue fixes. But alas...

Anyways, the short exchange with Patricia was interesting because it revealed some pieces of information about the ranch event.
  • Patricia will pick up Sophia at 9:30,
  • Sophia has to pack some hiking boots and gear because they will be "riding out into the wilderness!". This could be another hint that they will be in an isolated environment, as speculated.
  • Zoey is very excited to meet Sophia. (we all are :) )
  • Her husband will be away with the kids. Remember that L&P said that the event will be mostly a lesbian event but he got evasive as usual when asked about hetero scenes in the event (Well... yes and no. source). So it could be possible that a stable boy or someone who guide them during the horse ride could be involved in the scene.
From a later dialogue with Vicky about the ranch visit, we also know that Sophia never tried horse-back riding before.
Python: 
s "I've always wanted to try, but I've never gotten around to it. I've heard it's quite therapeutic and can be a great workout too. And I thought it would be a nice change of pace from our regular weekend routines."
s "The fresh air, the beautiful scenery, and some girl bonding time. It might be just what we all need."
This goes with one L&P's answers in which he stated that Patricia [can ride] a bit more than Sophia (source).

As it has been pointed out, even Patricia's 3d model seems to have been through some modifications:
Patricia in v0.205Last seen Patricia at Sam's concertPatricia at the yoga event
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Vicky and DeShawn

The condition to access to the event has changed wrt v0.200. It requires at least 4 vicky points instead of 3. That means that at bare minimum Sophia had to remove her towel in the their previous event in the sauna.
Then the event can only proceed if day19_Sophia_joined_Vicky_DeShawn_after_they_made_out, which also implies that all the other lewd choices like looking at DeShawn's dick had to be taken. If that is not the case Sophia refuses doing partner exercises with DeShawn without a player choice and the event quickly ends.

To be noted that while there are some Sophia's thoughts about what happened just a few hours earlier in the sauna with Ellie (day21_Sophia_accepts_sharing_with_Ellie_1st_time), there are no references to what happened with Tyler (if it was the case). It's kind of strange considering that in that particular path it would be the second cock she touches and holds in the span of just a few hours in the morning. But this is again (unfortunately) consistent with many similar missing references in previous releases, as each event now tends to be more and more isolated from the rest of the story.

As we all predicted, Vicky and DeShawn's "secret" is revealed. Beside expressing their sexuality very freely (sauna scene), it turned out that they have a sort of open relationship in which they like to bring in other people. This is revealed initially in a subtle way by DeShawn when he asks Sophia about her married life:
Python: 
ds "So, Sophia, I've been meaning to ask... what's it like to be married with older kids? I mean, don't you ever miss this kind of... freedom Vicky and I have? *Smirk*"
"Sophia chuckled."
s "Uh... what kind of 'freedom' are you talking about exactly, DeShawn?"
"DeShawn chuckled."
ds "You know, the freedom to... explore your options, try new things, that kind of stuff. Without feeling the chains of marriage binding on your hands and feet."
"Sophia suddenly became very hot."
Then Vicky, who is the main instigator, opens up about it in the locker room, although she says it in the
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while deliberately keeping some ambiguity about of the truth of the revelation and the invitation for Sophia to join.
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That it was not a joke will appear clear later on in the shower. And before the reveal there were other hints.
From Vicky planning a "special" workout from the start
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to her many wink moments during the exercises and the shower (note that it's only in the text, not a trace of winking in the renders)
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Not to mention the continuous sexual innuendos between Sophia and DeShawn during the exercises
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To be noted that in a way Sophia also started the sex jokes while chatting with Vicky
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And finally in the shower clearly Vicky alludes to their games while Sophia starts to rub DeShawn
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Python: 
s "I can't believe you guys are okay with it. You really seem to have a very open relationship."
v "If you only knew. *Smirk*"

So the whole thing, if it was not planned by the couple it wasn't just a spur of the moment thing either. We don't know if it is done deliberately as a part of a strategy, but both of them start with addressing the elephant in the room and apologizing for what Sophia saw in the sauna. First Vicky
Python: 
v "Speaking of the sauna... I wanted to talk to you about the last time. You know, I... hope you don't think anything weird about us or anything."
s "Why should I? You haven't done anything forbidden, have you? {t}Unlike me earlier with my daughter!{/t}"
v "Yeah, we like to express our sexuality freely. And when we think we won't be disturbed, we just can't keep our hands off each other, if you know what I mean? *Smirk*"
s "Yeah, fully and completely. After all, you're still young and hot-blooded. I 'm not judging."
s "The fact that I caught you doing it doesn't change anything between us. I'm totally fine with it."
v "Wow, that's really reassuring. I thought you'd think we were perverts or something 'cause we do things like that in public."
and then DeShawn
Python: 
"Sophia was still embarrassed about looking at his cock in the sauna last and vowed to keep her eyes up this time. "
"And speaking of the devil..."
ds "Hey, um... about last time. You know... in the sauna. I hope you're not appalled about me or Vicky now."
s "Nah, I'm cool with it."
ds "You sure?"
s "Yeah. Don't worry. I think it's amazing that you two are expressing your sexuality very freely."
"Sophia tried to appear as relaxed as possible, which she didn't particularly succeed in doing."
ds "Well. Then... cool. *Ha-ha*"

Another hint seemingly confirming that they were interested in Sophia comes from the dialogues/text after any Sophia's refusal. If she refuses to do partner exercises
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or if she refuses to touch or continue rubbing DeShawn
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Python: 
v "Alright, I understand that. If you're not ready, no problem. We won't pressure you"
"Vicky said in a reassuring tone. But it was clear from their expressions that they were both a bit disappointed by her response. "
All in all, Vicky was the "surprise" of the event, as she is portrayed as the naughty little minx who planned and pushed Sophia's boundaries. We didn't have many clues about that, other than being open and trying to loosen up Sophia a littel bit in the previous events (e.g. during the massage, in the sauna with the towel). Sophia, as usual, was mostly passive. Apart from the back and forth with DeShawn during the exercises, she was mostly reacting to what was going on around her. In the shower it was again Vicky who encouraged her to touch DeShawn and she took Sophia's hand to guide it towards DeShawn's cock.
The only time Sophia had a choice to be more "active" was when she had to choose between watching Vicky give him a BJ or rejoining the duo and restarting the HJ while Vicky continued her BJ. And as usual and as predicted, after the shower scene she was tormented by guilt and doubt about what had happened.

The path of the event is pretty linear, only the lewd choices lead to the final shower scene, while any other choice prevents the showering together. In the shower, however, if Sophia chooses to watch in one of the two occasions (not to continue rubbing his dick or not to participate in DeShawn's orgasm), it ends with the same discussion with Vicky as the other choices. But then, when they part outside the gym, Vicky does not get close to Sophia to whisper in her ear. Presumably, in this last scene Sophia's participation is required to continue along this path, so all the lewd choices must be taken.
The player can choose indifferently between DeShwan cumming in her hands or on Vicky's face. The only difference between the two is that the first option awards 3 filthy points instead of 2.


Here are some other minor remarks.

Again, if we want to nitpick, the recollection of what happened in the gym showers last time does not reflect the possible choices of the player. Sophia explains to Vicky
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The facts of this recollection only happen if Sophia went to pick up the shower gel from Patricia naked and tried to go back to her stall when she heard the guys entering (i.e. day3_gym_guys_seen_Sophia_naked). If she wore the towel and tried to go back, there was a less embarrassing situation. If she entered the Patricia's stall, instead, she did not even meet the guys.


Just like in the sauna Sophia is caught looking at DeShawn cock, this time twice, plus one more time in the shower, caught by both of them (but of course that was Vicky's plan when started caressing it)
In the gymIn the sauna
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There are 3 daydream moments in the event, in which Sophia starts thinking how it would be having sex with the couple.
  1. During the exercise with DS
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    Python: 
    "Sophia's mind raced with dirty thoughts, imagining the two of them, Vicky and Deshawn, tangled in the heat of passion, exploring each other's bodies without inhibitions."
"She wondered how it would feel to be a part of their world. To feel DeShawn's solid muscles against her own softness. To taste Vicky's juices on her lips as they share passionate kisses."
"She snapped out of her X-rated daydream when Vicky suddenly turned up."
  2. During the discussion with Vicky in the locker room
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    Python: 
    v "You know how people say, 'Once you go black, you'll never go back'? There's some truth to that, for sure."
"Sophia's cheeks flushed as she tried to wrap around her head around Vicky's supposedly wild and spicy sex life. She couldn't help but feel a twinge of jealousy mixed with arousal, imagining the three of them tangled in the sheets, lost in pure carnal pleasure."
"Vicky noticed her friend's discomfort and quickly changed the subject, not wanting to make her feel uncomfortable."
v "But enough about me. How's your sex life with your hubby these days? Are the flames still burning bright or have they already settled into a slow, cozy fire?"
  3. In the shower when that minx of a Vicky reveals DeShawn that Sophia asked about his cock and how she handles it.
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    Python: 
    v "I told her that it does hurt at first, but only 'cause it's just so fuckin' big. But after a while, your body gets used to it."
v "And then, oh my God, the pleasure outweighs the pain! Like, you've never felt anything like it! \n{color=#ffffff}She added, shooting a lustful look at DeShawn."
"Vicky's words only fueled the fire within Sophia's pussy, as she could only imagine how it would feel to have DeShawn's impressive manhood inside her."
"Her mind raced with naughty thoughts, her imagination running wild with images of the three of them entangled in a sweaty, passionate embrace. She tried to shake off these inappropriate fantasies and focus on their conversation, but it was difficult when her eyes kept drifting towards the growing bulge."

Contrary to Larry's fantasy, we don't have any renders describing such scenes. Probably they would spoil what's to come in the future, while we know there won't be any other interaction for Larry. Just for the record, other fantasy moments (without renders) for Sophia were at the mall when Dylan told her how the students fantasized about her and she got lost in her own fantasies.
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And in the shower after watching porn, when she fantasized about replacing the protagonist of the video she had just watched.
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As usual with recent releases there are lot of moments where the text does not fit the renders. Most notably for her famous lip biting moments
Python: 
"She bit her bottom lip, trying to maintain her composure. "

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"As if on cue, Vicky decided to get some water, leaving DeShawn and Sophia alone for a brief moment. Seizing the opportunity, DeShawn reached out and brushed a stray strand of hair from Sophia's face, his fingers lingering just a bit too long on her cheek."
ds "You're really beautiful, you know that?"
"Sophia blushed and bit her lower lip."
Or just an example this moment of the acrobatic exercise with DeShawn in which from the description of the narrator it felt like a render was missing
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Probably the whole posing was too complicated to reproduce?


This was Sophia's second full HJ, after the one with Dylan the night before. (ok, if we want to nitpick she didn't give a full HJ if you choose DeShawn cumming in her hands...). We can expect more during this PD, probably starting from the 2nd side job and maybe in the evening event at the museum. We don't have any clue for the moment what Dylan's events in the afternoon could be about.


What's next

From the event we know that DeShawn invites Sophia to his basketball game on Thursday (PD 19).
Python: 
ds "The offer still stands. We have a game on Thursday mornin’. You can come if you feel like it and have time."
s "That could work, since I happen to have Thursday off in the morning."
We have no confirmation yet that this is an actual event but it could be a follow up event. Interestingly, but to be taken with a huge grain of salt, PD 19 was also the PD in which at some point L&P declared Sophia will have sex for the first time outside her marriage. It is an old comment that has been removed, so it is reported just for the records.

Vicky's last words in before part away are very significant:
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Python: 
"Vicky stepped closer to Sophia,..."
"...squeezed her ass ..."
"...and whispered in her ear."
v "And I know you want more. And when you're ready for more, you know where to find me...and him."
this is obviously an invite for more and it seems to place the ball in Sophia's court. For the first time in the story so far, if she wants to have any further interaction with the couple it will be her move to make. Hence a conscious, active decision to cheat on her husband. Obviously we don't have any information on this, we don't know if at any point Sophia for some reason will have this decision to make which still seems too much of a big step at this point of the game and considering the guilt for what just happened it seems a big step
Python: 
"Sophia was still standing there, thinking about Vicky's last words for a moment as she watched her ride away on the bus and disappearing behind the corner."
st "Does she really want more? No. That's going too far!"
st "A little adventure like in the shower was perhaps what I needed. But I'd never go any further than that!"
Or, somehow, Vicky may call her instead, maybe to debrief again what happened, have another meeting with the promise that there will be no strings attached, as she seems to suggest here
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It could also be that there will be some messages exchanged, maybe even with DeShawn, to make her more at ease and joke about what happened. And they could also try to rein her in with some hot pictures or videos of their performaces. That **could** be a trigger for Sophia to go back to them. But again, this is all speculation.


The other important aspect is what Vicky said about Liam in the shower after DeShawn left:
Python: 
v "Hey, I'm not here to pressure you into anything, but I'll leave you with this: life's too short to not explore your wild side every once in a while."
v "And who knows? Maybe your handsome husband might be into a few surprises himself. Just food for thought."
Not clear here if she is suggesting that her husband might be doing the same behind her back or he might be open to participate and have fun with them (i.e. swinging). In the first case, as she is in a way planting the seed of doubt we could have expected Sophia's thoughts re-elaborate on that and consider that he might be doing the same.

Finally, a last word for where we started. Patricia. There **could** be more to it than just reminding Sophia of the ranch event. Patricia in the game is the great corrupter of Sophia. So it could be that Vicky already talked to Patricia about her plans with Sophia and Patricia might even have tipped her off. Also since they know each other, there is a possibility that Vicky confides to Patricia what happened. Patricia will have then the opportunity to use this information to further push Sophia's boundaries. But again, this is all speculation.
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These analyses of yours are very good.

I've asked questions here before, but they always respond with irony or disdain, and there are so many messages one after the other with nonsense and side issues that it's hard to keep up and read everything.

In any case, I'd like to know your opinion about two things that are still unclear to me.
Is the main reason DEV L&P was banned from Patreon directly related to the SHOTA (Life Model) scene/event or are there other reasons?

I think I was one of the first people to warn about the exclusion of the Shota event from version v0.205, as soon as it was posted here on the forum.

Since there were so many messages, it ended up going unnoticed by many.
I later alerted the moderators to include this information in the Changelog, which until then only said: N/A.
Luckily, someone made a patch that restored the event to the gallery from version v0.205.

Now that DEV has gone to Subscriberstar, do you think the SHOTA event will continue or will this side event not have any more updates from now on?
 
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My Q&A with L&P

1. Will we see more of Zac, Alyssa and Sophia's story?

2. In the previous story, Zac came out of the bathroom naked while Sophia was sitting on a couch. Does it show us that he usually does this (he wears light or less clothes when he is home alone with his mother)?

3. All the men in San Alejo (even the women) are sexually attracted to Sophia. You said that Sam is the last one to have sex with Sophia. Is there a reason why Sam is the last?

4. Will Sophia be Dylan's first experience with a woman?

5. Do Liam and Ellie develop their relationship intimately?

Answers from L&P
1. Yes
2. It was just a one time scene
3. Someone has to be. In my story, it hit Sam. But it has also to do with another reason you will know on Monday playable day 23
4. Depends on your decisions. Might also be someone else.
5. No
 
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