VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.220] [Lust & Passion]

[armion82]

Aiden currently has 141 votes! He has become the 3rd most important character in AWAM. I think it will have an impact on the upcoming tasks and story. L&P feels validated to possibly expand Aiden's blackmailing story.
For me actually very surprising! I'm more of a romantic and wouldn't want to humiliate women in real life nor in a porngame.
But good! We must accept the poll first of all so. But if AWAM really gets similar traits like Fashion Buisness or even Glamour, I'm also out.

I am not sure the polls really matters.
We probably will get another side job and more routes,spreading even more,instead of focusing on 10 characters.

Polls like this make me roll my eyes because I don't understand the goal. It feels like confirmation bias and the worst kind of popularity contest. Polls should ask a less open-ended question and be utilized to make (minor) decisions for upcoming releases. Using it to gauge the popularity of characters is of questionable value because the answers are most predetermined. Basically this poll tells us it's the Dylan and Ellie show, and then everyone else.

However there is one interesting tidbit I'd like to focus on. No one cares about the old men. Years after their introduction and immediately after their biggest update ever, they rank low on the list of popular characters. They're a waste of time and need to be cut immediately.

I doubt it will happen.Liam barely have some fans and is still in the game.The old guys literally killing him.

 

[Old Dog]

I think I've said it before, but one of the tasks should be to watch naked/masturbating men or two or more fucking.
There would be a red line that Sophia would have to cross, the point at which Sophia recognizes the new situation.

My precious is now at number 6 with 86 votes

 

[AchedCroissant]

My precious is now at number 6 with 86 votes

And Ellie?

 

[Old Dog]

And Ellie?

Ellie 211 votes(2nd)

 

[AchedCroissant]

Dylan 227 votes
Ellie 211 votes

I'm tired of this world and people

 

[Dan5k74]

If it's true that "A coincidence is just a coincidence, two coincidences are a clue, three coincidences are a proof," since the Parkers came to town, San Alejo has become the new Sin City! Not bad for a little family that just moved from a sleepy, cold, small East Coast town.... Unless we're talking about Salem!

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

I'm actually pleased that Ava and her kids didn't rank higher. That said, I'm shocked Patricia and Alyssa don't have more votes.

 

[Scarlet56]

It will go so far until she has to do it voluntarily! I have mentioned it before. At some point there will come a task that makes it unbelievable to be the protector of Dylan! No mother does that for her son! It becomes unbelievable. So there will be no more blackmailing! She will do it voluntarily! And she will be all horny for the upcoming tasks! At the end she becomes Aiden's bitch.

If you read correctly, and I have no doubt, it's not about protecting Dylan anymore.
Sophia does it, now that she has seen what her son is capable of, so that he doesn't break Aiden's face.
I think we are entering the shift, Sophia no longer does it out of blackmail but out of necessity.
And maybe after, it will continue to: accomplish the tasks voluntarily. We'll see.
I'm not validating, Sophia becomes Aiden's bitch. I am only exposing one possibility.

 

[magaclaawe]

I think Dylan deserves finally a blowjob or something in the next update.

 

[Scarlet56]

I think Dylan deserves finally a blowjob or something in the next update.

There is no event with Dylan in the next update it seems to me.
Sorry, you mean : in future update with him, maybe ?

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

There are only two possibilities if Sophia continues with the blackmail. Either she needs to submit fully to it, or she needs to voluntarily enjoy it. The excuse that she's doing it for Dylan is already flimsy and will only look worse as we go forward. Either she submits and gives up her independence and sense of self worth, or she decides that it's fun and volunteers to debase herself.

Both options are fraught and controversial, but this limbo we're in needs to end.

 

[Bane71]

There is no event with Dylan in the next update it seems to me.
Sorry, you mean : in future update with him, maybe ?

Dylan has several events the next day. Blowjob will not be superfluous.

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

Polls like this make me roll my eyes because I don't understand the goal. It feels like confirmation bias and the worst kind of popularity contest. Polls should ask a less open-ended question and be utilized to make (minor) decisions for upcoming releases. Using it to gauge the popularity of characters is of questionable value because the answers are most predetermined. Basically this poll tells us it's the Dylan and Ellie show, and then everyone else.

in my opinion it is just a way to distract users from the real problems of the game;
do users think that maybe voting for their favorite L&P changes history? or introduce related scenes?
I do not think so

then just happen, the survey comes out at the end of the month .....

 

[ancienregimele]

There are only two possibilities if Sophia continues with the blackmail. Either she needs to submit fully to it, or she needs to voluntarily enjoy it. The excuse that she's doing it for Dylan is already flimsy and will only look worse as we go forward. Either she submits and gives up her independence and sense of self worth, or she decides that it's fun and volunteers to debase herself.

Both options are fraught and controversial, but this limbo we're in needs to end.

Agreed, up to a point. It's time to go vanilla or go the genuine article. Incest is controversial, swinging is, shota is.... but it's always blackmail that has doubt hanging over it. Yet, I seem to remember an AWAM sexiest renders contest, where Sophia showing her panties proved very popular. IMO the blackmail is as essential as lesbianism or incest to this VN. Better still, Aiden needs to equip himself with more material for blackmail, or alternatively he can go & make daisy chains with Sophia & they can run down a hillside laughing.... I'm ready for controversy but not continuous doubt.

 

[Lederzar]

Very interesting numbers from the poll, Dylan 227 votes and Ellie 211 votes (at the moment), if on playable day 13 Dylan did not receive at least a handjob from Sophia and Ellie does not suck mommy's nipples, L&P didn’t catch the message and we must start a revolution
Special mention for the 10 patreons who voted for Liam. It takes a lot of courage and a lot of raumatism in the balls to cast that vote

 

[Old Dog]

in my opinion it is just a way to distract users from the real problems of the game;
do users think that maybe voting for their favorite L&P changes history? or introduce related scenes?
I do not think so

The poll could have an effect on the game as the dev will see what stories his patrons are most happy with and maybe tailor his game towards this.He has already said that he will not spend so much time on the GW route because people are not interested in it at the moment.
So it could influence the game into certain changes but all this is just guess work and I guess we may find out if it is true or not in the coming months

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

in my opinion it is just a way to distract users from the real problems of the game;
do users think that maybe voting for their favorite L&P changes history? or introduce related scenes?
I do not think so

then just happen, the survey comes out at the end of the month .....

To be clear, I like polls and think they're a great way to engage your members. When I had a Patreon it was really useful for keeping people interested in your content. But you also have to be smart about them. In a poll like this, you almost need to remove Dylan and Ellie because they warp the results. Since you know they're popular what you're really asking is "Which secondary character do you like best?". That could be useful information.

 

[Sabertooth__]

What's the problem if you can stop the blackmail in a future update ? Just don't continue that path if you don't like it, others enjoy it

It's not about continuing or not. It is the in game logic and motivation. At present also we have the choice but Sophia is doing the task under Aiden's pressure not willingly or happily, L&P is planning to make it so that Sophia does it willingly. That is what I don't like

 

[xxxorro]

Given the new information on Aiden's fourth assignment for Sofia from L&P:

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The 3rd task was the last "forceful" to keep Dylan. The 4th task will be optional. But only if you did the right decisions before. And Sophia will also need to think about the decision carefully.

There are only two possibilities if Sophia continues with the blackmail. Either she needs to submit fully to it, or she needs to voluntarily enjoy it. The excuse that she's doing it for Dylan is already flimsy and will only look worse as we go forward. Either she submits and gives up her independence and sense of self worth, or she decides that it's fun and volunteers to debase herself.

Both options are fraught and controversial, but this limbo we're in needs to end.

It also depends on what "optional" means, because there could be 2 possibilities:

1. the 4th task is not a choice at all, Sophia did all the things that needed to be done and gets the comfortable solution (e.g. from Morello) and the task is not even proposed, Aiden is "taken care of" (and goes "sleep with the fishes" )
2. there is actually a choice whether to go on with the extortion or choose the comfortable solution. In that case it becomes interesting the rationale that is given to choose to continue the extortion rather than the "easy" solution.
   Unless the comfortable solution comes with some "strings attached" (e.g. another visit to Larry or something else, always if the solution is given by Don Morello), and in that case she has to choose between the lesser of the two evils, and that would be simpler to be rationalized. But we go from one extortion to another

 

[Old Dog]

It's not about continuing or not. It is the in game logic and motivation. At present also we have the choice but Sophia is doing the task under Aiden's pressure not willingly or happily, L&P is planning to make it so that Sophia does it willingly. That is what I don't like

Alyssa is tied to the Aiden route and maybe Zac as well, so dropping the Aiden route and you will lose Alyssa and maybe Zac too