VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.220] [Lust & Passion]

[Alley_Cat]

I can say a lot of nonsense but not that far.

But Emily is man.

I more just find it interesting the gender politics that L&P is showing. That in her class there are twice as many boys as girls. That there is a non-incest male LI, but the female one so far appears to be only part of an FFM threesome. Both side jobs so far are focused on males. That of all the male characters in the game, none of them are gay, but almost all of the women are showing lesbian tendencies.

That the lesbian route is the only one required to play the Prison event, but it requires Sophia to flirt with a man.

Another reason I like Free Pass. The other dev (who is focused particularly on the writing side) is a woman.

 

[ashitanojoe]

The most unrealistic scene for me so far is Dylan beating a bum after two days of training, in front of the bum's friends and they walking out like they were scared of the little guy.

 

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[Dr.SigmundFap]

The most unrealistic scene for me so far is Dylan beating a bum after two days of training, in front of the bum's friends and they walking out like they were scared of the little guy.

What are you talking about? The Hyperbolic Time Chamber makes that scene as realistic as possible.....

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[Poser_Voyeur]

I more just find it interesting the gender politics that L&P is showing. That in her class there are twice as many boys as girls. That there is a non-incest male LI, but the female one so far appears to be only part of an FFM threesome. Both side jobs so far are focused on males. That of all the male characters in the game, none of them are gay, but almost all of the women are showing lesbian tendencies.

You say that as if it is a bad thing, but so far it is a good thing. Because L&P has done a bad job in the character development of the male LI's and I my opinion, has done better than most male developers in the character development of female LI's.

And most importantly - boobs!! L&P has given us 9 or 10 beautiful female actual / potential LI's, and the increased lesbian tendancies of the female LI's has given us the hottest scenes so far in game and the potential of yet more to come.

So I am thinking it is a good thing!

 

[Alley_Cat]

You say that as if it is a bad thing, but so far it is a good thing. Because L&P has done a bad job in the character development of the male LI's and I my opinion, has done better than most male developers in the character development of female LI's.

And most importantly - boobs!! L&P has given us 9 or 10 beautiful female actual / potential LI's, and the increased lesbian tendancies of the female LI's has given us the hottest scenes so far in game and the potential of yet more to come.

So I am thinking it is a good thing!

Not saying it's a good or a bad thing, only that it's a thing. But I do wonder at times if I'd be more interested in playing the Dylan route if say, it was Jennifer instigating the tasks instead of Aiden. Or if Zac or Larry were women.

Or if I'd be less interested in playing the Ellie route if there was a blackmail storyline required to play it.

 

[merin_aspic]

Slower and slower...

	Pct Complete	Factor	Pct of Update
Created Scenes	30%	55%	16.50%
Rendered Scenes	20%	30%	6.00%
Art edited with PS	10%	5%	0.50%
Programming & Translation	0%	10%	0.00%
Total Pct of Update Completed			23.00%
Start Date			7/5/2021
Current # Days of Production			27
Festival of Bullshit (excuses)			30
Estimated Completion Date			11/29/2021

You have to apply a logarithmic factor to that prediction, the speed of the update progression decreases with time. In math terms:

u=log(t)

du/dt=1/t

Where u means the speed of the update progression and t means time. So, when the time passes, the derivate of u (something like the acceleration) trends to 0.

Before December I don´t expect anything.

 

[ashitanojoe]

What are you talking about? The Hyperbolic Time Chamber makes that scene as realistic as possible.....

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I think the scene is realistic if we believe that is realistic. With faith everything is possible. Schwarzenegger could beat an entire army by himself in Commando, why Dylan can't beat and scare some bums?

 

[Talcum Powder]

You have to apply a logarithmic factor to that prediction, the speed of the update progression decreases with time. In math terms:

u=log(t)

du/dt=1/t

Where u means the speed of the update progression and t means time. So, when the time passes, the derivate of u (something like the acceleration) trends to 0.

Before December I don´t expect anything.

I hope you realize that I threw that together as part of the joke - it’s just a fun way (for me, anyway) to watch that projected release date slip farther and farther into the fututre. While end of November is definitely possible, I don’t think anyone here seriously expects anything other than a just-in-time-for-Christmas-ish release date, with early December being hopelessly optimistic .

 

[Alley_Cat]

The most unrealistic scene for me so far is Dylan beating a bum after two days of training, in front of the bum's friends and they walking out like they were scared of the little guy.

I might need to double-check, but I'm fairly sure one-on-one, Dylan took on Aiden easily enough. Aiden just has enforcers and a reputation to back him up. And I believe it's only one day of training with the Navy Seal.

 

[Old Dog]

I might need to double-check, but I'm fairly sure one-on-one, Dylan took on Aiden easily enough. Aiden just has enforcers and a reputation to back him up. And I believe it's only one day of training with the Navy Seal.

Dylan indeed did get the better of Aiden in a fight but Aiden's friends joined in and Dylan has never been bullied.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Dylan did indeed did get the better of Aiden in a fight but Aiden's friends joined in and Dylan has never been bullied.

One of the more interesting stories I've heard from friends was that of my 300 lb security guard friend being scared because the mother of one of his friends was throwing people easily twice her size (and she was only about 5'0") protecting her daughter.

And Dylan is willing to risk possible expulsion (since last I checked, many schools have zero tolerance for instigating violence), protecting randoms he doesn't even know. That willingness for violence so easily is scary.

 

[Sabertooth__]

The most unrealistic scene for me so far is Dylan beating a bum after two days of training, in front of the bum's friends and they walking out like they were scared of the little guy.

I don't consider that unrealistic because what Dylan did does not actually show he is good a martial arts. Let me explain.

First, Dylan caught the hobo off guard, naturally a huge advantage. Generally catching someone off guard is more than enough to win a fight.

Second, Dylan used a set of predetermined and practiced moves, does not show that he is actually a trained and good fighter ( at least not a trained martial artist ).

If Dylan's move was blocked and countered and if he was still able to counter back and win the fight then you could say that it is unbelievable, because blocking and countering someone in an unexpected attack is what martial arts training actually helps with and that's what requires actual skill

Thirdly as far as I remember he hit him on his nose which is a very weak spot, even the strongest men would feel weak after a good hit there.

 

[Alley_Cat]

I don't consider that unrealistic because what Dylan did does not actually show he is good a martial arts. Let me explain.

First, Dylan caught the hobo off guard, naturally a huge advantage. Generally catching someone off guard is more than enough to win a fight.

Second, Dylan used a set of predetermined and practiced moves, does not show that he is actually a trained and good fighter ( at least not a trained martial artist ).

If Dylan's move was blocked and countered and if he was still able to counter back and win the fight then you could say that it is unbelievable, because blocking and countering someone in an unexpected attack is what martial arts training actually helps with and that's what requires actual skill

Thirdly as far as I remember he hit him on his nose which is a very weak spot, even the strongest men would feel weak after a good hit there.

As someone trained in martial arts, depending on where you hit the nose, it can be a one-shot kill. Which is why martial arts training can be a double-edged sword. And why applying the martial arts training is a Bad Idea.

 

[Sabertooth__]

As someone trained in martial arts, depending on where you hit the nose, it can be a one-shot kill. Which is why martial arts training can be a double-edged sword. And why applying the martial arts training is a Bad Idea.

That's why they repeatedly tell you to use it only in self defense, but Dylan boy has still not learnt that part.

The only actual martial arts knowledge he used in the fight ( or I should say a clever move ) was to start with the feet, generally a person expects a fist and an attack on the upper body, Dylan went for the shin and that's where he caught him off guard. From there as I said, It was just predetermined moves, without any knowledge as to how much they can damage the other person.

 

[DIRTY FILTHY Animal]

I don't consider that unrealistic because what Dylan did does not actually show he is good a martial arts. Let me explain.

First, Dylan caught the hobo off guard, naturally a huge advantage. Generally catching someone off guard is more than enough to win a fight.

Second, Dylan used a set of predetermined and practiced moves, does not show that he is actually a trained and good fighter ( at least not a trained martial artist ).

If Dylan's move was blocked and countered and if he was still able to counter back and win the fight then you could say that it is unbelievable, because blocking and countering someone in an unexpected attack is what martial arts training actually helps with and that's what requires actual skill

Thirdly as far as I remember he hit him on his nose which is a very weak spot, even the strongest men would feel weak after a good hit there.

You also forgot to mention the hobo was drunk, drunk people can’t fight for shit, you have no balance or hand eye coordination, I should know I’ve had beer muscles i my younger days before and tried to take on a bouncer. Also fought somebody that was hammered & they take one big swing and miss and fall down

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

You also forgot to mention the hobo was drunk, drunk people can’t fight for shit, you have no balance or hand eye coordination, I should know I’ve had beer muscles i my younger days before and tried to take on a bouncer. Also fought somebody that was hammered & they take one big swing and miss and fall down

Not only was he drunk, but he (presumably) was not in tip top shape to begin with. Dylan is a young, athletic, guy with an ounce of training who also had the advantage of surprise. So it's totally possible that he could score a knock out against a drunk, out of shape, untrained, middle-age man.

But besides all that, just roll with some things everyone. Of all the crazy things this game has given us, this is down there with Sophia's bag in terms of importance.

 

[Alley_Cat]

That's why they repeatedly tell you to use it only in self defense, but Dylan boy has still not learnt that part.

The only actual martial arts knowledge he used in the fight ( or I should say a clever move ) was to start with the feet, generally a person expects a fist and an attack on the upper body, Dylan went for the shin and that's where he caught him off guard. From there as I said, It was just predetermined moves, without any knowledge as to how much they can damage the other person.

That's part of why I find it so inconceivable that Sophia would be so nonchalant about Dylan getting into a fight. It was dumb to begin with. Yes, he was trying to protect some young uns, but that by no means it was his fight. Better to speak to an authority figure, or someone with connections like Carl (like Sophia eventually does), and get it sorted out that way.

 

[Old Dog]

It would seem that using the "Cumare"on Aiden will not end the Alyssa/Sophia route according to the dev.
Alyssa's storyline only ends if Dylan and Zac end up at the boarding school,so this is good news for me but also confusing as well.

 

[Adolfo]

A possible situation at the hairdresser event:
The judgment of Paris:

Paris = Dylan
Sophia = Aphrodite
Marie = Athene
Claire = Hera

Best choice: Sophia.
The other two women wouldn't be pissed off if Dylan chooses his mother. Possible end of the Marie Route for Dylan.

Best choice for Dylan: Marie.
The other two women (mothers) would not be very offended and would understand that he chooses Marie. Safe end of the Sophia route for Dylan.

Worst choice: Claire.
Marie would be pissed off because Dylan prefers her mother to her. Possible end of the Sophia Route and safe end of the Marie Route for Dylan.

I don't know if it is the best choice. Hera helps her devotees a lot, but she is extremely resentful towards those who challenge her (Paris lost her family and her city).