Alley_Cat

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I meant from main characters as there is not that much character development with these guys or interaction as it is with Sam
A male character with age in between 21 -22 with much interaction with Sophia could have been a great storyline
Why would there be? The main LIs in this game for Sophia are Dylan, Sam, Ellie and Patricia.
 

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I meant from main characters as there is not that much character development with these guys or interaction as it is with Sam
A male character with age in between 21 -22 with much interaction with Sophia could have been a great storyline
I understand you, but the older guys, not being the main characters, will still interact with Sofia. But their role is not so great, I agree with this, but the choice of the author suits me quite well.
 
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How would this game AWAM end? What would be the end scenario of this game?
Dylan, with his huge erection, penetrating his own mother, OR, Sophia becomes Principal, Liam is CEO, able to delegate & spend more time with his wife & family, (as well as reading the latest edition of "The Joy of Sex"), Ellie gets happily married to a man or woman & Dylan signs a deal as a professional football (soccer) player with a famous club. They all live happily ever after.
 

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Dylan, with his huge erection, penetrating his own mother, OR, Sophia becomes Principal, Liam is CEO, able to delegate & spend more time with his wife & family, (as well as reading the latest edition of "The Joy of Sex"), Ellie gets happily married to a man or woman & Dylan signs a deal as a professional football (soccer) player with a famous club. They all live happily ever after.
Principal Johnson gets fired for incompetence? With a flamethrower?
 
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Friends, I understand that it wasn't just me who was stressed out by the concert in the biker bar. But I still understand that we hardly need to worry so much, I think everything will be quite realistic and not critical.
I dare to hope that L&P will not disappoint us.

I'm thinking about this, Sam has seen Sofia from various angles until tonight:
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All this is a very sexy and quite frank spectacle!
He also received a gentle kiss on the cheek!
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After all, L&P can't take a step back, especially on such an important evening for Sam?

I believe that no matter how the concert in the biker bar went, later Sam will get Sofia's bare breasts, probably a kiss on the lips and even maybe he will feel her groin area.
 

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Why would there be? The main LIs in this game for Sophia are Dylan, Sam, Ellie and Patricia.
Well I was presenting different scenarios this game could have taken I completely respect developer's visions
Just curious what more way could have been implemented
 

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Friends, I understand that it wasn't just me who was stressed out by the concert in the biker bar. But I still understand that we hardly need to worry so much, I think everything will be quite realistic and not critical.
I dare to hope that L&P will not disappoint us.

I'm thinking about this, Sam has seen Sofia from various angles until tonight:
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All this is a very sexy and quite frank spectacle!
He also received a gentle kiss on the cheek!
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After all, L&P can't take a step back, especially on such an important evening for Sam?

I believe that no matter how the concert in the biker bar went, later Sam will get Sofia's bare breasts, probably a kiss on the lips and even maybe he will feel her groin area.
No WAY
 

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Sorry for my naïveté and lack of RL experience in biker bars &C, what are the policy (in the US) for underage people (<21) for places like that where, I guess, they serve alcohol? Because if we really want to nitpick about realism that could be another problem. There are discordant opinions about the character ages, but for sure they are < 21 (not to start this argument again! :) )

Also, the sun is still up in the sky, as you can see from the previous teaser and from the piece of sky in the up right corner of this one (and the facades of the buildings in front). How is then possible that close to the bar you can already clearly see the light of the lamps and the car like it's dark already? Is it the shadow projected by the 3000m mountain of the airport? :unsure::)

Sorry for these stupid observations, the second one is really sarcastic. It is just that sometimes I feel that we get too excited (me first), one way or another (more often negative), and we jump to the conclusion "everything is gonna suck", "where is the realism" etc. I love to speculate and hear yours but I think we should **judge** once we see the whole thing, whenever it will be (or at least wait to have more context). And sorry for this mini-rant, probably is the lack of coffee. ;)

Speculation-wise, [crazy idea ahead] I'd would not cross the beach option yet. For sure it is not a beach bar, but looking at the surroundings and in particular that piece of sky on the top right and the buildings that suddenly stop, it gives (to me) the impression of open space from there on like we could be close to the beach (i.e. at walking distance). To be clear, i'm not pushing for the beach, probably it's a bias of mine given by what we speculated before based on Sam dialogue. Again, I need a coffee asap ;)

Kudos to Apollodore for spotting the truck similar to the movers' and to Jude6 for spotting the resemblance!!! (reached the reaction limit...)
 
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Sorry for my naïveté and lack of RL experience in biker bars &C, but what are the policy (in the US) for underage people (<21) for places like that where, I guess, they serve alcohol? Because if we really want to nitpick about realism that could be another problem. There are issues with the character ages, but for sure they are < 21 (not to start this argument again! :) )

Also, the sun is still up in the sky, as you can see from the previous teaser and from the piece of sky in the up right corner of this one (and the facades of the buildings in front). How is then possible that close to the bar you can already clearly see the light of the lamps and the car like it's dark already? Is it the shadow projected by the 3000m mountain of the airport? :unsure::)

Sorry for these stupid observations, the second one is really sarcastic. It is just that sometimes I feel that we get too excited (me first), one way or another (more often negative), and we jump to the conclusion "everything is gonna suck", "where is the realism" etc. I love to speculate and hear yours but I think we should **judge** once we see the whole thing, whenever it will be (or at least wait to have more context). And sorry for this mini-rant, probably is the lack of coffee. ;)

Speculation-wise, [crazy idea ahead] I'd would not cross the beach option yet. For sure it is not a beach bar, but looking at the surroundings and in particular that piece of sky on the top right and the buildings that suddenly stop, it gives (to me) the impression of open space from there on like we could be close to the beach (i.e. at walking distance). To be clear, i'm not pushing for the beach, probably it's a bias of mine given by what we speculated before based on Sam dialogue. Again, I need a coffee asap ;)

Kudos to Apollodore for spotting the truck similar to the movers' and to Jude6 for spotting the resemblance!!! (reached the reaction limit...)
The normal procedure would be to let them in, but card them at the bar. Same as Ellie in the nightclub. She was allowed in, but not allowed to drink.

Whether management at a biker bar cares enough to enforce this is another matter entirely. If this is a front for say a Mob money-laundering racket, then someone has likely paid off the police to not search the place, for crimes more serious than serving someone underage booze.
 

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It is just that sometimes I feel that we get too excited (me first), one way or another (more often negative), and we jump to the conclusion "everything is gonna suck", "where is the realism" etc. I love to speculate and hear yours but I think we should **judge** once we see the whole thing, whenever it will be (or at least wait to have more context). And sorry for this mini-rant, probably is the lack of coffee.
This is why I hope I'm as wrong about developments as I've ever been in relation to how things look so far. If L&P follows his usual practice of providing spoilers which don't really give away the intended plotline, this event might be better than it looks right now. (Whatever happens, I'll always feel the same about the outfit). We've seen him pull off some great "sleight of hand" tricks in the past & he may be able to do it again.
 

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Difference between a dive bar and a BIKER bar. Dive bar has cheap drinks and everything else is cheap. So easy to see them spring $$$ for a garage band. The clientele are mixed and just there to drown their sorrows. Biker bar it is all about the security that what happens there is secure from the authorities. In a previous life I had buddies that used to frequent real biker bars just to get in fights. They went in with a whole plan including the egress when the police showed up. And they would plan this before they got drunk. Go figure. So all sorts of illegal happens there.

This would so totally fail the realism if it is a real biker bar. Now the wanna be bar or a different bar he has not yet revealed could work. I hope for those.
This is fair. I'm looking at this bar as a dive bar, not biker bar. But you're right, if it's a true biker bar then I wouldn't be comfortable there. I guess I have to assume it's a dive bar because they hired the kids to play. And while even a dive bar wouldn't hire these kids, it's even less likely that a biker bar would.

More than likely this illustrates a cultural disconnect by L&P, and it's easy to see how it happens. There are countless nuances to every aspect of culture, and I can see a German not understanding exactly what a biker bar is. I can see L&P wanting a rough bar based upon what he's seen on TV, without realizing the bar he picked is a biker bar and that:

A) They're not a typical bar
B) No one like Sophia would go to one
C) it's incomprehensible that such a bar would hire a high school garage band.

I'm not wagging my finger at L&P, it's just interesting. These details are easy to miss when you're writing a story for an audience outside of your native culture. If I were writing a story based in Germany I would have the characters eat nothing but Schnitzel and drink and wear lederhosen. And I would be rightfully snickered at.
 
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This is fair. I'm looking at this bar as a dive bar, not biker bar. But you're right, if it's a true biker bar then I wouldn't be comfortable there. I guess I have to assume it's a dive bar because they hired the kids to play. And while even a dive bar wouldn't hire these kids, it's even less likely that a biker bar would.

More thank likely this illustrates a cultural disconnect by L&P, and it's easy to see how it happens. There are countless nuances to every aspect of culture, and I can see a German not understanding exactly what a biker bar is. I can see L&P wanting a rough bar based upon what he's seen on TV, without realizing the bar he picked is a biker bar and that:

A) They're not a typical bar
B) No one like Sophia would go to one
C) it's incomprehensible that such a bar would hire a high school garage band.

I'm not wagging my finger at L&P, it's just interesting. These details are easy to miss when you're writing a story for an audience outside of your native culture. If I were writing a story based in Germany I would have the characters eat nothing but Schnitzel and drink and wear lederhosen. And I would be rightfully snickered at.
you forgot the Pomme Frits
 

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Sorry for my naïveté and lack of RL experience in biker bars &C, what are the policy (in the US) for underage people (<21) for places like that where, I guess, they serve alcohol? Because if we really want to nitpick about realism that could be another problem. There are discordant opinions about the character ages, but for sure they are < 21 (not to start this argument again! :) )

Also, the sun is still up in the sky, as you can see from the previous teaser and from the piece of sky in the up right corner of this one (and the facades of the buildings in front). How is then possible that close to the bar you can already clearly see the light of the lamps and the car like it's dark already? Is it the shadow projected by the 3000m mountain of the airport? :unsure::)

Sorry for these stupid observations, the second one is really sarcastic. It is just that sometimes I feel that we get too excited (me first), one way or another (more often negative), and we jump to the conclusion "everything is gonna suck", "where is the realism" etc. I love to speculate and hear yours but I think we should **judge** once we see the whole thing, whenever it will be (or at least wait to have more context). And sorry for this mini-rant, probably is the lack of coffee. ;)

Speculation-wise, [crazy idea ahead] I'd would not cross the beach option yet. For sure it is not a beach bar, but looking at the surroundings and in particular that piece of sky on the top right and the buildings that suddenly stop, it gives (to me) the impression of open space from there on like we could be close to the beach (i.e. at walking distance). To be clear, i'm not pushing for the beach, probably it's a bias of mine given by what we speculated before based on Sam dialogue. Again, I need a coffee asap ;)

Kudos to Apollodore for spotting the truck similar to the movers' and to Jude6 for spotting the resemblance!!! (reached the reaction limit...)
Depends on the state. Some states 21 or older where alcohol is served or you can lose your license. Others you just need to check the people that are buying, drinking. Once again can lose your license. So most places enforce that strictly and boot patrons that try to violate it.
 
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This is why I hope I'm as wrong about developments as I've ever been in relation to how things look so far. If L&P follows his usual practice of providing spoilers which don't really give away the intended plotline, this event might be better than it looks right now. (Whatever happens, I'll always feel the same about the outfit). We've seen him pull off some great "sleight of hand" tricks in the past & he may be able to do it again.
As I said earlier. This may be one of many bars in the area and Sam's bar is not yet visible. It is merely the closest parking.
 
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