VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.220] [Lust & Passion]

[Alley_Cat]

Last time was when you have to choose between a)spend time with Alyssa and b)relax by the pool with Ellie and Julia. Do you remember the date that happened?

The previous day, playable day 11. Doing the Ellie event, she specifically mentions she thinks it unfair Juls got to play with her boobs and not her. And Ellie did, during the morning update of this playable day.

 

[Bane71]

If we ever get to the point where Dylan's cuckold path really starts we may see some of that here. IIRC when L&P was writing the story, he didn't know the difference between NTR and cuckold, so there may be elements of NTR in the Dylan route.

Excuse me, could you explain the difference to me? I will be very grateful.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Excuse me, could you explain the difference to me? I will be very grateful.

Since I don't particularly know the difference either, unfortunately no. It doesn't tend to come up in the games I play. From what I've noticed, it's one of those things where everyone has their own understanding of what it is anyway.

We'll just have to see which one applies to this game.

 

[Sabertooth__]

Excuse me, could you explain the difference to me? I will be very grateful.

NTR or Netorare is generally used to define the situation when the female partner cheats on her male partner with a third person. Generally it is against the will of the female partner who initially hates it but eventually starts liking it. Here the male might not know about the affair.

In cuckolding it is basically fucking someone else right infront of your husband or bf and denying them the sexual pleasure. The man in this situation has more or less surrendered to the will of his wife/gf which is generally not the case with NTR. So NTR is basically associated with stealing the significant other while Cuckold is not

 

[DIRTY FILTHY Animal]

Plenty of space inside the tree house, I expect a couch inside
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If the boards are creaking
Sophia’s pussy is leaking
While the Cuck Liam is peeking
If Ellie see’s, she’ll be shrieking

 

[Bane71]

NTR or Netorare is generally used to define the situation when the female partner cheats on her male partner with a third person. Generally it is against the will of the female partner who initially hates it but eventually starts liking it. Here the male might not know about the affair.

In cuckolding it is basically fucking someone else right infront of your husband or bf and denying them the sexual pleasure. The man in this situation has more or less surrendered to the will of his wife/gf which is generally not the case with NTR. So NTR is basically associated with stealing the significant other while Cuckold is not

Thanks, now I can tell the difference.

 

[Alley_Cat]

NTR or Netorare is generally used to define the situation when the female partner cheats on her male partner with a third person. Generally it is against the will of the female partner who initially hates it but eventually starts liking it. Here the male might not know about the affair.

In cuckolding it is basically fucking someone else right infront of your husband or bf and denying them the sexual pleasure. The man in this situation has more or less surrendered to the will of his wife/gf which is generally not the case with NTR. So NTR is basically associated with stealing the significant other while Cuckold is not

So by this definition Aiden's tasks could be considered NTR (especially since Liam is kept unaware), but cuckolding would be something more like Dylan getting off on watching Sophia and Liam (or someone else) fuck?

 

[lockerxx]

by the way if Day 13 is like this where will L&P do the cut?

morning and noon part 1
Afternoon part 2
evening part 3
now i notice we got 2 Sophie/Dylan events and 2 Dylan/Ellie

 

[bayrischman]

You should of been a politician for the amount of crap you spout
Where do you get your so called facts from? Because they are total rubbish

let,s talk about it again in 2,5 months.

 

[Arysu]

I'm the only one who likes the way of Dylan cukold
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Bro can you tell me, how to get that scene?

 

[Old Dog]

Bro can you tell me, how to get that scene?

You need to send Dylan away to boarding school

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

No, no cuckold points for Liam. Sophia only has to believe for a few seconds that Liam had caught her with Sam. So far, many have assumed that a call from Liam would interrupt the scene, so no one accepted Liam would now collect cuckold points.
In order for Dylan Cuckold to collect points he would have to see what Sophia and Sam are doing and I think this step would be too big for Dylan at the moment. In addition, it would make a possible romantic route for Sophia / Dylan quite difficult if Dylan now becomes jealous of Sam again and reacts like a spoiled little boy.
But, I admit, my reasoning is just as conclusive and inconclusive as your reasoning is to me.

What makes you think he won't step in or see it from his window? If what is being speculated is to be true about Dylan seeing Sopha/Sam from the window from the house, providing that you have enough Cuckold/NTR points and Sophia/Sam part is active, will L&P give you the choice of either have Dylan stay silent from and watch from a distance, or go down an interrupt them? That has been happening throughout the Cuckold/NTR choices with other scenes. In a realistic setting, people have walked in on or seen things from afar, putting them in an awarded moment. I'm sure it has happened to you a couple of times throughout your life. Also, Liam doesn't receive Cuckold/NTR points because it's not written into the novel. Now maybe down the road, L&P may change this thought.

L&P has said that he wrote Dylan's Cuckold/NTR because he wanted Dylan to have a "watching" fetish. And even though L&P removed "The Twist" from the novel, I'm sure certain elements are still in the novel. One example is Dylan wanted Sophia to feel sexy again. I think this is one of the reasons he wants to watch, so he can see it. To me, that should have gone to Liam on the Filthy Side.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

by the way if Day 13 is like this where will L&P do the cut?
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morning and noon part 1
Afternoon part 2
evening part 3
now i notice we got 2 Sophie/Dylan events and 2 Dylan/Ellie

If you look at it, I think the only thing he could remove or postpone is the 1st/2nd side job which is not highly likely.

Morning:
Aiden's 4th - 1st Solution/Continue Blackmail until the 2nd Solution
Don Morello - Possibly help with Aiden if this storyline is active with the casino debt.

Noon:
1st/2nd Side Job - I think this remains because L&P likes both stories
Dylan/Ellie - It appears this option could be tied into the evening event, and a choice may have to be made with either picking Sophia, Ellie, or Emma

Afternoon:
Sophia/Sam - LI route, One of the Main Plots of the Novel
Sophia/Claire/Marie (with Dylan) - Sophia or Dylan has a connection with Marie. Also, this may be a choice that the reader will choose that Sophia/Marie will move on with Dylan.

Evening: I think this one speaks for itself - Main LI route here.

 

[Alley_Cat]

If you look at it, I think the only thing he could remove or postpone is the 1st/2nd side job which is not highly likely.

Morning:
Aiden's 4th - 1st Solution/Continue Blackmail until the 2nd Solution
Don Morello - Possibly help with Aiden if this storyline is active with the casino debt.

Noon:
1st/2nd Side Job - I think this remains because L&P likes both stories
Dylan/Ellie - It appears this option could be tied into the evening event, and a choice may have to be made with either picking Sophia, Ellie, or Emma

Afternoon:
Sophia/Sam - LI route, One of the Main Plots of the Novel
Sophia/Claire/Marie (with Dylan) - Sophia or Dylan has a connection with Marie. Also, this may be a choice that the reader will choose that Sophia/Marie will move on with Dylan.

Evening: I think this one speaks for itself - Main LI route here.

So 4 updates and 2 years to complete playable day 13?

 

[armion82]

by the way if Day 13 is like this where will L&P do the cut?
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morning and noon part 1
Afternoon part 2
evening part 3
now i notice we got 2 Sophie/Dylan events and 2 Dylan/Ellie

Part 1 sounds like way too bigger,not to mention more events than the part 2 and part 3 together.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

So 4 updates and 2 years to complete playable day 13?

Most likely... He started this P.D. on Oct. 7th, 2020, and look where we are at now with it. We're about to hit the one-year mark with this P.D, and the update is projected to be around Nov. to complete the P.D. But don't forget, we talked about this the last couple of years on this forum. It's possible that he may go to event base release or 1/4 day release so he can say people are getting updates quicker. I have no clue if he will do it or not, but it's an option.

But as it has been repeated time and time again, It's the CS/Rending, and the amount he needs to tell that story is the problem here and not having a concrete "script" as it appears to be changing constantly.

 

[Old Dog]

let,s talk about it again in 2,5 months.

I expect the update a round November/December.

 

[Lukasz1]

I already know why Sam drives such a crash.
Neil tried to sell it.

 

[bayrischman]

Most likely... But don't forget, we talked about this the last couple of years on this forum. It's possible that he may go to event base release or 1/4 day release so he can say people are getting updates quicker. I have no clue if he will do it or not, but it's an option.

But as it has been repeated time and time, It's the CS/Rending, and the amount he needs to tell that story is the problem here and not having a concrete "script" as it appears to be changing constantly.

I expect the update a round November/December.

I expect the update a round November/December.

killjoys it seems that alley-cat is also of the opinion that i need the update for day 13 in 4 parts 2 years, so don,t seem to br alone i my opinion.

 

[hzjujk]

What makes you think he won't step in or see it from his window? If what is being speculated is to be true about Dylan seeing Sopha/Sam from the window from the house, providing that you have enough Cuckold/NTR points and Sophia/Sam part is active, will L&P give you the choice of either have Dylan stay silent from and watch from a distance, or go down an interrupt them? That has been happening throughout the Cuckold/NTR choices with other scenes. In a realistic setting, people have walked in on or seen things from afar, putting them in an awarded moment. I'm sure it has happened to you a couple of times throughout your life. Also, Liam doesn't receive Cuckold/NTR points because it's not written into the novel. Now maybe down the road, L&P may change this thought.

L&P has said that he wrote Dylan's Cuckold/NTR because he wanted Dylan to have a "watching" fetish. And even though L&P removed "The Twist" from the novel, I'm sure certain elements are still in the novel. One example is Dylan wanted Sophia to feel sexy again. I think this is one of the reasons he wants to watch, so he can see it. To me, that should have gone to Liam on the Filthy Side.

It's good to have different opinions. Let's wait and see!